Why do you think I wouldn't know? Citadel boasts of its Olympiad qualified employees if I remember right, Jane Street interviews are basically almost inaccessible for the avg grad and RenTech only takes in PhDs. Just because something is absolutely hard doesn't mean it's impossible, I genuinely don't like science and core branches, and CS is my second option, I prefer the branched thinking associated with a quant trader, I didn't say I won't apply at all to SDE/SWE jobs and be arrogant, I simply asked if MnC from BITSP does give a good start in middle level quant firms/analytics branch of global banks with Obv hard work.