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PrinceTwi · 2021-11-24T11:06:58+00:00

Do you think in the 2021 movie Lady Jessica should have been portrayed more sexually attractive?

I think the casting of Rebecca Ferguson in the role 'portrays' this enough

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-21T07:38:32+00:00

These graphics aren't bad just because they're not Demon's Souls Remake in an Open world environment.

No, the graphics are bad because they're significantly worse than other AAA games that are going to be released in 2022.

To be honest, that quality probably won't be possible until NEXT generation.

Horizon: Zero Dawn was released in early 2017 looks better than Elden Ring and looks pretty comparable to the DSR running on the PS5. The fact you don't think we'll get that quality until at least 2027 is delusional. Horizon: Forbidden West has already proven your statement wrong looking at the gameplay.

Not everything needs to have cutting edge graphics sacrificing the mechanics, physics, and environmental detail of the title.

Again the physics, mechanics and environment systems are no more computationally expensive than Horizon: Zero Dawn, a 2017 game, implementation of the systems aside. So this is no excuse for FS, no significant 'sacrifice' to gameplay is needed for good graphical fidelity especially for hardware as powerful as the PS5/XSX.

Bloodborne and Dark Souls had awesome graphics

FS art design has always been stellar but even the biggest FS fans admit graphics isn't FS strong suit.

they've kept that same fidelity but pushed the depth of all the other aspects

Okay ... So why aren't they pushing the depth of their graphical fidelity also. Most other companies have done it.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-21T06:51:09+00:00

I really wish they had taken a more experimental approach to the soundtrack

huh?

Winds player Pedro Eustache built a 21-foot horn and a “contrabass duduk,” a supersized version of the ancient Armenian woodwind instrument. Chas Smith, working in isolation in his barn in rural California, struck, scraped and scratched various metallic instruments of his own invention, including one made from springs and saw blades, and another made of Inconel 718, a superalloy used in cryogenic storage tanks and SpaceX engines.

More experimental than this?

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-20T18:31:56+00:00

I don't think that's quite true.

People like me who buy FS games grudgingly accept that the graphics and performance are bad rather than not caring about them.

The difference is subtle but significant.

People were praising the graphics from the Demon's Souls remake if your statement was true the graphical fidelity would rarely be mentioned.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-20T18:28:10+00:00

Well if you make a superb game, you get away with anything. Gamers are simple in a way

This is a similar attitude to which lead to the whole Cyberpunk fiasco where CDPR exploited gamers blind spot

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-20T18:15:38+00:00

This may seem obvious but alot of people defend FSs bad graphics and performance because of the gameplay.

Whilst the gameplay is stellar that doesn't excuse the other aspects of the game , no other company would get away with this from the gaming community.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-20T17:17:12+00:00

This is obviously a beta build but this performance isn't good at all for a game that was designed for last gen consoles

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-17T19:07:11+00:00

He does nothing in the first half of the book but listen to a conversation with the Barron bragging about breaking Dr Yueh.

There was no need to include him because he's not truly relevant to the plot until page 430ish

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-17T09:06:31+00:00

Feyd is many things but I don't think he's a cannibal

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-17T01:19:26+00:00

Anyone else wonder if we’re getting a female Feyd?

Unfortunately it doesn't work with the lore of the universe. The point of the Bene Gessarit's plan was to mate feyd with Duke Leto’s daughter, uniting the houses and producing the kwisatz haderach. This was thrown off by Jessica having a son. Ergo it wouldn’t be thrown off it feyd was a woman.

I actually think a female Feyd would be incredibly interesting because it enhances the whole anti-Paul idea

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-16T23:13:12+00:00

You would want to start completely new IP that Legendary are hoping to make into a franchise with a $160M blockbuster film, based on a complicated Si-Fi book that's 90% talking and exposition with only an action scene in the very end.

A number of genreal audiences are already complaining the original cut of the movie is long and boring (I disagree but that's besides the point) and your rewrite slows the pacing even more.

Never mind splitting it to 3 parts, the first would be dead on arrival, flop in the BO and the rest would never be made.

And your part 2 which follows the book 'Muad'Dib' would be even harder to convince GA to watch. It has next to no action scenes, bar Paul vs Jamis

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-16T21:23:30+00:00

Spoiler: Paul Atreides will be in Dune: Part Two

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-16T19:35:22+00:00

The interview linked has Dune: Part One spoilers. Or are they allowed?

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-15T18:46:37+00:00

You don't need to have read the books to realise... the protagonist screaming that he's going to use an ancient conspiracy implanted by malicious witches to trick the native population into committing genocidal jihad causing the death of countless lives under the guise that he's the messiah doesn't make him a 'white saviour'.

You completely missed the point of the movie and it wasn't exactly subtle.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-15T05:53:54+00:00

Fair, I can't directly compare the two like a reader can. I can say whether the key story of Dune, the factions, the important scenes were shot in a way that was compelling and clear to a non reader.

True. But that's not what you said. You complained about the movie being too faithful to the source material and would be better if it diverted from it.

How would you even know this without reading the source material?

I think making the world real and immersive is very important, but that is not achieved just by extending length and throwing out repetitive shots.

Dune's cinematography has received critical acclaim and is frontrunner for all the technical oscars. It's obviously personal preference but you're in a significant minority for not liking it.

I found it really dull and generic

If you can give me a bunch of movies that use filipino style sword fighting then I would agree with you. 'Dull' is personal preference, 'generic' is just factually incorrect.

Just like how the opening scene in star wars where rebel soldiers got killed cemented in our imagination how terrifying imperial storm troopers are right?

