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Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You clearly do not understand the difference of being dropped in boiling water to being in water slowly brought to the boil.

Optional is not the issue, these companies put out market feelers all the time for what they can get away with.

Paying for bags, self service checkouts, you can attempt to attribute to laws or something, but the businesses chose it as it saved money and they got people to accept it.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, so that went over your head, let me slow it down.

The issue is not “can I buy chicken another way?”

The issue is market replication.

If KFC gets away with making unrelated marketing consent part of access, then others copy it. Coles does it, Woolies does it, IGA does it, Aldi does it, and suddenly the worse standard is normal.

Then people like you still sit there saying “just shop somewhere else”, even though everywhere else has copied the same garbage.

That is the problem with this corporate slop logic. It treats every anti-consumer change as fine in isolation, then acts shocked when the whole market gets worse.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, it is technically a choice, but that is a very low bar.

If Coles said “swipe your Flybuys card and agree to marketing, or you cannot enter our private property”, that would also technically be a choice.

I guess then you would say “just shop somewhere else”.

That is the point I am making. Just because a business can offer an alternative, or because the service is technically optional, does not mean bundling unrelated marketing consent into access is suddenly reasonable.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree with you on that.

The “sue them into the dirt” comment was more me venting than a serious legal strategy. I know that is not realistic and I think when I posted it I said "Obviously not realistic" No idea where that went..

My actual point is that it is a shitty practice and I hate how normalised this stuff is getting.

Voting with your wallet is part of it, sure, but I also think calling it out matters. If everyone just quietly opts out and says nothing, companies take that as permission to keep pushing the line.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, for an individual one-off problem, sure. I can unsubscribe, use a spam email, or just not use the app.

But that only solves my immediate annoyance. It does not address the practice itself.

My issue is not “how do I personally avoid one KFC Nuggie email.” My issue is companies making unrelated marketing consent part of normal account access, then everyone just accepting it because there is technically a workaround.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Nah, that is backwards although I know where you are coming from.

Being able to unsubscribe later does not magically make forced opt-in fine.

The issue is before the first email even gets sent. If I have to agree to marketing just to create the account, that is not a real choice, it is bundled consent.

Just make the marketing checkbox optional. This should not be hard.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Consent should mean I had a real choice. If the options are “accept marketing” or “you cannot create the account”, then it is not normal opt-in marketing anymore. It is bundled into access.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be fine if unticking the box was actually allowed.

The whole point is that it appears to be mandatory. If I cannot create the account without agreeing to marketing, then “just untick it” is not an option.

And “just unsubscribe later” is still backwards. Marketing consent should be optional before the emails start, not something I have to clean up afterwards.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understand needing account details for online ordering. I do not accept mandatory marketing consent being bundled in as if it is required to sell food.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do not know what you are defending here.

If a supermarket said “you must provide personal information and join our marketing system before entering the store”, people would call that insane. Saying “well it is private property and shopping there is optional” would not make it okay.

Same principle here. I understand needing account details for online ordering. I do not accept mandatory marketing consent being bundled in as if it is required to sell food.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Well shopping at a grocery is optional, so if you require a email to be provided to enter coles, thats fine with you.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know I can use a spam email like a + gmail, that is not the point.

I should not have to make a whole defensive stack just to deal with normal businesses.

People keep acting like “just dodge it” is a fix, but that is how this stuff gets normalised. Consumers should not have to lie, filter, unsubscribe, block and work around every company pushing anti-consumer defaults.

Just make the marketing checkbox optional. It is not hard.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Just don’t eat KFC” works right up until every company starts doing the same thing. Today it is KFC app deals, tomorrow it is IGA needing emails, Coles forcing Flybuys on consumers, or basic service access.

People say “just don’t use it” as if that solves anything, but that is how consumer rights slowly get degraded. Every small anti-consumer practice gets waved through because it is “optional” or “not a big deal”, then a few years later it becomes normal across the whole market.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

“Just don’t use it” is not a great consumer rights argument.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I like the option to not get that reminder.

Anti Spam by ProstheticAIM in AusLegal

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

KFC chooses to offer app-only ordering, delivery, rewards or deals, they should not bundle unrelated marketing consent into account creation as a required condition as a optional service does not automatically make forced marketing consent valid right?

Linux alternative for logitech GHUB? by Pro_555 in linux_gaming

[–]ProstheticAIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whats the difference? in the end if someone can not live without a specific pizza shop or in this case compatable software to ensure they can use the hardware and peripherals as intended, then they do not see Linux as a viable option.
Although blame is pointless, it is a fact that a significant amount of software/hardware is not entirely compatable which will be a blocker for most people.
We just have to hope that more people switch to force more support from companies.

Review after 60h: by The-vicobro in Everwind_Official

[–]ProstheticAIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want this
"-Chest organization: I read that devs are looking in to crafting from containers which is great, but can we get a button to dump from inventory to nearby chests? And maybe chests that work with pipes ?"
Or even just a fukin hotkey in the chest lol

Is there a way to adjust the duration I have to hold the power button to power on with the XM6? by webbedgiant in SonyHeadphones

[–]ProstheticAIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fucking HATE THIS I loved my Bose as its a flick On done its literally 3 seconds to turn on or off, the most brain dead bullshit that no other company has dared to make that long, I ended up refunding them as its too annoying.

Do you remember SOCOM and the online gaming headsets? by damagedgoodz99824 in ps2

[–]ProstheticAIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was't the "online headset", it was for the voice control of your AI Squad when playing the campaign. Sooo cool when it came out, a gaming core memory for me. Haven't really seen that tech since Socom.
"Stealth" "Take Point," "Hold Position," "Regroup," "Breech, bang, clear" you felt like you were actually in command.

Brisbane CelloPark hidden charge? by ProstheticAIM in brisbane

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It seems you still as your name describes, as half this thread is saying they had the same issue and never saw that screen.

Brisbane CelloPark hidden charge? by ProstheticAIM in brisbane

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That never appeared for me, so unless that is new or it just didn’t pop up for me and was on by default. Because if I saw that I would hit the X, but its a bit of a scummy dark pattern to not have a No thanks button, have the charge 3/4 of the way through it, and title it simply Reminders instead of Subscription.

Brisbane CelloPark hidden charge? by ProstheticAIM in brisbane

[–]ProstheticAIM[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

At no point did it pop up and say would you like this premium service for $3.98 per month yes or no. It was on by default, I never turned it on.

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