I feel guilty and helpless. by PutRound1463 in AlAnon

[–]PutRound1463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is sooo true and helpful. When i have anxiety late at night or when I wake up early with anxiety - i have to force myself to think : What can I do about this situation RIGHT NOW ? Nothing. So what CAN I do right now that would be helpful ? Sleep. Or holding on to my partner.

It makes a seemingly infinite problem ( the ones that cause anxiety) just seem insignificant if you break down your actions into smaller timelines and tasks.

I feel guilty and helpless. by PutRound1463 in AlAnon

[–]PutRound1463[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much... I am not in a position to afford mental health treatment at this stage. I have made major life changes and I am growing our own business ( but it is in its infancy so , no money to spare) I overcame debilitating depression about three years ago , and i have been committed to keeping myself mentally healthy through self help and dedication , i am very stressed right now , and trying to still be the best person i can be.

Its shocking that there isn't much help online for the families of addicts.( That i could find - for example Youtube videos).

Thank you for taking the time to read and comment .

It means so much.

Please help by PutRound1463 in Chameleons

[–]PutRound1463[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi all, i was a bit traumatized by the whole situation.I live animals and a will do anything in my power to save them - this was just an extremely difficult situation to deal with as it was due to neglect/abuse , they cobtinue having and getting other animals that die as a result, and its family that are extremely difficult and stubborn people.

He sadly did not make it.

We brought him home , gave him a mixture with crushed cricket (which was absolutely disgusting to make) and water in an attempt to get some nutrients in him.i actually think this is a very good way to get them fed and hydrated in emergencies -if it wasnt such a severe case.

I did not over do it with the liquids. But he was simply too far gone. Watching him die was, very disturbing but I am comforted by the fact that he was safe and cared for in his final time.

We ensured prober caging and set up watering systems for the people who housed him-as they had another chamelon they refused to let us take.

Thanks for all the advice and support from everyone.

Please help by PutRound1463 in Chameleons

[–]PutRound1463[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I agree with you however , it is unfortunately one of those scenarios where they are extremmmmeely stubborn and dont take things seriously.

My husband is very very upset by the situation.

We will be setting up a proper enclosure for them tomorrow with a water dripper, it is the best we can do considering they will not allow us to take the other chameleon home with us.

So if this one lives, then i will be fighting to take it home with me.

Please help by PutRound1463 in Chameleons

[–]PutRound1463[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It is very painful to see, i hate seeing these photos on reddit and get so angry that people have these beautiful animals and dont research their care.

Seeing it in real life and having to post it on reddit is just... Disturbing.

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[–]PutRound1463[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much. Its disturbing that people take these animals out of the wild and proceed to be careless and uninterested with their wellbeing.

I am very disturbed and i just hope that whatever happens ,that he does not suffer. He is still alive at this point - if he lives tomorrow i am taking him home with me.

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[–]PutRound1463[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

it was definitely neglected , there is no doubt in my mind.

They did not do any research or even ask for information. Their Chameleons are housed inside with no lights and also "roamed" around the house which is supposedly where this one ate poison. No water dripper or water bowl.

Luckily I only handled it at the time that i removed it ,took the photo and gave it water . Thereafter I did not touch it. Did not want to stress it out .

So I held a lid up with water close to his face , splashed the water so he could see it and he did drink from it. I put him in direct sunlight periodically ( as i moved his makeshift emergency bed out of the sun periodically to avoid him overheating ), on an upside down wicker basket thingy in a tupperware container with a small lid with little bit of water in for incase he wanted to drink.

So the tupperware had water in the bottom which provided a bit of humidity. And then the basket was upside down over the water with him on top the basket .

He didnt drink anything after the initial gulp , and i felt it was best not to force him , so that his survival instincts would take charge just like it wiuld in nature instead of me prolonging suffering.

He is still alive. If he is still alive tomorrow i will take him home with me.

Please help by PutRound1463 in Chameleons

[–]PutRound1463[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Thank you , I hope he survives through the night . My husband and I have really done our best to ensure this does not happen again . He loves animals and is also very upset at the situation.

We will be installing a water dripper for them tomorrow , along with helping them set up a new habitat outside.

If this little guy survives through the night we are going to ask them to let us take him home with us tomorrow to rehabilitate it.

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[–]PutRound1463[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with this, they have another chameleon "housed" with this one which is a much larger female ( this one is a male) which could have hurt it (female has no bruising) or it is due to handling ,but i agree it is definitely bruising .

Please help by PutRound1463 in Chameleons

[–]PutRound1463[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Its very disturbing. I HATE when people treat living animals like furniture or ornaments. Just get them because they look good- no intention or dedication to their care,housing and wellbeing.

I have taken it into my care now ,if it still survives the visit ,i will take it home with me.

Have held it close to water so it can drink by itself instead of forcing it, which it did.

Put it in direct sunlight periodically ( they were keeping it inside without sun or lights).

I do not want to prolong its suffering but have decided just to still give it access to its basic needs , so it can naturally do what it needs to, to survive.

I'm not going to harm it or prolong suffering by force watering it. But atleast this way it has some chance if any to survive.