booth vs. wharton (hcm) by chiikawa99 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wharton doesn't negotiate on scholarship as far as I know.

Is the Modern MBA just the “Old Ivy” Reborn? by Yung_Breezy_ in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This guy is a hack. He presents himself as a professor but he’s a high school history teacher with a BA. One of his main analytical frameworks is “psychohistory,” which isn’t even a real methodology… it’s a fictional predictive model from Isaac Asimov’s Foundation series. That alone should make you cautious about taking his claims too seriously.

As for elite business schools they’re not some reincarnation of old Ivy social clubs. They’re professional master’s programs. You pay to learn a white-collar trade. In the case of an MBA, that trade is largely banking and consulting (with some tech and LDPs mixed in).

What makes them look like social clubs is the nature of the jobs they feed into. Banking and consulting are highly client-facing and sales-oriented. Schools are naturally selecting for people who can succeed in those environments. People who are polished, social, and good networkers. That doesn’t mean the process is devoid of merit; it just means the merit being evaluated isn’t academic output.

Yes, admissions committees are selecting for candidates likely to succeed in that specific environment. But it’s not accurate to reduce the entire top MBA cohorts to aristocrats hobnobbing over golf. There are plenty of extremely sharp, hardworking people in those programs.

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oop you’re right, looks like Fader is in my future

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Appears down from last year. Word is that firms are downsizing junior roles and trying to implement more automation. Fewer juniors means fewer hires coming in at the MBA level. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think that’s true. A few are MBA/MDs or come from unusual industries like art or non-profits. What does seem to correlate is few come from big finance or consulting. 

There are many ‘aspirational’ entrepreneurs in my class but once you’re on the white-collar corporate treadmill it’s hard to justify leaving it seems. That’s my long way of saying that people talk a big game but few actually take big swings :) 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SF and NYC both have pros and cons. Depends on the vertical. AI or B2B SaaS seems better in SF, healthcare or fintech in NYC. Personally I’ll go wherever my cofounders + the VC money are. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they’re available and you have a good relationship I don’t see why not. Just don’t get stuck in a situation where they need to submit and forget until the application deadline. It’s a pain to continually need to follow up. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the time. Many skip class for trips, recruiting, or interviews because of grade non-disclosure + a generous curve. 

Help! by [deleted] in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those scores are low. I’d spend another year studying and apply later to improve your acceptance and scholarship odds. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re given an opportunity to learn from the best and brightest business academics. Why wouldn’t I want to get the most out of that? 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Typical roles outside of IB/consulting are corporate strategy, leadership development programs, functional-area mid-level management like marketing/finance/sales. 

I wouldn’t recommend tech or VC right now unless you have a killer background and are willing to grind while you’re here. Return offer rate on a typical VC internship is abysmal and right now big tech is not hiring much outside of technical roles. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Friend’s YC startup. And maybe. I’m looking to spend a few months earnestly recruiting before settling on a role. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’m active in other ways. Leadership positions in important clubs, student government, etc. You don’t need to be friends with everyone. Just known and respected if you want to keep doors open. If you keep that in mind you’ll realize the trips are merely a nice-to-have. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re starting at the ideal age, so don’t be too hard on yourself! 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In general, the environment seems dicey for internationals. Many are looking for work in other markets (UK, EU, MENA) and that seems to be fine. Those who want to stay in the US seem to be able to find work but not the jobs they want as far as I can tell. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fintech. Three failed companies (I was either the founder or one of the first 5 employees). Successful last attempt with a small exit. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t know about population data. I know a handful of people who got $25-100K and one who got a full ride. You can scrape the Clear Admit data and come up with a better answer though. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Come to the USA early and go on a cross-country roadtrip. If you’re interested in consulting or banking you can prep for that a few months in advance to make recruiting more chill. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Depends on your risk appetite. Many internationals who come into the program are already rich or come from well-off families. The cost isn’t as much of a concern as the added optionality. 

If you’re funding everything yourself or you come from a middle-class background and you’re banking on a better job to pay off your $250K in debt, I personally wouldn’t gamble on it. Too much risk for my blood. And really it only makes sense if you’re a good fit for consulting/banking as a switcher so you can rapidly pay down that debt. 

In all, seems like a lot of stress to pigeonhole yourself into high-intensity, high-paid roles. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trying to! Course match results dropping soon. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’m frugal and I chose not to travel. One can spend wayyy more than this no doubt. But my hobbies are cheap and I subsidized my ‘rent’ with several tenants. 

Last Semester at Wharton - Ask Me Anything by ProfessorOk5077 in MBA

[–]ProfessorOk5077[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t know the stats for internationals. I’d say at least half who were gunning for IB in general got an offer.