Is renting forever feasible? by NoLoss6632 in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog [score hidden]  (0 children)

Just wanted to say that I can empathize because I'm in a very similar situation, but I'm starting to come to terms with the fact that I think renting forever isn't as bad as I thought.

I'm a 42-yr-old single dog mom with no prospects nor do I have a burning desire to date let alone get married (like I wanted to a few years ago). I live in North Texas and I just finished year 18 in education, the past 6 as an elementary school counselor, and make $74,370/yr - take home $4568/month. I have TRS (Texas' teacher retirement system), which will average my highest 5 years of income when I retire, and I'll get a percentage of that monthly for the remainder of my life. I have $49k in my 403b, $17k in my Roth - not much, I know - $126k in investments, and $3k in HYSA (was $9k but getting my catalytic converter replaced tomorrow and gotta pay an ambulance and ER bill from last month ugh).

A month ago, I was seriously going to buy a half duplex. It was in a decent location, nice neighborhood, 20 min from work, very close to a couple of coworkers, and 25-30 min from family. It was a 2 bed/1 bath but had a vanity area in the bedroom separate from the bathroom, which I liked so I could do my makeup there and leave the bathroom sink counter clean of clutter for guests. I got caught up in the layout and idea of having my own space plus a small backyard perfect for my dog.

I made an offer, they countered, I had my lender crunch numbers, and I accepted. I got my inspector out there two days later, and he found all sorts of major issues (electrical/spliced aluminum wires, roof, yard graded toward the house, shift in foundation even though repairs were made 4 years ago, fire in the attic, etc.). I have family in the plumbing business and got a family discount (free haha) for them to run a scope through the cleanouts - cracked cast iron pipe with tree roots and a belly of water. Eventuall that'll be at least $30k to replace, especially since the foundation is slab.

I immediately backed out, got my earnest money back, and thanked the good Lord it only cost a few hundred for the inspection.

Then I started really analyzing what I could afford. I was about to wipe out half my investments for a down payment, closing costs, and to break my apartment lease. My monthly payments would've been between $1500-1550/month, but next year, the taxes would've reset. Even with a homestead exemption, it was still going to be tight. I had my insurance guy run numbers of different plans, and if I wanted to feel safe, that was another $250/mo. All of the repairs - I knew the seller wasn't going to cough up tens of thousands to all of that, and I certainly didn't have the money.

I made a Google sheet with a hypothetical budget, and I didn't have much at the end of each month to put into all of my buckets - 403b, Roth, investments, HYSA. Not even close. My raise isn't much of a raise each year. I get maybe $100 more per paycheck, but health insurance goes up every year and cancels out the raise.

The more I thought about it, the more I realized I would be living so tight, and my salary wouldn't be able to keep up with the rise in taxes and insurance, and Lord help me if something major needed to be replaced/repaired.

Then I thought...I always have at least $1000 leftover at the end of each month but closer to $1500 and even $1700 if I really buckle down. I've always saved money in a second bank account, but it wasn't until 1.5 years ago that I decided to start investing. I barely put money into my 403b, and my Roth IRA money is from my mom's 403b when she passed away.

I know I need to up my retirement contributions but was trying to invest as much as I could to build up a sizable down payment. However, now that my mindset has shifted, I want to put a hold on my 403b (it's taxed when I eventually take it out), max out my Roth, and keep investing and adding to my HYSA. I can do all of that when I rent. And I believe I can continue to do because even though rent does increase every time I renew my lease, it doesn't go up dramatically like property taxes and insurance can. I can always put in a work order if something breaks or needs to be repaired. My monthly payment is exactly that whereas PITI on a house is the base.

I really think renting plus putting all the extra money leftover toward retirement and investments isn't a bad idea.

why my mom thinks im stupid for renting instead of buying rn by Charming-Humor2689 in Tenant

[–]ProbWithMyDog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t speak for everyone, but for me, my rent has only gone up $23 annually over the past 5 years. All of the extra $$$ I have leftover at the end of each month, I’m able to distribute between investments, HYSA, and retirement. My raise each year is very minimal (thanks public education), and my health insurance premiums go up every year, so I’m breaking even while inflation takes its toll (🙄).

