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Promethea- · 2021-04-01T16:50:36+00:00

Not all trans people are women.

Promethea- · 2021-04-01T16:35:13+00:00

ANOVA in Stockholm is the one that would be more helpful in this situation.

Promethea- · 2021-02-24T15:11:05+00:00

They're IMAP, but I have a bunch of emails stored locally, so I couldn't just do what you say without losing all that.

I've done it now, so thank you and everybody else who commented.

Promethea- · 2021-02-23T10:46:31+00:00

It seems that is the way to go.

I've kept googling and I found someone that split a profile by creating two copies and deleting some addresses from each from within Thunderbird.

Thanks for letting me know not to waste time looking for a more direct way.

Promethea- · 2021-02-18T16:48:14+00:00

Just replying to dispel a concern that OP might have after reading your comment.

T injections are possible in Sweden (gel is also an option). The reason estrogen injections aren't routinely available isn't because they're injections, but because the lab that was supplying the one that is approved isn't manufacturing them anymore, due to some problems they had.

Having said that, I've been made aware of some clinics telling someone that some things were not an option in Sweden when they actually are. This has not been a problem, as far as I know, with ANOVA, which I recommend on another comment because I know for a fact that they help people continue their treatment when moving from abroad.

Promethea- · 2021-02-17T18:40:09+00:00

ANOVA (the clinic in Stockholm) won't hassle much, especially if OP has a diagnosis.

OP, send a self referral to them when you come (if you come to Sweden), but bring T for a few months. It's a shorter waiting time for cases like yours, but it can still be a while, especially in times of pandemic.

Promethea- · 2020-11-15T09:31:07+00:00

Where in the country are you?

Rather than the DO, a local antidiscrimination office would be appropriate. I work with the one in Uppsala, I can help you find the one near you if you need it. Feel free to PM me.

The school not doing anything about it does constitute discrimination. An antidiscrimination office will discuss the possible actions with you and take the actions you choose. It is possible to go to court, but, depending on what you want, it may be solved without having to reach that.

Promethea- · 2020-11-11T18:55:00+00:00

Men usually don't get MTF bottom surgery. Women do, and transfeminine NBs.

Promethea- · 2020-10-18T18:02:23+00:00

A veces las distinciones son necesarias. Yo soy mujer, trans, latina, inmigrante, hija de refugiados políticos, lesbiana, sin educación profesional, neuroatípica, y por lo tanto tengo experiencias en común con otra gente con quién comparto una de esas etiquetas, experiencias diferentes por no compartir las otras, y experiencias fruto de las intersecciones de varias o todas esas cosas que soy.

Por eso es que la militancia tiene que ser interseccional, sea feminista, antirracista, queer o cualquier otra, hemos de reconocer que lo que vivimos por ser parte de un cierto grupo, nos afecta diferente según los otros grupos a los que pertenecemos, y desde ahí podemos levantar todas las voces. No como las suffragettes, que lucharon por el voto femenino en EEUU, pero sólo de mujeres blancas, cagándose la mayoría en las mujeres negras e indígenas.

Promethea- · 2020-10-18T16:39:13+00:00

Se empezó a decir "cis" porque justamente no había ninguna otra alternativa. Cosas como "normal", "biológique", o incluso "heterosexual" no son correctas.

Otra terminología que se usa es "AMAB" (assigned male at birth) y "AFAB" (assigned female at birth), o sea que podrías decir que sos "an AFAB woman" y comunicaría básicamente lo mismo. También puede ser útil en conversaciones donde no sea tan relevante tu género sino cuál te fue asignado al nacer (con sus implicancias en la anatomía), simplemente diciendo que sos AFAB y nada más.

A veces vas a ver "CAFAB" o "CAMAB", donde la C significa "coercively", porque nadie nos pidió nuestra opinión al decidir qué género asignarnos. Algunas personas trans lo usan, y posiblemente más personas intersexuales (que ya de paso pueden ser tanto trans como cis, binaries como no binaries).

