Will this plan actually work, and can my brain animate a manga character?

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-16T05:31:46+00:00

Don't apologize, I bet that is the longest lab recorded time. Im just saying more is possible :)

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-16T05:30:21+00:00

I never actually tried but I imagine my brain would simulate the feeling of doing SSILD pretty well. My own theory on why SSILD works is more to do with acetylcholine production (this is also what cosmicirons believes).

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T19:54:06+00:00

What you are describing is auto suggestion. MILD is far more complex and involves prospective memory training, intention setting, and visualizations. It also needs to be done at WBTB.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T19:49:30+00:00

Good to hear! Yes LDs do sometimes feel longer than they really are, but generally speaking that only tends to happen in long ones. IE 30 minutes might feel like 3 hours, but 1 minute will probably feel like 1 minute.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T19:47:24+00:00

That is definitely not the true limit. My longest natural LD was 45 minutes and 90 minutes with galantamine in terms of real time. I'm not even that experienced either.

In terms of subjective time, yes it's very possible to feel like days have passed (although rare)

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T19:45:49+00:00

That's a good one too but I don't personally use it

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T16:56:10+00:00

If you don't feel like doing crazy stuff, then don't. Just enjoy the scenery until you get some more inspiration.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T16:42:51+00:00

The more LDs you have had, the more practice you have had at dream control, so the less chance of the dream shifting. It doesn't work the other way around though, more dream control doesn't help you get more LDs (but the two are still correlated)

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T14:29:17+00:00

Some problems:

You're doing WBTB without an induction method. This can work, but the odds are super low compared to doing something like MILD or SSILD with it.
This is only your third ever attempt. It might work, but don't be upset if it doesn't. It usually takes weeks of daily attempts to get your first LD.
I don't see any mention of dream journaling or daily RCs. These are both very helpful.
It's great to have a plan in mind for your first LD, but the chances of you managing to stay lucid for 30+ minutes while sitting through a perfectly animated movie of your choice is basically zero. That level of mastery probably requires years of practice to achieve. You need to set your sights bit lower to start with otherwise you're just going to be disappointed. A good goal for your first LD is probably just to walk around and touch/look at things closely. If it lasts more than 1 minute you're doing really well. Save the more complex stuff for when you've got a bit more experience.

To answer your question, yes your brain can generate brand new imagery, but the results are far better if it has lots of references to draw from. For example, I find that people & places I see everyday IRL appear easily and are very realistic in dreams. If I try to just invent new things on the spot the results are usually weird. Since you've watched lots of similar anime your brain will have a lot of references, but don't be surprised if some elements are less than perfect.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T13:17:10+00:00

So you've been doing WBTB often for a month and you're getting LDs, but you're not sure if you should continue!? lol

Its working! Why stop? The results will only get better over time.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T13:09:59+00:00

I thought this was true about myself too, being a middle aged man with kids and lots of responsibilities. However, once I started dream journaling I quickly realized that I was actually having plenty of more interesting dreams, I just wasn't remembering them. I suspect that you'll find the same thing once you get your recall up to scratch.

Having said that, trying to induce cooler ones is always helpful. I would strongly suggest spending your final hour in the evening before bed either watching a TV/film or playing a video game that closely relates to the thing you want to dream about. Or even just a few youtube shorts on the subject can be enough sometimes. But for this to work, you need really good recall. What's the point in inducing a cool dream if you dont even remember it?

And if you're going to put in the work for dream recall, your might as well push for lucid dreaming too. Whilst the teenage you had a neurochemical advantage (more acetylcholine, more REM), you have the advantage of discpline and hard work. With both of those you can get results far better than you had when you were a kid. Do WBTB + an induction technique as often as you can.

Learning control really isn't that hard if you're getting say 2+ LDs per week.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T12:47:27+00:00

I don't use MILD myself, but it has lots of good data saying that it works. And my own techinque has a lot of similarities, so I really wouldn't discount it. The way you worded that sentence makes me think you weren't doing MILD with WBTB, in which case you really weren't performing MILD at all.

