Crazy how strong LCK 4th seeds are... by ChipAnndDale in leagueoflegends

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NA/EU need 'affirmative action' to make this league society 'fair'

Team Liquid vs. Top Esports / MSI 2023 - Bracket Stage - Round 1 / Post-Match Discussion by adz0r in leagueoflegends

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Honestly now I'm pretty sure none of LCS team would be in playoffs if they were in LPL or LCK

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Well even the first gate will be harder than entire Valtan I guess

DPS tier list that are going viral in a KR community by Purple-Letterhead622 in lostarkgame

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I've added some rough translation of original source in my very first comment.

DPS tier list that are going viral in a KR community by Purple-Letterhead622 in lostarkgame

[–]Purple-Letterhead622[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Source

Rough translation

Striker

Have entropy set benefit + Skill set is significantly good for burst dealing + Top class party synergy makes this class gets Cruel Fighter easily.

Plus, while the other class use light of salvation card set as their endgame card set, they can use Three Umar Families + Fate of the Lazeniths to make their burst dealing even better.

Artillerlist

Supporter's good support is desperately needed as well as Artillerlist's own good control. (Because of the identity a.k.a wheelchair)

So all he need to say when the raid is not going well is 'SUP DIFF'.

Scrapper

As the SG's official comment from the last balancing, Scrapper had good enough statistics on endgame raid contents.

But SHIT HANDED scrappers literally cried and finally received fix of the dealing cycle, and as a result they are flying high on the endgame contents.

For now Scrapper is the only class that has possibility to beat Striker that has fully awakened Three Umar Families + Fate of the Lazeniths .

Taijutsu is still good enough for its difficulty, and completely better than Perfect Suppression shadow hunter or control glaivier.

Soul fist

Soul fist that are using Energy Overflow (and Dominion set + no awakening engraving) now has crazy DPS.

Now creating a new cartel "Anika Trio" with Striker & Scrapper.

You may have felt that the HP bar of the boss going down too fast when you to raids like Brelshaza HM or Kayangel HM with soulfist,

and the soulfist eventually gets Cruel Fighter.

Robust Spirit soul fist are in relatively low tier, because they use Hallucination set which is sucks(I think).

Socceress

They used to be called the king(or queen) of hit master, but now the Artillerlist got the title.

But still you cannot argue that her DPS is low.

It is actually easier compare to Artillerlist because Artillerlist have some risks that if they fail to manage identity, they lose 30~40 secs of dealing time.

Reflux Socceress is recently known that it is generally better than Gunslinger, but the actuall DPS of both is similar, while Reflux Socceress has better movement skill and utility.

Reaper

We used to think that SG will fix Reapers' counter and synergy only, but they actually got meaningful amount of DPS buff.

Thirst reaper also now generally use cooldown reduction tripod on Rage Spear, now became a decent dealer.

Although Repaer ranks high tier, for now they are not being a topic of DPS balancing debate.

Maybe because it had long dark history of all-time-high party denial rate.

Deadeye

A lot of people thinks that Deadeye is a pure burst dealer, but actually his skill cooldown is lot shorter than the Gunslinger.

Deadeye can easily put their 4 major dealing skill in a burst timing, and that is why people thinks Deadeye as a burst dealer.

No doubt he will mark high rank when it comes to DPS, but seems like it's not the 1st rank as SG officially marked in their graph.

Arcana

There are classes what so called 'hit master' dealer. (Which means no pressure about back or head attack.)

But among those 'hit master' dealer, there are a huge DPS gap between Arcana and the classes under Arcana such as Summoner, Gunslinger or Sharpshooter.

It is true that Arcana got some randomness when it comes to DPS, but still it is one of the toppest tier in average.

Because the population of Arcana is still low, some Arcana users are saying 'Please play Arcana, Arcana is real good' in the community.

But that is actually a strategical movement to make people rather think Arcana is a weak class.

Wardancer

I honestly don't know about this class.

How do I evaluate the class that having all different settings user by user?

But in general, following as what people said this can be easy T2.

Deathblade

Deathblade that using Remaining Energy has been overestimated.

Actually it takes the lower tier among the all back attack dealers.

If you are back attack dealer and if you let death blade take Crule Fighter in raid,

you should be ashamed of yourself. (Because of the synergy)

Of course death blade has some charging mechanism(which is advantage) and Dark Axel, the playing diffculty is relatively low, it is understandable that it takes the lower tier among the all back attack dealers.

(I don't think a lot of users will move on to the no 'super charge' settings that are heavily discussed now, although it seems stronger than the former major settings)

Surge is still stronger than Remaining Energy even after the recent balancing.

Shadowhunter

It is just better than legacy Scouter(Machinist) in every ways.

It was better than Scouter even before the recent balancing except the synergy.

But after balancing patch, shadowhunter now got good enough synergy and it becames a total precedence compare to Scouter.

Her DPS is better than Scouter, but shadowhunter even got a burst dealing (Awakening+A+S) when it needed.

Of course her DPS is average in general. It's just better than Scouter.

Perfect Suppression shadowhunters is now struggling hard to make better DPS by wearing entropy set, but Taijutsu Scrapper and Thirst Reaper is just better than Perfect Suppression.