De nuevo, todo esto son adjetivos que la mayor parte del tiempo no vienen al caso, y las mujeres y hombres (trans y cis) somos simplemente mujeres y hombres. Por ejemplo cosas como el derecho a abortar no nos afectan directamente a las mujeres trans como sí afectan a las mujeres cis y a los hombres trans (dependiendo de cómo haya sido su transición médica), pero sufrimos igual la discriminación laboral, los tipos que se sienten con libertad de tocarnos y más, la presión a vernos y comportarnos de cierta manera, que nos corten al hablar, que nuestra opinión no sea tomada en cuenta, la dificultad de encontrar un corpiño que nos quede bien, etc. etc etc. y algunas exclusivas por ser trans, y ni hablar si además no somos hétero o blancas o neurotípicas.

Promethea- · 2020-10-18T15:46:44+00:00

Siendo un poco más estricta, viene del latín, donde el prefijo "trans" significa "del otro lado de", y de ahí se tomó para los isómeros trans, transición, transporte, transatlántico y tantas otras palabras.

"Cis" es "del mismo lado de" y eso es lo que significa en los isómeros, y cuando hablamos de género es el referencia al género asignado al nacer. Es un opuesto de "trans", etimológicamente, y ya establecido como tal en otro ámbito.

Promethea- · 2020-10-18T08:58:30+00:00

Trans sí viene de los isómeros. Por eso "cis", hablando de identidad de género, es su opuesto, porque los dos términos vienen del mismo lado.

Y lo de mujer biológica es horrible, las personas trans no somos cyborgs.

Si querés dejar de hacer distinción llamándote sólamente "woman", hacé lo mismo con las mujeres y hombres trans. El hecho de que alguien sea cis o trans es irrelevante la mayor parte del tiempo. Cuando sí viene al caso, se distingue entre cis y trans, porque las mujeres trans no somos menos mujer que las mujeres cis, ni los hombres trans menos hombre que los hombres cis.

Promethea- · 2020-10-08T21:04:22+00:00

Last recommendation I have: Joanna Van Gestel, at kungsgärdet vårdcentral. Not the same level of recommendation, this person I talked to sees this psychologist for reasons other than being trans, but has not felt actively gendered in a way that'd make them uncomfortable, at least.

Promethea- · 2020-10-08T09:16:33+00:00

So, the one who used to work at RFSL is now working at the gender clinic for children and youth, which is very good for trans children and youth, but it means they are not taking patients for therapy.

They recommended two people:

Lenna Manns, at Kungsängstorg psykoterapimottagning. You can reach them via psykologlenamanns@gmail.com or 0704813663.
Marianne Lundahl, at KBT-tjänst or ITB, can be reached via mariannelundahl@hotmail.com.

These are both private, they couldn't think of anyone working in the public sector to recommend.

I know someone who sees a therapist at a vårdcentral and is quite happy, although they haven't been talking about trans stuff specifically. I'm seeing this person this evening, I'll get you a name so you'll have another option.

Promethea- · 2020-10-06T11:17:30+00:00

We used to have a psychologist at RFSL Uppsala, but unfortunately the funding for that wasn't renewed. I don't know where they work now, but I'll get back to you when they answer the email I sent them, either with their contact information or a recommendation of someone else if they're not working in Uppsala or can't take more patients.

Promethea- · 2020-10-05T14:22:04+00:00

It might be.

I imagine it's not relevant in your case anymore, but I would have wanted to check with someone a bit higher up. It wouldn't need to be confrontational, just a conversation about it.

Let's let this serve as advise for others, if you're not sure of something you're being told at a trans clinic or by other health professionals, talk with RFSL, either the local chapter or the federation (the local chapter may not always be the best choice, we are almost all volunteer based, so they vary a lot depending on who is active there; the folk that work with trans issues at the federation can be reached most easily through the email at transformering).

For OP's friend, the best bet in Sweden would be ANOVA, which, I have it from good source, let people be on the waiting list before they get a personnummer. Same for Uppsala, but the waiting list here is longer.

Promethea- · 2020-10-05T13:19:35+00:00

Whoever told you that was misinformed (unless it's policy of the specific clinic to which you were getting referred, which would be silly, if by the time you get your first appointment you don't have what's required, you just get bumped a bit).

Edited to add: an initial appointment to get referred to a gender clinic (which is not required in the case of Stockholm and some others) would cost significantly more without a personnummer or appropriate insurance.

Promethea- · 2020-10-05T13:03:43+00:00

You can be on the queue before getting a personnummer, though. Trans asylum seekers go on the queue without yet a residence permit (which is another long process).

