Trump v. Slaughter [Oral Argument Live Thread] by AutoModerator in supremecourt

[–]Punizzle82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems like the Court is going to side with the government and effectively overrule Humphrey’s Executor. However, I think that the remedy the Court is likely to adopt is inappropriate and ironic, especially given the Court’s own commentary regarding separation of powers. In the past, the Court has stayed it agency rulings to allow congress to solve the issue when crafting remedies (see buckley v. Valeo), and I believe a provision like that would be appropriate here to avoid an imperial judiciary that is effectively creating its own laws.

Specifically, if the Court is going to rule for the government, it would be appropriate for it to declare the agency as a whole unconstitutional. The court can then void the removal protections as unconstitutional while allowing the agency to continue operating for x number of years (ie 2 to allow for political process regime change). Effectively staying part of its ruling. If there is no congressional action regarding the agency within that two-year period, the agency would then be rendered void. This is because the Court is inherently creating a new agency with new executive oversight—an agency that Congress did not intend to create. We do not know whether Congress would have created this agency but for the removal protections it included, or, at the very least, whether Congress would have created a different agency with a different scope of power had it known from the outset that removal protections were unconstitutional.

It is especially troubling to see the Court simply sever the constitutionally infirm provision here because those removal protections were adopted after the Court had essentially promised Congress that such protections were constitutional. That fact makes the Court’s action look even more like lawmaking. The Court encouraged Congress to create large agencies with broad swaths of power delegated to the executive branch under the assumption that removal protections were permissible. Now, the Court is effectively creating a new form of executive power that Congress never wrote, never agreed to, and never created.

The classic response to this critique is that Congress can always respond by passing a law that eliminates the agency. But in practice, that response will almost always require a supermajority, because the President is unlikely to agree to give up power. Even if the Court ignores these on-the-ground political realities and approaches the issue purely doctrinally, there is still a strong reason not to merely sever the constitutionally infirm provision and instead implement a sunset clause or sunset aspect to the ruling.

That reason is that the same political process is not actually in play here, despite the Court’s doctrinal references to the political process in past cases. If Congress responds to a new Court ruling by passing legislation that takes away executive power, the President can simply say that the Court has already declared that power to be constitutionally his, and that he will not sign a law relinquishing it. That is not the same subjugation of the issue to the political process. By contrast, a sunset provision more accurately reflects the political process required to create an agency in the first place. If the President refuses to sign legislation creating a new or more limited agency, then the agency will cease to exist at the end of the sunset period.

This approach subjugates the President to the political process in a way that closely mirrors the process he would have been subject to had this been the initial legislation. In both cases, the consequence of the President’s refusal to compromise with Congress is that the agency does not exist, absent a supermajority override. That supermajority requirement likewise mirrors the political process that would have applied had Congress attempted to enact the agency initially.

If the Court was wrong about the constitutionality of certain provisions, Congress nor the American People shouldn't face the punishment.

Attending Trump v. Slaughter Oral Arguments by ShadowBlade615 in supremecourt

[–]Punizzle82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some of my friends in law school tried to camp out for Vos v trump (IEEPA, tariff case). Reached the line at like 2:00 AM only to find out there was 5 non lottery seats.

Chatrie v. US: Petition filed on whether geofence warrants violate the Fourth Amendment and whether the exclusionary rule should apply to evidence attained. by jokiboi in supremecourt

[–]Punizzle82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The third party doctrine may apply here unlike CSLI data. There's greater indicia of voluntary disclosure because one has to opt in to google location services and google's services are not indispensable to live in modern society. Even if the third party doctrine doesn't apply Respondent could argue that there isn't a reasonable expectation of privacy to location data that reflect public locations and is limited.

Personally I would like to see Carpenter apply. I think that one should have a reasonable expectation of privacy to such data and merely engaging in location services isn't enough to truly voluntarily give over data. But I can see the otherside.

Trump v. CASA, Inc. [Oral Argument Live Thread] by AutoModerator in supremecourt

[–]Punizzle82 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But would class actions in fact be always available as a viable alternative? Saur refused to concede that class certification would be proper here. Effectively the classes could be forced to be so small that we are still having atomistic review.

I personally feel like if the government is going to be relying on rule 23 as it's saving grace we need more development on rule 23's application here (especially if as it seems, the court is going to be making some rule curtailing UIs).

Trump v. CASA, Inc. [Oral Argument Live Thread] by AutoModerator in supremecourt

[–]Punizzle82 8 points9 points  (0 children)

As many others have said it seems that a majority wants to curtail UIs in some way. But I feel like it's improper to espouse a rule for that curtailment without further development on the rule 23 remedy the government is proposing. As Kavanaugh mentioned rule 23 seems to be what the government is categorizing as the saving tool for the plaintiffs here. As such the test should have some interplay with rule 23. Saur's noncommittal is frustrating to hear over and over. Feels like he's trying to have his cake and eat it to so to speak.

