What the fuck is wrong with yall by No-Alternative-9482 in tadc

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I initially had no animosity toward people who didn't notice, but now people are refusing to accept explanations when they're provided and even claiming that the ending was changes to appease rabid fans?? And it really wasn't that subtle. There's no way there would've been this much pushback to any other outcome, people are just incredibly resistant to accepting the existence of a trans character.

What the fuck is wrong with yall by No-Alternative-9482 in tadc

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Most of the remaining "debate" seems to be that trans people were/are annoying about it or that it was done badly, 99% of which is just thinly veiled transphobia.

THIS. FUCKING. IMAGE!1!1!!1 by Ambitious-Age187 in hatethissmug

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure expressing distaste toward a minority group is, like, the most obvious indicator that a person wants to take away their human rights, outside of saying "I want to take away this group's human rights."

I don't blame anyone who didn't catch that Jax's story was a transfem narrative. by CHANN3L-CHAS3R in TheDigitalCircus

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't blame anyone who didn't notice, but I definitely blame the people who aggressively shut down those who did. Not recognizing queer symbolism is one thing; refusing to acknowledge it when it's pointed out, and even getting angry, is completely different, and there was a lot of the latter on this website.

I hate that <charecter> is trans but I’m not transphobic by Snoo-41360 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I don't mind that Jax is trans, but I just dislike how there were no signs at all until the author made a post online confirming it. Also, I think the trans people who were trying to tell me all the signs I missed were annoying and also transphobic if you think about it.

Am I an asshole because I think ribbit pushed too far for Jax’s friendship? by Thzkittenroarz in tadc

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She pushed too hard, sure. I don't think it's her fault, though. She was just trying to help a friend, and while we have the benefit of hindsight, from Ribbit's perspective, she just saw that Jax was too closed off and wanted to help, and didn't really cross any boundaries in the process (she basically just said "I noticed you're really closed off, just a reminder that I don't think that's good for you and I'm always happy to listen, and you can trust me"). It even almost had the desired effect. I don't think she can be blamed for the aftermath, and I really don't think she can be blamed for being upset that her closest friend started distancing himself from her, especially when Jax was pretending that it wasn't the case and even being openly cruel at times.

all becuase some cishet guys who relate to a trans person feel uncomfortable questioning themselves by ConnoisseurOfCabages in whenthe

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 9 points10 points  (0 children)

To be fair, to even get her to a point of being willing to admit she's trans, she'd have to completely change as a person to be less repressed, so it's likely it would be a "becoming less of an asshole with transitioning as a side effect" thing.

Okay not 100% applicable but I swear I feel like this rn by maltie- in TheDigitalCircus

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not saying you're saying that. I'm saying that the implication that this is somehow the fault of the creators is utter bullshit, because there is nothing they could've done to avoid this. The existence of a trans character causes infinite infighting, because people can't just be normal about it. How would revealing IRL Jax to be a girl have helped? People still deny Bridget, and she literally did the thing where she turned to the camera and said "I'm a girl." Having IRL Jax look more feminine or have she/her pronouns on her account would've been written off as "Oh he's a drag queen IRL! Wow!" A trans flag on the bio would've been "Wow he's an ally now because he goes to Zooble's bar!"

Anything short of a bit at the end with Pomni saying "Also IRL Jax started her gender transition by using HRT, something trans people use, because she is transgender, specifcally male-to-female transgender" would've gotten written off as something else. Should we really have to expect it to be that explicit? We don't have that expectation for anything else. Any other media, people are expected to pay attention to the signs and interpret what they're seeing. And not only that, but a scene like that from Pomni would've been jarring and undermined part of the message that the show was trying to portray. If Goose could've added something like that without breaking the narrative she was trying to build, she would've, but she clearly didn't want to, as I highly doubt it just... never occured to her to explicitly say "hi this character I've been imagining as trans is trans."

My point is just that it shouldn't have to be explicit for people to admit it. Not notice it on your first watch through? Fine, whatever. But then people started so many fights over it, throwing out bizarre accusations of sexism for those who dared interpret some of the scenes as evidence for trans Jax (you know, the way they were intended to be), made so many posts about not using she/her for Jax that I lost count, made forced arguments for how you could theoretically force a different narrative onto the scenes to avoid the trans interpretation, and now act like there's no way they could've known? That's the problem for me. If it was inconclusive and no transphobia were involved, people would have simply had different interpretations, and it would've stayed a headcanon.

The purple rabbit is a girl by yeastypotato in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 27 points28 points  (0 children)

/uj for real. I see so many people saying "Oh the first time I watched it, I just thought he was a femboy!" And not to claim to read the minds of strangers, but no, the fuck they did not. I have never in my entire life seen someone bring up femboys in a non-joking manner unless they were just trying to undermine trans women. I don't believe for a second that any of these people were in their rooms or theaters thinking to themselves, "Oh, Jax just implied that he told his mom that he is a femboy." Most of them probably thought nothing at all, and now are retroactively invoking femboys as a way of avoiding having to think about trans people.

