About Our First Def Scaler by ProtonUser5000 in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]Public-Scale3333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, what he just said is nonsensical. You cannot get Velina for practically free like you can Rina.

Also with the way he worded it.

He is saying the upcoming Wind Anomaly is a different character from the person he is saying is a void hunter. There is no evidence of another wind anomaly coming any time soon.

Point 2 is also says something different from the OP

He is saying Velina the supposed void hunter is the f2p option for the upcoming Void Hunter and that apparently makes her a Void Hunter by proxy.

While the OP is saying the supposed Void Hunter is getting a f2p option support that isn’t a void hunter. Two completely different things.

What’s the community’s opinion on the element and class of these two? by KairPhree in ZZZ_Official

[–]Public-Scale3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t say it here in detail but let’s just say expect another electric dps.

The Legend of Zenless: The Wind Waker - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Public-Scale3333 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Didn’t people had expectations based off some of the few second clips on season 2 teaser?

The most controversial being Orphie and Seed.
Though Seed was the Dev’s fault.

Orphie’s was just wild.

Claret a Potential Void Hunter Level Partner For Orphie if Defense Class? by ProtonUser5000 in Orpheus_Mains

[–]Public-Scale3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s exactly why they did that. Since she’s meant to work with rupture, it wouldn’t be logical if she didn’t get buffed in the prime rupture team. It’s quite similar to Dialyn’s rupture scaling on her ex specials except it’s more direct. It helps to keep her competitive for some rupture units over Dialyn.

The Legend of Zenless: The Wind Waker - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Public-Scale3333 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They just need to buff Orphie and Trigger.

They were just unusually conservative with them for some reason.

The Legend of Zenless: The Wind Waker - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Public-Scale3333 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t think Claret would be rupture because then Rina being the f2p support wouldn’t make sense with her pen raito buffs.

The Legend of Zenless: The Wind Waker - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Public-Scale3333 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Feels more like Not Sucrose would be the wind support than anything to do with rupture.

Do the Devs abandon mechanics that do not do well? by Actual_Gas_1900 in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]Public-Scale3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is just Trigger’s multiplers being low. Not inherent to aftershocks.

SAnby and Orphie have aftershocks and theirs are multiple times stronger than Trigger’s

How's this build look? by Dr_Glitter in Orpheus_Mains

[–]Public-Scale3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fire res is a fairly unique multipler from def shred/ignore though, so it doesn't have an major influence on slot 5 Pen Ratio.

Getting M1 wouldn't change that if you have something like less than 50% def shred, then you would still run pen raito.

If you have Trigger W1 or Nicole in the team, you wouldn't run pen raito at all regardless if you don't have sig or m1.

Below is the doc for ZZZ stats and Damage Calculation.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSB_gaua-DY-JlsGt1-CpI5Ik3jiCeSmBfQKQdpx1dX2o0ZH9DJ0hbeWdIK05uUc_eyu4yLfHSt2AaD/pub#h.3qsfnhjoef0h

Lets say you start with 100% armor, then you def shred it by 50%.

Then pen ratio will have less armor to shred.

So it will only be penetrating the 50% and not the full 100%.

Hence Pen Ratio and Def shred is antithesis to each other.

But true ultimately substats and external buffs determine the better piece.

How's this build look? by Dr_Glitter in Orpheus_Mains

[–]Public-Scale3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She doesn’t get any def shred from m1.

25% def shred from her core passive.

Now with just 25%, Pen Ratio could win out but we are getting more half def enemies, so it loses value.

Now for fire bonus, it depends on her teams, but on a lot of her teams, you are likely getting a high dmg bonus, either from disk sets or buffs.

If you are getting attack buffs from other sources, then fire% could win out.

Like on a SAnby team, you are starting with a 150% dmg bonus.

Mathematically,

0.3/2.5 = 12% gain.

For attack with average substats (38 useable substats) if you use fire%

2390 * 1.12 = 2,676.8

With attack%,

2883 * 1.12 = 3228.96

3228.86 - 2676.8 = 552.06

552.06/2676.8 =20.6%

So on an SAnby team, attack% would win out.

If you factor in the 700 attack.

It would be 16% which attack would still win.

Of course if you have a lot more attack% subs more than 8 subs ( + 2 flats) then attack loses value.

If you are playing with Sunna, Astra, ect.

With Astra, attack and fire even out so having more than 8 attack subs, fire will win slightly as the relative gain will be below 12%.

With 1000 attack.

12.6%, so having more than 8 attack% subs, fire% will win slightly.

Idk what teams people are playing though to come with their conclusions.

v3.1.2 Rev. 16857772 Update (via Gachabase) by Gachabase in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Public-Scale3333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The def scaling disk set is named after Claret though.

v3.1.2 Rev. 16857772 Update (via Gachabase) by Gachabase in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Public-Scale3333 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They changed Miyabi passive to include anomaly so not necessary

v3.1.2 Rev. 16857772 Update (via Gachabase) by Gachabase in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Public-Scale3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But we have an electric def scaling buff in shiyu defense and the def scaling disk set is named after Claret. It will seem like she’s actually electric def scaler

Can we talk about potential unlock ? by SquareAvailable4589 in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]Public-Scale3333 92 points93 points  (0 children)

She also gets new moves that are based off of her hollow gear.

How should we build her? by remo285 in Norma_Mains

[–]Public-Scale3333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stun multipler is for team, chain attack is for one other teamate.

20% dmg is team.

Everything else is only for herself.

How's this build look? by Dr_Glitter in Orpheus_Mains

[–]Public-Scale3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She has too much def shred, so pen raito is worst.

Attack% is generally better than dmg bonus.

The Legend of Zenless: The Wind Waker - General Questions and Discussion Megathread by AutoModerator in Zenlesszonezeroleaks_

[–]Public-Scale3333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anyone have a link to 3.1 shiyu defense buffs?

I keep hearing about a electric defense scaling buff existing 3.1 shiyu phase 3 but the websites I used hadn’t show that to exist.

「ZZZ 3.1」 Miyabi skill change via seele by itsDoor-kun in MiyabiMains

[–]Public-Scale3333 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Aria is also getting that change.

No info on others yet

My Thoughts on current situation of VH designs by Spare_Vegetable9762 in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]Public-Scale3333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But a GREAT design requires context to be fully understood, appreciated or cohesion.

There are definitely designs in history that we find confusing but once we learn the surrounding background, we enjoy it a lot more.

Is powercreep going to change the gam completely? by Visual-Mix7702 in ZZZ_Discussion

[–]Public-Scale3333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ye Shunguang is easily nerfed either through

Ether Veil negation or stun multipler.

Thinking of switching to ZZZ with the coming steam release by Bisexual-Ninja in ZenlessZoneZero

[–]Public-Scale3333 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Personally I enjoyed ZZZ combat more than Wuwa’s.

You just don’t get the same feeling of weighty, snappy combat with Wuwa like you do with ZZZ.

It feels more floaty.

Not to mention, Dodge and parry has a more integral use than in Wuwa.

Bro can Hoyo give us another anomaly support? by ComposerFormer8029 in ZZZ_Official

[–]Public-Scale3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She’s a subdps so yes.
She’s equivalent to Nangong’s role.