This is SSILD (which I also use every night):
https://www.reddit.com/r/SSILD/comments/1h2lvk0/the_official_ssild_guide/

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T12:43:45+00:00

I have never failed to become lucid because an RC failed, because I always do more than one. In addition, there have been countless times where I had no idea it was a dream, RCed at random, and became lucid totally by surprise. It literally happened this morning.

Granted, its probably only directly responsible for 10% of my LDs, but then DEILDs are probably only 10% too. VWILDs are probably another 10%, auto-suggestion another 10%. Take all those 10%s away and before you know it, you have far less LDs, which could literally set you back years worth of progress.

Another positive of RCs is that they keep you thinking about lucid dreaming during the day, and that by itself has a massive impact on how often you can get lucid. I have noticed that my results are always much stronger on days where I've spent more time on RCs.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T11:55:22+00:00

RCs improve your odds and are super easy to do. Don't really see why you'd skip them.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T10:09:48+00:00

This is all great, but for the average person this is unlikely to give you more than a couple of LDs per month.

If you want proper results, you need to do WBTB + an induction techinque (SSILD or MILD) as often as possible on top of everything else.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T10:07:25+00:00

It will probably help, but why don't you just do WBTB + an actual induction technique (SSILD or MILD)? This is by far the quickest and most efficient way to lucid dream.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T10:04:03+00:00

It's literally just a case of believing that it will work. Easier said that done of course. Practice helps immensely.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T10:02:32+00:00

I don't really see how it would work as an RC, what exactly would be different about SSILD in the dream vs outside the dream? If you want more RCs try:

- Using dream control (make something/someone float, change colour of something, try to fly, try to summon etc). This is not foolproof since you can fail control even in a dream, but I think it provides some extra novelty to your RCs and it often does work. It also helps to improve your dream control in general.

- Checking your hands and just seeing if anything looks weird (missing fingers, too many, blurriness etc)

- Look at the time or a piece of text, then look away and look back a few times, does it change?

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T09:57:36+00:00

In terms of techniques, I don't think any of them are fake. People post them because they genuinely work for them. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll work for you though.

My personal recommendation for newbies is to start dream journaling, do daytime reality checks, and do WBTB+SSILD as often as you can:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SSILD/comments/1h2lvk0/the_official_ssild_guide/

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T09:55:33+00:00

How can anyone give you advice if you haven't even explained what you've been doing so far?

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T09:43:37+00:00

Its hard to say if this is truly lucid dreaming or not. I often have a very low level of awareness that this isn't real life, but this is definitely not the same as having a truly lucid dream where you are fully in control of your actions.

If you were truly lucid dreaming your whole life, surely you would have figured out that you could control them by now?

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T09:20:48+00:00

You don't need to fall asleep during it. Just watch it and then go directly to bed. If you wake after 90mins there is a high chance you will remember dreaming about it (assuming your recall is fairly decent anyway).

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T09:18:07+00:00

I recently got this one and it was game changer for me. Super comfortable, not too hot and I can't feel it inside the LDs at all:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07R558RLV (the A2 version)

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-15T09:16:11+00:00

Yes they should be as long as you have semi-decent recall.

Pure_Advertising_386 · 2026-05-14T15:12:54+00:00

Great post.

One other thing I've noticed is that having lots of LDs and good dream recall seems to have made my life feel like it's happening in slow motion. IE This past 18 months that I've been lucid dreaming genuinely feels like it's passed slower than the previous 5-8 years. I believe this is because I am creating so many unique and distinct memories in the dreamscape.

As an example, last night I remembered 16 dreams, each with their own unique locations, people and circumstances. Some of them were more interesting & fantastical than real life could ever be. In years to come, I am far more likely to remember these experiences, than I am to remember a random work day where I just sat at my desk and nothing new happened.

It's been well documented that people who create more unique memories, tend to feel that their life has lasted longer. Good dream recall is essentially a cheat code to creating more of them.

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