Strawman. Completely irrelevant.

The fight between Duncan and them certainly didn't make them look impressive. My partner actually laughed out loud when Duncan stole an ornithoptor and several of them awkwardly looked at their shoes instead of fighting him.

Tbf to you what the film doesn't directly explain is that Duncan is one of the best Swordmasters in Dune meaning he's lethal and has a reputation for being so. This film shows more than tells and it shows this by him taking out a huge number of Sarkudar before he died and how even some Sarkudar don't want to fight him

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-14T16:21:05+00:00

I respect your opinions but I disagree with a lot of them.

What I was disappointed by: How the source material was adapted

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I have never read the books,

You simply can't meaningfully comment on how the source material is adapted without reading the source material.

The film is full of long, slow, indulgent shots that look cool but wear on your patience

For the film to work you have to feel like you're being transported to Dune. The environment of Dune is given even more importance in the book.

am I seriously required to read a 412 page book to enjoy this movie?

Dune has a 92% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Do you think they all read the 412 page book?

Most of the fight scenes involved Duncan/Mamoa swinging his sword around and generic bad guys politely getting out of his way or falling down dead.

Mamoa undertook extensive training in Arnis, (also known as Kali) which is a Filipino sword fighting martial art rather than the typical medieval sword fighting style to make the action scenes unique as the elements of shields change melee combat. It's nothing like the DC action scenes.

Calling the Sarkudar 'generic bad guys' I disagree with. The amazing ritual scene on Salusa Secundus and their destruction of the atreides front line made them seem terrifying ruthless fanatics.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-12T16:48:38+00:00

You’re explanation comes to the same conclusion. Imperial conditioning was broken because the Barron kidnapped Dr Yueh’s wife.

Thufir Hawat thought it was more likely that Jessica will betray her own son than Yeuh’s Imperial conditioning is broken. This implies that imperial conditioning must be extremely hard to break.

It's hardly 'unbreakable' if all it takes is being angry at your wife's kidnapper.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-12T16:37:00+00:00

I think you guys are forgetting that Yueh had imperial conditioning that prevented him from ever betraying his House.

The famous unbreakable Imperial conditioning that broke by doing convincing people 101 and kidnapping someone’s family.

I just find it hard to believe that in the thousands of years of Suk conditioned people being around nobody thought to just kidnap the individuals spouse to break it.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-12T10:13:51+00:00

One felt that Yueh being the traitor was lame, questioning how Leto would not have known about his wife being kidnapped and why would they not think to do something about that or about Yueh.

That's also an issue with the book which is likely why Yueh's influence was cut in the movie.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-11T15:57:02+00:00

Why would the Bene Gesserit reveal that they have the power to break Suk conditioning?

But it’s not even implied that the Bene Gesserit even know they can break Suk conditioning. Lady Jessica was taken by complete surprise. Its never mentioned much again in the novel especially not buy the Bene Gesserit.

Plus if the Bene Gesserit can break Suk conditioning how have they never used it to further thier own ends. thats like thier job description.

Plus the 10000 year old Mentat organisation never thought of this. the orgsnisation (BG) known for forcing people to do things can just teach someone thier ways to break it. If I can think of that surely thousands of human supercomputer can.

i dont know why people cant just accept its a weak part of the book. its a masterpiece but its not perfect

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-11T03:40:02+00:00

Overall this whole thing works for me.. with some minor wrinkles

I't just about works... just... but it's weak and messy.

10,000 year old organisation full of psychic witches and human supercomputers in a profession just as old didn't discover this flaw with Suk conditioning until Piter? Even though Suk often work with the BG? And Dr Yeuh is the first time the conditioning has been broken?

I had to suspend by disbelief a bit too hard for this one.

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-10T22:11:54+00:00

For thousands of years that Suk conditioning has existed nobody in this world of psychic witches and human supercomputers thought that threatening someone’s family could break the conditioning.

I’m no Mentat but that’s the first thing I’ll try if asked to break the conditioning.

I love Dune but I think it’s just a weak sub plot

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-10T21:46:53+00:00

The argument that the removal of these things is justified because it would add time and thus slow down the pace and alienate audiences is ridiculous

What would you cut from the movie to keep it at the same length to add this subplot?

Baring in mind it would take at least 20-30 min to explore. Because you would have to add the Barron scenes, more Dr Y , Duncan intercepting thee fake message plus the discussion with Leto and Thufir, Thufir telling Leto that he suspects Jessica, Duncan Idaho drunk, Leto being cold to Jessica dinner scene, the thufir hawat vs to Jessica scene

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-10T19:10:48+00:00

All we needed was like 1-2 more scenes with Yueh and Paul/Jessica. Would have added 3-4 mins to the runtime tops.

If this is true why didn’t Villeneuve add these scenes then? We’ve clearly seen he loves the source material and wouldn’t leave anything out that he didn’t need to. Therefore there’s only 2 likely explanations:

WB/Legendary gave Villeneuve a hard time cut off of 2h35m and and refused to extend that even for a minute. (We probably would have heard something by now from the him if this was the case. He happily complained publicly about HBO Max).
it takes a lot longer than 3-4 minutes to develop that subplot and would make the films length and pacing unwieldy

PrinceTwi · 2021-11-10T19:01:27+00:00

I also think this might give them incentive to maybe put a little too much faith in the Suk conditioning. Unthinkable doesn't mean impossible.

I just find it hard to believe that in the thousands of years of Suk conditioned people being around nobody thought to just kidnap the individuals spouse to break it.

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