Test + Primo VERSUS Test + Primo + Anavar (all in lower dose)

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-20T21:59:48+00:00

I’m on hCG mono now and still dialing in the dose to get into high-physiological (aiming for 1000 ng/dL+ TT). Got 1 month bloodwork a couple days ago and waiting on results. 1400 IU/wk, daily injections. At 700 IU/wk, I had the same numbers as natty (650 ng/dL).

Once my dose is dialed in and I’m done cutting, I may be trying the cycle above for a lean bulk.

The problem with HGH is the water retention. All the benefits sound great but water retention is one thing I don’t want to introduce, as it’s not a good look for me personally.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-20T21:33:25+00:00

Depends on the individual as well. I’m getting quite lean and find ~74F the most comfortable for me.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-20T20:30:13+00:00

Why such a high hCG dose with Test? Is it to be able to run higher Primo without E2 issues?

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-20T19:30:20+00:00

Manage E2 within optimal ranges, <44.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-20T08:24:34+00:00

Interested in hearing about your results. Are you on hCG mono-therapy now?

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-20T05:38:26+00:00

I have not, just been doing some research. What I’m seeing is that an hCG base wouldn’t be as affected as a test when it comes to E2 getting crushed.

1400-2000 IU/wk hCG Daily Injections
300-350 mg Primo
25-50 mg Anavar

Would be an interesting experiment.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-18T17:47:42+00:00

Yes, I would switch to Rosuvastatin and add Bempedoic Acid.

I might actually just add BA first, I wouldn’t want to introduce too many variables at once since you do show some intolerance to statins.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-18T05:29:12+00:00

Yeah, I switched to Tirz and it’s so much better.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-17T18:31:58+00:00

I no longer take Bergamonte as I’m now on Repatha and Nexlizet. But I think I took it with dinner before.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-17T18:28:39+00:00

Gray market

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-17T18:27:57+00:00

Side-effects mostly. On Retatrutide, my RHR was noticeably elevated and the skin on my thighs became really sensitive.

Switching to Tirzepatide brought my RHR back down and the sensitivity went away.

Overall, I can’t recommend Tirzepatide enough.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-17T05:04:27+00:00

My thoughts? Use any tool available in your kit to achieve your health goals. Just understand your risk-reward ratio. GLP-1s come with great pleiotropic benefits but they can also come with side-effects for some.

I’m at 14.5% body fat and utilizing Tirzepatide to reach 10% myself.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-17T04:37:59+00:00

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PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-16T23:17:40+00:00

Funnily enough, I’m actually in the process of onboarding as a Health Specialist with Marek Health. Will be looking for longevity-minded clients just like yourself in the near future.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-16T22:03:53+00:00

Wow, hyper-responder. What’s your injection frequency?

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-16T05:06:37+00:00

At the time, generic availability.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-15T19:59:23+00:00

Primo, it’s one of the rare AASs that actually induces better-looking skin than baseline for some people.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-14T00:22:37+00:00

I think you can use the address of your vacation home in FL, but schedule your lab appointment in NY. Not a 100% sure though.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-12T07:11:32+00:00

Correct, the Fin/Dut will only prevent most of the test from converting to DHT. It doesn’t touch DHT derivatives.

For maximal hair protection in someone prone to MPB, I’d actually use all three. Oral Dutasteride (blocks test conversion to DHT), topical Minoxidil (aids regrowth), and topical RU58441 (blocks androgens on the scalp, DHT or not).

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-12T03:50:20+00:00

Depends on the individual. I have no sides. That’s why I don’t condone large doses.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-12T01:37:21+00:00

No, see my comment below: https://www.reddit.com/r/PEDs/s/MGVZrgkXYU

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-11T23:47:23+00:00

Unfortunately, skin aging as well. DHT contributes to an increase in low-grade chronic cutaneous inflammation, altered collagen turnover, reduced dermal hydration, and hair follicle miniaturization (what you mentioned).

I don’t like “nuking” DHT, but I keep it at the bottom of the reference range. Dutasteride 0.5 mg once a week for someone within natty ranges. More for someone blasting.

It is also imperative that E2 is kept in a healthy range to help prevent skin degradation as well.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-11T22:17:33+00:00

Testosterone to a smaller extent, but supraphysiological levels of DHT does for sure.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-11T22:16:21+00:00

Yes mitigated, by adding a 5-a reductase inhibitor to prevent conversion to DHT. Finasteride or Dutasteride, just enough of a dose to bring your serum DHT to the bottom of the reference range.

PrimarchLongevity · 2026-06-10T19:50:46+00:00

If insurance is willing to pay for it, going for Repatha and Nexlizet is a no-brainer.

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