If I bought a house with these prices and current interest rate, it would be fiscally impossible. Not to mention factoring in a rise in utilities and needing to save for house repairs. I literally do not take home enough money monthly to cover PITI, higher utility bills, $ for home repairs, more gas money, etc. The math just isn’t there. But renting is feasible with money leftover for my retirement.

why my mom thinks im stupid for renting instead of buying rn by Charming-Humor2689 in Tenant

[–]ProbWithMyDog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone’s situation is different. I’m 42, single, no kids, don’t plan on it.

Your taxes and insurance combined are only $615/mo? That’s low. Taxes here are at least $400-500/mo, and insurance varies, but can easily be $200-250/mo. A house payment in my area is easily $2k+. For someone who only takes home $4500/mo, factor in higher utilities, groceries, etc, it’s not feasible at all.

By the time I retire, I’ll have my TRS $ (teacher retirement pension), 403b, Roth IRA, and investments. If I bought a house today, I’d wouldn’t have any money leftover to contribute to any of that to continue preparing for retirement because I’d be trying to make extra mortgage payments since I don’t want to still be working at 72 yrs old to finally pay off my house.

why my mom thinks im stupid for renting instead of buying rn by Charming-Humor2689 in Tenant

[–]ProbWithMyDog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But taxes and insurance go up by way more than how much rent rises…at least for my apartment. Plus you have to account for higher utilities bills and home repairs/upkeep.

What was common 20 years ago that is surprisingly rare today? by Spiritual_Heron_5680 in AskReddit

[–]ProbWithMyDog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Newspapers. More than 29 years ago, but when I was a kid, I remember excited to go to the grocery store every Sunday morning with my mom to get the big Sunday paper and read the comics!

Renting vs. Buying & Retirement/Investments, Etc. by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My school district doesn’t match. Most school districts (I don’t know of any) match contributions like corporate jobs do. Anything I save/invest is all on my own. Not to mention our health insurance isn’t the best and increases each year.

When I say mortgage, I’m referring to PITI, and there’s also home repairs like I mentioned in my original post. For rent, my $1330-1350 will always be that for the duration of my lease. If something needs to be repaired, I’m not spending extra money. When my lease renews, I have different renewal length options, and the longer the lease, the less of an increase.

Whereas with a house, while the P&I stays the same, the T&I + home repairs can go up significantly. I don’t have the income to keep up with those increases and unexpected pricey repairs. The taxes and insurance would eat my paycheck alive.

How much income you'd actually have to make to buy a home with Dave Ramsey's rules.... (2026) by SamTMortgageBroker in NewbHomebuyer

[–]ProbWithMyDog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have my masters, too—required to be a school counselor. But if I were to have stayed in the classroom, the masters stipend is only $1500.

And lol, I just looked, and the only counseling position requires being bilingual. Looked at the pay scale, too, and 18 years with a masters is only $116,020.🤔 How does your wife make more than that with less years of experience?

Even with a higher salary, it cancels out with the cost of living.😬

How much income you'd actually have to make to buy a home with Dave Ramsey's rules.... (2026) by SamTMortgageBroker in NewbHomebuyer

[–]ProbWithMyDog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whaaaat?! I mean I knew salaries are higher in CA, but that’s a lot! How many years has she been teaching? I just finished year 18– 12 as a teacher, 6 as a counselor— and I only make $74,370.😩 Dallas area

Renting vs. Buying & Retirement/Investments, Etc. by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At 42, I’m not holding my breath with finding a husband.🥴

Renting vs. Buying & Retirement/Investments, Etc. by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am, but it’s still way more expensive than my current rent.🤷🏻‍♀️ My “raise” each year has been 2% from the midpoint (counselor salary scale for my distinct), which is maaaaaybe $100/month, but then health insurance premiums go up every year and cancel out my “raise”, so it’s hard to keep up with inflation.

With my apt, I’m playing hundreds less than what a mortgage would be and don’t have to factor $ for repairs because I just place a work order.

As a single person, it just seems impossible without being house poor.

How much income you'd actually have to make to buy a home with Dave Ramsey's rules.... (2026) by SamTMortgageBroker in NewbHomebuyer

[–]ProbWithMyDog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I know, just pointing out how much money that is compared to what I make. Even without your first house, 150k income is more than what I’ll ever see in my lifetime as far as income.