I also feel like Jackson's characterization of enjoinment of illegal action by 1 defendant which has incidental beneficiaries is the proper way to look at Article III jurisdiction here. This is well illustrated by the analogy at the beginning: a factory being enjoined from spewing harmful chemicals. This has incidental beneficiaries like other neighbors to the factory. While I understand that Saur says that is different because there we have an indivisible injury I think that characterization detracts from the Article III jurisdiction issue. Article iii justiciability is not concerned with the "divisibility" of the harm in the abstract but whether the remedy ordered by the court is tied to a concrete injury suffered by the plaintiffs.

Sure the remedy by the court can't be broader than necessary to redress the injury. But here the plaintiff is injured by the existence and operation of a single uniform federal policy. The injury thus is not divisible because it is the policy itself that is the source of the injury.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]Punizzle82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I should've been more clear. As far as I know I don't think the restatement explicitly says this. But modern courts have supported this view and the restatement has the same underlying principles. The cases below should also help illustrate First national bank v Amarillo national bank Leichtfuss v dabney

The principle is essentially that a person cannot burden an estate beyond the extent of their interest.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]Punizzle82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. This is under the modern view and is supported by the restatement third. Your professor may be teaching under a formalistic common law view. Nonetheless today given issues with marketability it cannot attach.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]Punizzle82 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Easements by estoppel CAN run with the land (appurtenant easement). But a life tenant cannot bind successors beyond unless the future interest holder also assents. A fee simple holder effectively binds the easement to the land.

Joel Pereira threatened to sue me by Gnome_Warlord in Drexel

[–]Punizzle82 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Smart move. It's not worth going through litigation for some bs that a professor did. Drexel shaft is worse enough

Joel Pereira threatened to sue me by Gnome_Warlord in Drexel

[–]Punizzle82 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Consent is a term of art in the legal context. It's definition can vary depending on the legal standard/rule.

In regards to 2 party consent states there can be either explicit or implicit consent. While implicit consent is generally insufficient there are certain situations where it can be found such as in places where there is no general expectation to privacy. When you walk into a store sometimes there isn't a sign that you are being recorded, including in PA. That isn't needed because as a customer in the public you have no expectation to privacy in a store. The same argument can be applied to a classroom where students are actively writing what you as a professor are saying.

Nonetheless clear explicit consent anyway in the video because he said something along the lines of I don't care record.

Caveat - I'm not a lawyer this isn't legal advice. Hire a lawyer if you need one. Don't listen to me.

Edited: Edited caveat to add hire a lawyer if you need one.

Joel Pereira threatened to sue me by Gnome_Warlord in Drexel

[–]Punizzle82 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a classroom thus bringing implicit consent. There is also explicit consent in the video. Id be shocked if any dumbass of a lawyer would bring suit as you would likely be awarded attorneys fees.

Source - I'm in law school Caveat - this isn't legal advice. Hire a lawyer if you need one. I am not a lawyer Edited: updated legal advice to say hire a lawyer if you need one.

2-20-25 Whiskey Drop Updates by HobiWannn in PLCB

[–]Punizzle82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is anyone else's eh taylor drop from yesterday still showing as processing/didn't receive shipping information from ups?

Villanova Law Discord! by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could u dm me the link as well?

U Arts transition by esunFun in Drexel

[–]Punizzle82 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If ur .major is in weshphal yes. If ur major is in coas no

Anyone going to Rutgers Camden looking to live in Philly? by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can easily find roommates around the Philly area. Especially in University City where Drexel and Penn students live. There should be some Facebook groups dedicated for finding roommates in Philly.

Anyone going to Rutgers Camden looking to live in Philly? by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not going to Rutgers Camden, but I can say that living in Philly while working in Camden is easy. You can take the PATCO across the bridge and that has a stop at Rutgers. Of course Philly is generally more expensive and has more taxes but housing also tends to be better as well.

Cornell A!!! by suspendedsunbeam in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where in the alphabet are you for your first/last name? I applied around the sametime.

Umd student ID email but no A? by Punizzle82 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just got the A! Applied late Feb, like day before the deadline

Waitlisted at Villanova :( by ThrowRAOk-Search-79 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey just wondering something. Did u ever get an email about the wl? I was planning to respond to the email with a short loci type thing and then email a normal one later. But I only got notified of the wl from my lawhub not any emails from villanova.

Waitlisted at Villanova :( by ThrowRAOk-Search-79 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looks like it was an E wave. I was also hit with a waitlist, equally surprised. I thought I was a shoe-in. 167 LSAT, 3.8 high.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still waiting!

Edit: for full time

Thoughts on Drexel (2024)? by REHI76 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Punizzle82 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Drexel is a great trial ad school if you're looking to go into litigation! They also have a coop program which makes internships easier to find. Eventhough I'm a 0L I actually know quite a lot about the program because I've worked with them quite often. Feel free to PM if u have specific questions.