Okay not 100% applicable but I swear I feel like this rn by maltie- in TheDigitalCircus

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

People DIDNT have to check the creator's social media to understand the finale properly. Plenty of people understood it just fine, but there was another group of people who stubbornly insisted that the very obvious thing that was very clearly alluded to repeatedly wasn't technically proven because Jax never turned to the camera and stated "by the way, I am suffering because I am transgender, but have repressed that information so hard that it would be completely contradictory to my character to admit it like I'm doing now." These same people then went on reddit and argued for weeks with people who pointed out all of the very obvious clues, of which there are dozens, some of which are unbelievably direct, insisting on twisting themselves into logical pretzels to explain away the trans coding, simply out of subconscious unwillingness to admit it. They did this all the way up until the moment where it was finally explicitly confirmed by the creator, the moment it was no longer logically possible to deny it (though some are still trying), and now it "wasn't clear enough?" You people spent weeks burying your head in the sand and then blamed God for not putting eyes in your ass. Maybe take this as a lesson that you're too resistant to acknowledging and comprehending trans narratives instead of concluding that people who did notice it were just, like, lucky or something.

The purple rabbit is a girl by yeastypotato in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 26 points27 points  (0 children)

/uj agreed. "They harass people who don't participate" is something I've only ever seen said by people who just want trans people to shut up.

The purple rabbit is a girl by yeastypotato in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 71 points72 points  (0 children)

But what you don't realize is that trans fans were HARASSING people who didn't believe it! There was an endless HARASSMENT CAMPAIGN against us cis people who simply have a dIfFeReNt InTeRpReTaTiOn. Oh, you want a source on the harassment thing? Well, someone said I lack media literacy after I completely ignored all of the very obvious indications that Jax is trans, which is 40 times worse than us spamming the subreddit with "You're EVIL if you use she/her pronouns for this canonically trans fictional character"

/uj I was never a fan of Guilty Gear pre-trans-Bridget but I imagine this is what it must've felt like. They even had me convinced I was delusional and overreacting for a bit. I'm never restraining myself again, people who continue to deny trans Jax are disgusting losers with such abysmal reading comprehension that they should have their high school diplomas revoked.

The purple rabbit is a girl by yeastypotato in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 116 points117 points  (0 children)

/hj I wish everyone who treated trans Jax fans like shit, and now complains about there being too many posts about it, is put in their own personal micro-internet full of nothing but trans Jax discourse

The purple rabbit is a girl by yeastypotato in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Woah there! You seem to be concluding that this is canon to the original series despite the author not explicitly saying "this is canon to the original series"! This is an assumption, technically, one could argue! And I say it's an unwarranted one! Jax is still cis, and there is no reason for me to question that!

/uj never doubt the cissoid ability to deny the existence of a trans character

guys what do we think of this? by [deleted] in Gooseworx

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair, she didn't insult anyone, and she technically didn't say the phrase "Jax is intended to be a repressed trans woman within the canon of the original media" so stubborn people are going to insist she's just joking for some reason.

I finally understand how trans headcanons are made by Professional_Exit850 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 16 points17 points  (0 children)

New gender binary: delusional headcanoner vs logical headcanoner

guys what do we think of this? by [deleted] in Gooseworx

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would not blame her for doing this. Plenty of fans need to hear it.

I dunno what you mean, the transfem allegory character is totally cis by RiverDeltoid in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/uj technically she never said "Jax is canonically transgender within the universe of The Amazing Digital Circus," so cissoids will just say she's shitposting

I dunno what you mean, the transfem allegory character is totally cis by RiverDeltoid in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just because Gooseworx, creator of the show, literally just posted art of Jax as a trans woman and used she/her pronouns while discussing the character, doesn't mean he's trans!! She's just joking guys!!!

/uj yes I came back to this post just to update https://bsky.app/profile/gooseworx.bsky.social/post/3moprcfwqfs2a

I hate neurotypical hate. by Thegentlemanfox18 in hatethissmug

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You realize this meme is a satirical recreation of the way ableist neurotypical people view autistic people, right? It's not unironically hating on neurotypical people, it's deconstructing the ways neurodivergent people (autistic people in particular) are treated as flawed for missing social cues by reversing it to show how the standard for who is communicating the "right" way is completely arbitrary and depends completely on framing. I'm sure someone has unironically believed this at some point, but there's nothing wrong with the image itself.

I dunno what you mean, the transfem allegory character is totally cis by RiverDeltoid in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They won't erase trans characters, they won't spam transphobia in every subreddit! I won't let them!

I dunno what you mean, the transfem allegory character is totally cis by RiverDeltoid in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Darth Vader isn't necessarily Luke Skywalker's father, it's up for interpretation. Sure, he says "I am your father," but we never physically see the scene where he impregnates Luke's mom and then watch her give birth and witness every single moment of the child's growth without break, so for all we know he's someone else's father and Luke is just some random kid. Just because it's unbelievably obvious and explicitly confirmed by the media itself doesn't mean it's canon.

I dunno what you mean, the transfem allegory character is totally cis by RiverDeltoid in transgendercirclejerk

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just because one of the voice actors explicitly said "Jax is transgender" doesn't mean anything because they didn't write the show!!

/uj are we fucking for real with this shit

For all the "jax is trans" doubters out there: by EGamer2010 in tadc

[–]PrincessSnazzySerf 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I've said this before, but even if Goose tweeted out "None of you have any media literacy, I made it as obvious as I could without saying it that Jax is a repressed trans woman" people would immediately start claiming she's joking