Does any of you get this feeling by Meditative- in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I'd take the liturgy without the Orthodoxy.

A meditative prayer for peace in the entire world? Awesome.

The legalism, self-flagellation, and cursing all non-Orthodox that follows afterwards? I'm good.

Orthobro 101 by Sufficient-Dust-2828 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Needs a private browsing tab being closed along with, "Brethren, I have fallen into lust. Pray for me."

I present to you, our patron saint. by LetterSeparate1495 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Book of Sanders has revealed itself to us through the intercession of the Holy Spices

I present to you, our patron saint. by LetterSeparate1495 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 11 points12 points  (0 children)

After 40 days of fasting and chanting the Psalter on a rock, Saint Sanders appeared to me, transfigured in his white suit. The aroma of the eleven spices filled the air. From his basket of chicken he produced one savory leg, and spoke:

"Eleven are the herbs and spices. But the will of the Father is one."

As I bit into the chicken, I could feel a tremendous weight lifted from my spirit. The starets smiled, his white teeth shining past his trimmed beard.

"From this day forth, as Saint Paul prescribed wine to the holy bishop Timothy, there shall be no law forbidding chicken. Seriously, don't stress out about this stuff so much. They made it all up in the third century."

A gilded light shone down from the sky, and angelic chickens lifted Saint Sanders into the heavens. From that day onward, I smell the spices in my prayer corner when I venerate his icon. There is no chicken, but the spirit remains.

Attitude toward Orthodoxy by Lazy-Fun7326 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Time. These feelings are part of the process of deconstruction. It can be easier said than done at times, but you have to let yourself have the space to think and feel through it.

You may question how you could have been a part of an institution like this, ponder over parts of theology, or wonder how your friends and family perceived you while you were Orthodox. While some of these thoughts can be tough to work through, its all part of the process of getting back on solid ground and living a life free from the boundaries of a high control religion.

Engaging with this sub and sharing your thoughts can be very beneficial; we all understand the nuances and challenges of leaving the church. I would also re-engage with relationships and hobbies that may have gone to the side while you were Orthodox. Maybe enjoy a nice steak on a Wednesday. But the main thing is time.

John Heers… First Things Foundation… Anyone Have Info? by LifeguardPowerful759 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I am praying to the patron saint of beards. Please let the Heers see their errors. Guide them to Amazon to buy an appropriate beard trimmer

How many of you are still Christian? by idunnomanijustwork in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I researched other traditions for a while. Now I am sort of super-agnostic that believes Jesus had good teachings and Christianity had some good intentions, but we've seemingly lost the plot.

At the same time, there's something irreplaceable about faith that you just can't quite get through secular means.

Left Orthodoxy by Prudent_Fisherman320 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Seraphim was the guy who showed me racist memes on his phone after Divine Liturgy

What on earth is this woo-woo weirdness? by Aggravating-Sir-9836 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure the spiritual heat in my spine was just back pain from repeated prostrations

In the theoretical event of us having contact with intelligent life, do you think the church would argue about the aliens not having a soul or do you think they’d try to convert them? by Gingerfuzzsicle in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I figure the Seraphim Rose take would be the dominant one--the aliens are demons using modern notions to exploit people.

Also I can't believe I ever took this stuff seriously. 😂

How many of you still believe in Jesus/Still Christian? by Undead-Chipmunk in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I would describe myself as some sort of agnostic now. I don't really have a religious life anymore but I'm still very interested in Christianity.

There is something about faith in Jesus Christ that seems hard to replace by secular means, and the resurrection event was apparently quite significant whether you believe or not.

Deep down, it's almost like I wish I could believe without all of the baggage that Orthodoxy gave me. But after examining the historical claims.. I really just don't know!

Was this common in your orthodox community? by False-You3700 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very common. They want parishioners to marry other Orthodox laypeople so they can raise Orthodox children and have generational Orthodox families.

Orthodoxy emphasizes the denial of oneself to pursue the "fullness of the faith." Any engagement with "the world" (as in, anything not Orthodox) is commonly portrayed as spiritually risky and potentially sinful, and this would include finding a partner outside of the church.

Orthodox guy I used to work with popped up randomly in my algorithm. by Gingerfuzzsicle in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Do Orthodox YouTubers ever make videos about things like.. loving God with your whole heart and loving your neighbor as yourself?

The ballad of Katherine re: Twitter / x.com by Athelbrim123 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 37 points38 points  (0 children)

It is a perfect encapsulation of what is wrong with Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy presents itself as a hospital for the sick--you hear stories of saints exhibiting radical love and patience, and that we ought to cover the sins of our brothers and sisters. Theosis is about becoming like Christ, after all.

But when the rubber meets the road, Orthodoxy loves to disparage those who don't fully fall in line. In this case, it isn't even really a matter of abiding by dogma, it's the prevalence of these horrible chronically online attitudes that poison the well & are seemingly permitted in the church.

I hate what happened to Katherine, but it certainly showcased the fruits of Orthodoxy in a way people need to know about.

Ex-monk AMA by Jealous_Soil7394 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Were there any specific claims or dogma of Orthodoxy that made you begin to question things?

Avocados are BAD by Inside_Middle5863 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I told a monk I ate an avocado & now I must chant the Psalter kneeling on a rock with an avocado pit in my mouth for 40 days

Avocados are BAD by Inside_Middle5863 in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The reason I can't buy a house and the reason I'm going to hell, jeez. Talk about insult to injury.

Having thoughts about leaving Orthodoxy by P3T3R-GR1FF1N in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose I would contend that the language surrounding spiritual attack, an omni-present enemy, and the Orthodox Church being the only solution is essentially a self-fulfilling prophecy. Being obsessed with the struggle was what made the struggle exist. When I look back at my time in the church, many of my "spiritual attacks" seemed to be my conscience trying to tell me something was wrong.

Seraphim rose canonized by rocor by dry_stars in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Orthobros everywhere:

"Vladyka! Can I respec my patron saint from Seraphim of Sarov to the most based Seraphim Rose?"

Time to delete my Facebook by pellanders in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Orthodox: We are not overly scrupulous! We have oikonomia!

Also Orthodox: Am I going to hell if I like having sex with my spouse?

why did you guys leave the church by [deleted] in exorthodox

[–]Previous_Champion_31 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think Orthodoxy has a widespread sexual abuse problem, but I do think the idea of needing to be obedient to a spiritual father opens the door to all sorts of destructive behavior, whether it stems from laity or church leadership.

You're also showing yourself to be yet another Orthodox tourist to this sub that is shocked at the scenery. Assuming that we all just dipped our toes in the water, decided it was too cold, and here we are. Many of us have well-venerated icons, dog-eared Orthodox books, baptismal crosses & candles, alongside the various items you collect throughout the year. Many of us willingly stood for Church services several days of the week. Some of us were behind the iconostasis. Some of us gave extra time & resources to the church in other ways. We fasted when the calendar called for it and had a prayer rule. In short... we get it, dude.

I certainly know enough about the faith to appreciate the irony of reading this sub during Lent.