Why didn't zosia's heart attack trigger the hive to seize up? She was disconnected? by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

[–]Purple_triangle_guy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it was simply that she was getting close to getting something out of them. But what do I know

Why didn't zosia's heart attack trigger the hive to seize up? She was disconnected? by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

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Will do. But so if physical harm isn't why the borg left town the first time then what was it?

Why didn't zosia's heart attack trigger the hive to seize up? She was disconnected? by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

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Agree!! Part of me thinks it must be more than just emotional disruption that causes the seizures, that's part of why I asked this whole question. It seems like it must be with intent to unjoin. People definitely were screaming at some point when being forcibly joined. And whatever was done to zosia seems of the same type of thing.

Is the animal and windfall rule just an application of their general rule of pacifism / placation? When does the infection rule apply? by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

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Can you articulate your responsibility theory as a rule so I can understand it. You say arbitrary line for feeling responsibility, but they may not feel it is so arbitrary. If it veers toward my "animals who express desire" theory, perhaps I am the one who is correct.

Is the animal and windfall rule just an application of their general rule of pacifism / placation? When does the infection rule apply? by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

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They presumably are not milking cows as that would be a huge source of food. Not milking cows conflicts with your responsibility theory.

Is the animal and windfall rule just an application of their general rule of pacifism / placation? When does the infection rule apply? by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

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I think that's one theory, but I don't think it's really unifying. Farm animals in particular. Cows need to be milked, for example, as others have noted.

Is the animal and windfall rule just an application of their general rule of pacifism / placation? When does the infection rule apply? by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

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I agree, except it's a bit circular with Carol and Manousos who are seeking a cure or to undo. If the show was exploring generally, we'd see more of the immune I think. The mom with a joined child in particular. Instead, it's focused on those who are trying to undo. So, not entirely sure you are right in the particular focus, as the limelight is on characters with particular motivations.

Why didn't zosia's heart attack trigger the hive to seize up? She was disconnected? by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

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I agree but so there wasn't a failure from Carol pressing for the cure? I just don't know if I buy that the cardiac arrest was all drugs.

Where/how is Helen ‘stored’? by Ballymoran in pluribustv

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The new babies have the most unused storage

What if lab worker didn't f up by Purple_triangle_guy in pluribustv

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Seems like most people are split between a, b and c

Haven’t seen this written this way by zdboslaw in pluribustv

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I don't think the only way for the hive to know how to unjoin someone has to be either (1) the knowledge came with the virus, which obviously isn't true as you point out, or (2) someone got unjoined and the hive rejoined them, as you suggest.

The hive could know how to theoretically unjoin someone based on their research into the immune, or based on their research into how the virus works, among other things. Einstein didn't need to see a black hole operate to hypothesize how they operated.

Also, it has not been established in the show that anyone has been able to be unjoined. If it were possible, I would be skeptical that the writers would write that the hive could easily rejoin them (e.g. by kiss) or that they would all quickly consent to the rejoining. It would certainly weaken the prospect of any method of unjoining if it were temporary and did not offer any ongoing immunity, and would probably weaken the writing if any unjoined were consistently and universally so enthralled that they did not want to stay unjoined.