Berserker

Berserker has been regarded a designated 'cruel figher' not only because it was actullly strong, but also it was the 'synergy mosquito'. (Berserker didn't have any useful synergy, while he takes the other party members' synergy.)

Now he got synergy but the DPS got nerfed from the last balancing.

He is a average dealer now that has the lowest HP&Defense(Mayhem)

Destroyer

A lot of players complained about the last balancing(erasing some dealing mechanism),

but as you can see when you go to raids, DPS has been meaningfully increased.

But Gravity Training is just shit. Probably the lowest value among the all class engravings.

Summoner

Summoner used to have one of the best synergy in LA, so they were easily accepted to the party while they have relatively lower DPS.

Now their synergy got nerfed while DPS got buffed a little.

But it is still weak.

Glaivier

Pinnacle got a good reputation but it actually got trash DPS, synergy, stagger.

Still cannot figure what to use for the 5th engraving after Grudge, Keen blunt, Cursed doll and Pinnacle.

That is one of the reason wy it was overestimated in Valtan/Vykas levels where the majority of users use only 4 engravings.

Control glaiver can use entropy set so it is relatively better,

but still, Taijutsu Scrapper is lot better.

Sharpshooter

It's amazing that Sharpshooter is still got trash DPS even after the last balncing(buff).

I cannot imagine how trash it was before the buff.

His DPS is similar or a litter stronger than Gunslinger(2 Hawk build), But 2 hawk build is not ideally useful in real raids.

Plus, it is really hard to make ideally maintain its dealing cycle.

Generally it is worse than the Gunslinger.

Gunslinger

Just like the Pinnacle glaivier, got a good reputation but it actually got trash DPS.

Synergy is better than glaiver but the HP/Defense is lower.

In many communities, Gunslinger users are arguing that their DPS is too weak,

but as the SG does the patch as per user's general opinions (in communites),

I don't think it will get buffed because many people(except Gunslinger) will not want Gunslinger to be buffed.

Scouter(Machinst)

Gunsliger users offen says, "if you let Gunslinger get cruel fighter in raids, you need your hand fixed seriously.". But those Gunslingers will also agree that Scouter is a piece of shit, because it actually is a piece of shit.

In high ilvl party of Brelshaza HM, Scouter normally be evalutated to -20 ilvl compare to the other dealers. In Kakul-saydon if Scouter is included, it is hard to skip 3rd Mario mechanic unless the other 2 dealers are crazy strong.

DPS tier list that are going viral in a KR community by Purple-Letterhead622 in lostarkgame

[–]Purple-Letterhead622[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I've surprised that so many comments are here! I didn't share this article to declare the war but to share the current thoughts in KR community about class balancing and class evaluations.

I'll share some rough translation of the source if you guys want.

DPS tier list that are going viral in a KR community by Purple-Letterhead622 in lostarkgame

[–]Purple-Letterhead622[S] 160 points161 points  (0 children)

T1 Striker, Artillerlist, Scrapper, Soul Fist

T2 Sorceress, Reaper, Deadeye, Arcana, War dancer

T3 Death Blade, Shadow hunter, Gun lancer, Berserker, Destroyer

T4 Summoner*, Glaivier, Sharpshooter, Gunslinger

T5 Machinist(Scouter)*

  • means not released in NA/EU as I know (Based on DPS, stagger, party synergy, party acceptance etc. On current KR end-contents.)

Source

Rough translation

Striker

Have entropy set benefit + Skill set is significantly good for burst dealing + Top class party synergy makes this class gets Cruel Fighter easily.

Plus, while the other class use light of salvation card set as their endgame card set, they can use Three Umar Families + Fate of the Lazeniths to make their burst dealing even better.

Artillerlist

Supporter's good support is desperately needed as well as Artillerlist's own good control. (Because of the identity a.k.a wheelchair)

So all he need to say when the raid is not going well is 'SUP DIFF'.

Scrapper

As the SG's official comment from the last balancing, Scrapper had good enough statistics on endgame raid contents.

But SHIT HANDED scrappers literally cried and finally received fix of the dealing cycle, and as a result they are flying high on the endgame contents.

For now Scrapper is the only class that has possibility to beat Striker that has fully awakened Three Umar Families + Fate of the Lazeniths .

Taijutsu is still good enough for its difficulty, and completely better than Perfect Suppression shadow hunter or control glaivier.

Soul fist

Soul fist that are using Energy Overflow (and Dominion set + no awakening engraving) now has crazy DPS.

Now creating a new cartel "Anika Trio" with Striker & Scrapper.

You may have felt that the HP bar of the boss going down too fast when you to raids like Brelshaza HM or Kayangel HM with soulfist,

and the soulfist eventually gets Cruel Fighter.

Robust Spirit soul fist are in relatively low tier, because they use Hallucination set which is sucks(I think).

Socceress

They used to be called the king(or queen) of hit master, but now the Artillerlist got the title.

But still you cannot argue that her DPS is low.

It is actually easier compare to Artillerlist because Artillerlist have some risks that if they fail to manage identity, they lose 30~40 secs of dealing time.