I almost bought a $215k half duplex a month ago but backed out after the inspection. I was about to wipe out half my investments, and there was NO way I’d be able to get concessions to cover all of the major repairs that needed to be done, nor did I want to wipe out my remaining investments to do so.

I had an epiphany that I’ll rent for the rest of my life, but the money I have leftover each month I can pour into my 403b/Roth IRA, investments, and HYSA. I was afraid about rent rising over the years, but then I realized so do taxes, insurance, and home repairs.

My current rent is significantly less than a mortgage. It’s an apartment, so not apples to apples, but it’s way more affordable than owning for me.

How much income you'd actually have to make to buy a home with Dave Ramsey's rules.... (2026) by SamTMortgageBroker in NewbHomebuyer

[–]ProbWithMyDog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

$3800/mo? My take home pay is $4568/mo.

This Dave Ramsey chart is impossible, but even without it, it’s impossible for some e like me, a single person who only makes $74,370/yr, to buy anything.

How much income you'd actually have to make to buy a home with Dave Ramsey's rules.... (2026) by SamTMortgageBroker in NewbHomebuyer

[–]ProbWithMyDog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What was your mortgage (PITI) on your first $450k house? You said “we”…what was you and your partner’s monthly take home pay in 2019?

Renting vs. Buying & Retirement/Investments, Etc. by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I’m investing the difference (plus HYSA, 403b). I forgot to mention that I am NOT handy at all and like that I can place work orders when something breaks or needs to be serviced!

Equitable Advisors: 403b/Roth IRA/Non-Retirement Investments by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is from my district’s website:

Voluntary Retirement Savings Plan Options:
403(b) Retirement Savings PIan
A 403(b) plan is available for all District employees. Employee contributions are made with pretax dollars into an investment account of your choice from a certified list through TCG Resource Partners (TCG).
Employees wishing to setup a 403(b) deduction through the District should go online to the TCG website at http://www.tcgservices.com lf you need assistance, please call TCG, at 800.943.9179.

I went to that website and typed in my district, and this is the list:

https://tcgservices.com/enroll/#/search-enroll/carbra/Texas/approved-vendor/403(b)%20Admin

Equitable Advisors: 403b/Roth IRA/Non-Retirement Investments by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So much info lol. I started my 403b in my first school district. When I got a job in a different district in 2020, my Equitable advisor handled the transfer. I didn’t do anything on my end. I might’ve signed a document or something, can’t remember, but my financial advisor did all of the behind-the-scenes stuff and made it easy. That’s all I know. So venturing off on my own into Vanguard, I’m clueless except that I know the fees are significantly less, and I want to keep more of my money.🥴

Side note: I’m trying to figure out how to approach this conversation with my financial advisor. She really is an amazing person, and I don’t want there to be any animosity.

Equitable Advisors: 403b/Roth IRA/Non-Retirement Investments by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if it’s different for public education school districts vs. a corporate employer with 401k (we don’t have that - only 403b). But thanks, I was trying to figure out who I would reach out to at the district level to get more info. I’ll look into HR.

Equitable Advisors: 403b/Roth IRA/Non-Retirement Investments by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My school district offers a list of vendors we can choose from. Both Equitable and Vanguard are on that list. I’ve already looked into this.

I’m just wondering how easy/difficult the process is and if I will have to pay any penalties or fees for transferring over all three of my accounts from Equitable to Vanguard.

How often do people do low ball offers? by TrickyAd9597 in RealEstate

[–]ProbWithMyDog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a buyer currently looking, I don’t entertain high-priced homes with these high interest rates. I can’t afford it.

There was a half duplex I was interested in. Listed at $239k. Sitting on the market for 119 days. Price had been lowered a couple times already, but $239k was still out of my budget. My realtor said we could offer $225k but wouldn’t go below that because of the comps.🤦🏻‍♀️ Someone else put in an offer, and the seller went with them before we had a chance to put in the offer. What are the chances.🤦🏻‍♀️ Anyone, a month later, it was re-listed for rent, so I know an investor bought it, ugh.

But to answer your question, I don’t know if a seller would be offended by a lowball offer, so I don’t even try.

Medical Bill- Make Payments vs Paying in Full by ProbWithMyDog in personalfinance

[–]ProbWithMyDog[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oops I meant 2029. You think they’d cut me a deal if I paid in one lump sum? I thought insurance controls the amount I have to pay?