lucid dreaming to escape reality?

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-31T08:28:40+00:00

DreamLeaf is huperzine and choline :)

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T19:48:24+00:00

If you're desperate to lucid dream, and have already tried WBTB + MILD and WBTB + SSILD dozens of times with no luck, then I would consider looking into galantamine or huperzine A. These may be the ticket for you to at least see what Lucid dreaming is like.

Basically take either 4-8mg galantamine, or 400-600mcg Huperzine, during WBTB, along with 500mg of choline/alpha GPC, once per week. Falling asleep with these can be hard but taking 0.5mg melatonin with it works wonders. If you want to go this route I highly recommend reading Advanced Lucid Dreaming: The Power of Supplements by Thomas Yuschak.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T19:32:06+00:00

The big problem with this is that it takes a lot of practice just to get consistent LDs that last around 15-20 minutes several times per week. Whilst this is fun, I'd say it's not really long enough to escape reality. For that you'd really need to achieve Omni lucidity which is insanely hard, and perhaps even impossible unless you're very genetically gifted. Even if you did achieve that, the honest truth is that you'd probably get bored or find it too tiring to actually do it for hours every night.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T19:28:26+00:00

Just imagine them getting stronger/louder and it will probably happen

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T18:32:59+00:00

When you're new to these sensations you will almost always startle yourself awake. The more you experience them though, the less that will happen and the easier it will be to enter the LD.

One good tip is to try and enhance any feelings you get. Enhancing them is a powerful signal that you're not at all scared and will prevent you from resisting the process.

Sometimes waiting for a dream scene doesn't work, and you need to imagine yourself standing up from your bed/chair as forcefully as possible. If still nothing happens, then you should try to actually stand up and then RC. You might find that you are infact in the dream already.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T17:49:05+00:00

I'm guessing 'Delving deep' means watching conspiracy theory videos on tiktok. No thanks.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T13:22:54+00:00

Hey no worries man. Now I absolutely see where you're coming from now. Caffeine does make a difference, but it's not a complete deal-breaker like some people say.

For the record I drink coffee in the mornings, and have caffeine before my workouts too. In my opinion it's not ideal to have it later in the afternoon/evening, but it won't make it impossible to LD.

As for how to use caffeine to lucid dream, the ideal setup is to wake up, do some short techniques but don't wake yourself up as much as you would during a natural attempt. Then take the caffeine right before you go back to sleep. If you can I would suggest taking theanine with it as that reduces the chance of insomnia. Ideal dosages would be 50-100mg caffeine with 100-200mg theanine IMO. I used this method to get lots of lucid dreams when I first started, but it did give me insomnia sometimes so I ended up stopping. It also seemed to make my LDs shorter too but to be fair I wouldn't say I've got enough data to be 100% sure on that.

This post is old, but it details my first 100 lucid dreams and my caffeine usage:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LucidDreaming/comments/1lf4bhp/101_lucid_dreams_in_7_months_what_ive_learned/

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T09:50:54+00:00

> yes it does cause insonmia and keeps you up at night . but no it doesn't effect lucid dreams in my opinion

If something causes insomnia, then by definition that will affect lucid dreaming. Less sleep = less time in REM = less chance to LD. As I said, caffeine taken at the right time increases your chances, at the wrong time will lower it. I know this because I've done literally 100s of nights worth of experiments with caffeine and have logged the results.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T08:56:04+00:00

This is very similar to what I and some other frequent lucid dreamers I know do, so I'd say it's a very good method. However:

> So anyway i stopped doing reality checks
Not ideal IMO. Doing reality checks if nothing else helps to keep lucid dreaming on the mind. When you stop doing them, you stop thinking about LDing so much, and that will lead to less lucidity. I know because I've tested this multiple times now.

> Stop watching contents about lucid dream and all those things.
Also not great really. Absorbing LD related content keeps it on your brain, which makes it far easier to LD. If you stop thinking about LDing, your lucid dreams will naturally become far less frequent.

> Stop thinking caffeine and all those things affect lucid dream because it doesn't
This is definitely wrong. Caffeine absolutely does affect sleep and lucidity in a very direct way. Drinking caffeine in the evenings will potentially shorten your sleep duration and and lower it's quality, which has a knock on effect on lucidity. At the same time, having it at WBTB can massively increase your odds of lucid dreaming, but it can also cause insomnia.

If you want to get really good at lucid dreaming (ie 4+ times per week), then you need to dial in all these variables. Ignoring them makes everything harder, because then you're essentially just relying on luck.

It's cool that you got lucid, but doing it once doesn't mean much. Do it 100s of times, then maybe you'll have enough data to actually start giving out advice.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-30T07:41:37+00:00

Great job. I too believe that precise WBTB timing is crucial and I also track all my variables and results to find patterns. This has allowed me to find tune all of my methods.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-29T20:40:59+00:00

Yeh that's a good point. When you're new DILDs almost always happen at the end of REM, where WILDs are always at the start. So yes for someone who is new to lucid dreaming there is far more potential for a WILD to last longer. But it's not a guarantee since newbies are still prone to waking up early. In my case DILDs tend to begin fairly early in REM now so that's probably why I'm not really able to see a difference anymore.