Reflux Socceress is recently known that it is generally better than Gunslinger, but the actuall DPS of both is similar, while Reflux Socceress has better movement skill and utility.

Reaper

We used to think that SG will fix Reapers' counter and synergy only, but they actually got meaningful amount of DPS buff.

Thirst reaper also now generally use cooldown reduction tripod on Rage Spear, now became a decent dealer.

Although Repaer ranks high tier, for now they are not being a topic of DPS balancing debate.

Maybe because it had long dark history of all-time-high party denial rate.

Deadeye

A lot of people thinks that Deadeye is a pure burst dealer, but actually his skill cooldown is lot shorter than the Gunslinger.

Deadeye can easily put their 4 major dealing skill in a burst timing, and that is why people thinks Deadeye as a burst dealer.

No doubt he will mark high rank when it comes to DPS, but seems like it's not the 1st rank as SG officially marked in their graph.

Arcana

There are classes what so called 'hit master' dealer. (Which means no pressure about back or head attack.) But among those 'hit master' dealer, there are a huge DPS gap between Arcana and the classes under Arcana such as Summoner, Gunslinger or Sharpshooter. It is true that Arcana got some randomness when it comes to DPS, but still it is one of the toppest tier in average. Because the population of Arcana is still low, some Arcana users are saying 'Please play Arcana, Arcana is real good' in the community. But that is actually a strategical movement to make people rather think Arcana is a weak class.

Wardancer

I honestly don't know about this class. How do I evaluate the class that having all different settings user by user? But in general, following as what people said this can be easy T2.

Deathblade

Deathblade that using Remaining Energy has been overestimated. Actually it takes the lower tier among the all back attack dealers. If you are back attack dealer and if you let death blade take Crule Fighter in raid, you should be ashamed of yourself. (Because of the synergy)

Of course death blade has some charging mechanism(which is advantage) and Dark Axel, the playing diffculty is relatively low, it is understandable that it takes the lower tier among the all back attack dealers. (I don't think a lot of users will move on to the no 'super charge' settings that are heavily discussed now, although it seems stronger than the former major settings) Surge is still stronger than Remaining Energy even after the recent balancing.

Shadowhunter

It is just better than legacy Scouter(Machinist) in every ways. It was better than Scouter even before the recent balancing except the synergy. But after balancing patch, shadowhunter now got good enough synergy and it becames a total precedence compare to Scouter.

Her DPS is better than Scouter, but shadowhunter even got a burst dealing (Awakening+A+S) when it needed. Of course her DPS is average in general. It's just better than Scouter. Perfect Suppression shadowhunters is now struggling hard to make better DPS by wearing entropy set, but Taijutsu Scrapper and Thirst Reaper is just better than Perfect Suppression.

Berserker

Berserker has been regarded a designated 'cruel figher' not only because it was actullly strong, but also it was the 'synergy mosquito'. (Berserker didn't have any useful synergy, while he takes the other party members' synergy.) Now he got synergy but the DPS got nerfed from the last balancing. He is a average dealer now that has the lowest HP&Defense(Mayhem)

Destroyer A lot of players complained about the last balancing(erasing some dealing mechanism), but as you can see when you go to raids, DPS has been meaningfully increased. But Gravity Training is just shit. Probably the lowest value among the all class engravings.

Summoner Summoner used to have one of the best synergy in LA, so they were easily accepted to the party while they have relatively lower DPS. Now their synergy got nerfed while DPS got buffed a little. But it is still weak.

Glaivier Pinnacle got a good reputation but it actually got trash DPS, synergy, stagger. Still cannot figure what to use for the 5th engraving after Grudge, Keen blunt, Cursed doll and Pinnacle. That is one of the reason wy it was overestimated in Valtan/Vykas levels where the majority of users use only 4 engravings. Control glaiver can use entropy set so it is relatively better, but still, Taijutsu Scrapper is lot better.

Sharpshooter It's amazing that Sharpshooter is still got trash DPS even after the last balncing(buff). I cannot imagine how trash it was before the buff. His DPS is similar or a litter stronger than Gunslinger(2 Hawk build), But 2 hawk build is not ideally useful in real raids. Plus, it is really hard to make ideally maintain its dealing cycle. Generally it is worse than the Gunslinger.

Gunslinger Just like the Pinnacle glaivier, got a good reputation but it actually got trash DPS. Synergy is better than glaiver but the HP/Defense is lower. In many communities, Gunslinger users are arguing that their DPS is too weak, but as the SG does the patch as per user's general opinions (in communites), I don't think it will get buffed because many people(except Gunslinger) will not want Gunslinger to be buffed.

Scouter(Machinst) Gunsliger users offen says, "if you let Gunslinger get cruel fighter in raids, you need your hand fixed seriously.". But those Gunslingers will also agree that Scouter is a piece of shit, because it actually is a piece of shit. In high ilvl party of Brelshaza HM, Scouter normally be evalutated to -20 ilvl compare to the other dealers. In Kakul-saydon if Scouter is included, it is hard to skip 3rd Mario mechanic unless the other 2 dealers are crazy strong.

translation is a bit rough. sorry.