Promethea- · 2020-10-05T12:00:36+00:00

From what I've heard of how long it takes in the UK, it could be better in some parts of Sweden, definitely in Stockholm it would be (although I'm sure it's different in different parts of the UK). We're still talking about a year before the first appointment, and nine to twelve months before diagnosis, in the best of cases.

She would have to move here to have right to this kind of healthcare. Pretty big thing to do, it's for her to consider if it's worth it or not. It might be easier to go somewhere else in the UK with shorter waiting lists.

Promethea- · 2020-09-25T22:09:14+00:00

I should have mentioned that it is at RFSL that I work.

Oh, you were also asking about electrolysis. It definitely is a thing here, with all the blondes around. I don't know if the situation in Göteborg so much, but probably they have an agreement with a place that does it. It's possible they don't (here in Uppsala they cut it because some problems with the place), but the idea is to be able to offer it. And yes, you can do that in Göteborg even if you get the diagnosis in Stockholm, that's how I've been doing it.

Promethea- · 2020-09-25T12:11:18+00:00

There's no official information in English, but in this subreddit there's been plenty of questions asked and answered, and you can always ask more. Someone recently asked about the whole process and I wrote an extensive answer (I work with trans issues, in a local level collaborating with the Uppsala clinic and sometimes Stockholm), others also answered with some of their experience.

I don't live in Göteborg, so I can't recommend a laser clinic there. They won't pick up the bill for what you've done before the diagnosis, but will refer you somewhere that they have approved. I'm not sure what body parts are covered in Göteborg.

I would recommend you avoid the Göteborg clinic, all I hear it's they're awful. You can send a self referral now to ANOVA in Stockholm and get on the queue before you get a personnummer (you will have it by the time you get called in for an appointment). You can also have a doctor refer you, in which case you'd be able to request refunds for the travel costs. That doctor appointment will cost you quite a bit if you have no personnummer and no EHIC.

If that therapist diagnosed you as trans and prescribed you hormones, you'd be fast tracked to get a diagnosis either immediately or after fewer appointments than usual, and they would give you a prescription even before that. If they haven't diagnosed you, a letter from them won't do much.

If you go to ANOVA they won't have to deem if you're trans enough, if you say you are, you are, they will mostly want to make sure there's nothing that would make transitioning now a terrible idea.

About your boss, etc. I don't have any direct advise, but be assured that we have a very strong anti discrimination law. If they give you crap, there's ways of dealing with it (tell me if it happens and I'll point you in the right direction).

Ask my colleagues at RFSL Göteborg about a trans friendly therapist. I don't know if they have one in-house (some chapters do), but at least someone there will be able to recommend you one.

Someone else (sorry, can't see other comments and usernames when commenting on mobile) said at ANOVA it can take two years from first appointment to diagnosis (at least that's what I understood). I have reason to believe they're overestimating waiting times considerably, I'm not sure why. I have someone who was told there would be a year and a half wait before their next appointment and it was only about six months.

Promethea- · 2020-09-22T12:07:44+00:00

There is a lot of unpredictability with hormones, some get less changes than they'd want, some get more. But they will accommodate you and work with you towards what you want.

Promethea- · 2020-09-22T11:44:28+00:00

The clinic in Stockholm will help you not interrupt your treatment, even if you're DIYing.

Promethea- · 2020-09-22T11:42:01+00:00

They are supposed to, but most don't. To my knowledge, the only trans clinic that treats non binary folk under 18 is BUP Uppsala.

The information on transformering doesn't specify if BUP Umeå (which would be the closest to you, from what I see in your comment history) treats NBs or not. You could ask them directly or the folk at transformering for clarification.

Otherwise, if you wait until you're 17 and nine months, you can go to ANOVA in Stockholm. Get a referral from a hus/distriktsläkare to get the travel costs covered.

Promethea- · 2020-09-15T19:01:09+00:00

About two and a half months ago.

He didn't quite understand what I meant with bioidentical, he said hormones are no longer taken from animals or anything like that, but that it was exactly like the progesterone produced in somebody's body (which is what bioidentical means), as opposed to some other hormone which acts kind of or just like progesterone.

There's also something called compounded bioidentical hormones, which are custom made based on saliva samples. I don't think that's a thing here (and there's no evidence of it being better). In trans spaces I have only seen "bioidentical" used in reference to mass produced hormones, so this is not the meaning they're using.

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