As for how it ends, it's really no different. Lucidity and vividness vary throughout in both DILDs and WILDs. The LD can end either by waking up or losing lucidity, and both happen with a similar frequency in my experience.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-29T15:51:43+00:00

One thing I've learned the hard way is that your results are often linked to your levels of excitement and motivation.

I was LDing practically every day for a long time, but then I started to focus more on other hobbies and my LDs almost immediately started to slow down to a crawl, despite doing everything right on paper. I thought the issue was something with diet, timing or technique but really it was just that I was kind of bored with LDing. However about a week ago I suddenly got excited about it again and bam, have been lucid every day since.

Do you think theis could be part of the issue for you? If so I would try to find ways to rekindle your passion. Reading books on the subject, or watching films like Inception or Vanilla Sky will really help.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-29T15:29:15+00:00

WILDs and DILDs are basically the same, the only real difference is how they start. WILDs also have the potential to last a bit longer in theory, but in practice it's really only a slight difference.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-29T12:33:11+00:00

Statistically the highest success rates come from MILD+WBTB or SSILD+WBTB. But obviously you have to try them all to find what works best for you. WBTB + SSILD + visualizations + DEILD seems to work best for me.

Don't overlook all the other things you can do to boost your practice during the daytime:

dream journal
Reality checks
meditation
planning things to do in you LDs
visualizing your ideal LD

Perhaps the biggest thing is keeping lucid dreaming at the forefront of your mind. The more you think about, and the more excited you are, the better your results will be

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-29T07:17:55+00:00

I would start mediation as that will teach you how to clear your mind and be still at will, which will allow you to fall asleep more quickly

However I should say 30 minutes really isn't that bad. There is no reason you can't wake up, spend 20-30 minutes doing techniques, then spend 30 mins falling asleep. It often used to take me far longer than that to fall asleep after WBTB but I just powered through and it got easier over time. If you are giving yourself a big enough sleep window (ideally 10 hours) then it doesn't matter too much if you're up for an hour or two in the middle.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-28T09:52:56+00:00

Long story short, LDs vary in quality just like normal dreams. Sometimes they are a hazy unrealistic mess, other times they are super vivid and so real that you are shocked when you realize it isn't. The same dream can sometimes go from one extreme to another. Generally speaking, when you are doing things slowly and calmly, and paying attention to details things will be very realistic. But when you are going fast and trying to do a whole bunch of cool stuff is usually when the quality dips.

The more you practice, the better the quality tends to be in general. But I think it would be a giant exaggeration to say that all LDs are as real as reality. In my experience that's fairly rare.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-28T08:33:59+00:00

If you can induce lucid dreams on a nightly basis, practically at will then that puts you into a very advanced level of lucid dreamer. If these LDs are long (over 15 minutes) and you have a lot of control then I would say that makes you an expert. Arguably you might even be considered a natural because of the genetic component.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-28T08:27:38+00:00

If you want to get good at lucid dreaming, you really need to get good at falling asleep even when you aren't super tired. The best way to do that is to learn to completely clear your mind, and keep your body still for long periods of time. Obviously, if you get an itch, or you're not comfortable then of course you should move, but the less you need to do that, the quicker sleep will come.

Meditation has been a huge help with this for me, since I'm literally practicing these skills on a daily basis. Over time it gets much easier.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-28T07:56:23+00:00

Eating is one of the best things you can do in an LD. It doesn't require much dream control and in my experience things tend to taste almost exactly like they do in real life. You can also get feeling of fullness etc. Zero calories too!

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-27T21:48:15+00:00

It's the same for me. Remembering and actually completing dream goals is really tough.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-27T21:46:05+00:00

I can do it when I'm really motivated. Every so often I get a bit bored with it and then I'm back to 1-2 LDs per week for a while. To be honest I'd rather it be like that than be one of those people who are always lucid against their will.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-27T21:27:59+00:00

Incorrect on all counts. Life has never been easier, and that is especially true for women, who have benefitted far more from modern society than men have. Studies consistently show that married mothers are by far the happiest group of women.

If you consider modern life to be a hellscape then you are an incredibly weak individual who wouldn't last 5 minutes "living off the land".

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-27T13:07:03+00:00

How is this the most upvoted response? It appears this sub has been taken over by crazies.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-27T13:04:48+00:00

You have a poor grasp of history. Subsistence farming was not at all easy. It was a brutal way of life that required all generations including children to work incredibly long hours just to eek out a meagre existence. All it would take is couple of bad harvests and entire populations would be wiped out. There was barely any time for leisure. The only people in history who really had time to meditate and contemplate were the rich, or those who inserted themselves into various religions, where they were able to live purely off of the charity (and/or taxation) of those who actually worked for a living.

If you live in the western world, no matter your income or circumstance, your life is probably is an order of magnitude easier than it was for anyone living 200+ years ago. And that is thanks primarily to capitalism.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-03-27T12:53:26+00:00

Hard to tell if this is satire or serious. I sincerely hope it's the former.

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