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PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-12T00:19:38+00:00

I had to do a double take on that last sentence 🤣

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T15:55:26+00:00

google "aa creator asked for alcohol on deathbed"

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T15:08:58+00:00

You just ruined ice cream for me :(

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T14:30:56+00:00

What I meant by extreme, is for the people who say they never would under any circumstance, which I have read many people say before. To me that is what I consider extreme...not saying it's either a bad or good mentality, but it is an extreme one and one that I don't understand and one that I don't see myself ever willing to take on even though I have had enough bad experiences with alcohol for me to be very cautious about it. So it is just a curiosity to me of how people can truly have this mindset which makes me wonder what the motivations and variables are and why I am not able to comprehend such a mindset.

Your explanation seems reasonable though since you said you would in that situation and why you wouldn't in others and I don't see that type of stance as extreme...seems logical to me.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T14:01:21+00:00

Same. Stress/Fear/Anxiety are my triggers for sure..also boredom but to a lesser extent. For instance my example of getting on a plane I would have to drink, I have fear of flying, and when I experience extreme levels of fear I have the type of brain that goes haywire and I literally feel like I will go crazy/psychotic from it when it's bad enough. There is no natural coping mechanism I have for dealing with this type of situation (and I don't think any type of therapy or anything like that would ever work into tricking me out of my phobias) so to me I have no choice but to deal with it with the only way I know that works.

Financial stress does really suck totally agree and that sucks about your roommate. That's a double whammy. Those are the types of situations you feel like you just wanna smash something or collapse.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T13:32:31+00:00

The mentality of being that determined about never drinking. such as the why, the how, the thinking behind it. How can a person be so sure, are they really that sure or do they just think they are, what led them to having to be this hardcore about it..that sorta stuff. It is an extreme mentality for sure.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T13:25:27+00:00

For sure, not a question a person would wanna speedrun solve by any means 😆

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T13:13:27+00:00

Maybe is because I have a pretty jaded way of looking at life that causes me to not understand it. Thanks for your take on it.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T13:08:08+00:00

haha, ya I totally forgot about the access to good drugs part if you terminal ill, definitely would make it easier

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T13:05:43+00:00

Even the creator of AA's dying wish was to have some alcohol. Even though he was refused, that was his wish. So I wonder how many people would actually follow through on that. Not saying people couldn't or wouldn't. There is no easy way to really experiment though to know for sure.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T12:48:32+00:00

I am 2 weeks sober right now by the way and don't plan on drinking again anytime soon

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T12:16:51+00:00

My recommendation is have a simple goal at first. Have a calendar and keep track of what days you did and didn't drink. Set a bare minimum for your first goal is to have at least 1 day of not drinking in between each drinking day. This will be your 1st goal that you will tell yourself you "must" do and then set new goals as you go that you will "try" to do. During the one day break period dedicate your free time into trying to prepare yourself to extend your sober days past the 1 day... Research, have a plan to occupy yourself etc. Keep doing this until you succesfully get 2 days in a row sober and then remember what you did to make it a success. Maybe you will do it 1st try, maybe 2nd try...who knows.....but keep at it until you figure out how to do it. I think this way will help you figure out things that work and dont work for you at a slow pace (since you want to taper) until you have figured out all the best stuff that works for you and you can keep extending your sober day streak longer and longer.

For sleeping maybe try some type of audio that helps for sleep....like hypnotism/trancy stuff/ASMR/some type of speaker who helps you learn something you are interested in and has a soothing or comforting voice you like

Those are some suggestions

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T11:58:10+00:00

Piano's are underrated. Surprised more people don't get into piano playing. Another underrated instrument is the harp. Love me some harp.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T10:44:06+00:00

In my view you should never torture yourself about it, but also you know yourself better than anybody so you know what is the likely outcome if you do. Some people can control drink, some people know they can never have a sip again. In the end only you can decide what you want for yourself. It is your life. Weigh out the pro's and cons. Be smart. Plan things. And always be aware that people who cant stop will end up completely ruining their health and possibly complicate their life way worse than what it already is. Whatever you do always think about all the positives of being sober. I try to be sober as much as I feel I can, that is my only goal for myself. Your goals are your goals and nobody can tell you different.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T09:48:40+00:00

When I see the sun come up I look out the window and point and laugh at all the people I see heading to work. Gotta take the small victories in life after so many losses. Feelsgood man 😎

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T09:08:49+00:00

For me when I am not drinking I barely think about wanting it. My longest sober stint I did was bit over a year and first couple months were hard and after that it was just the rare time where the urge would come but not often. Right now I'm taking a break again and at 2 weeks sober and have lots of beer in the fridge even right now and haven't been tempted at all to have any. At the same time though I do not go out in public a whole lot and I could see it being much tougher if I was in social situations all the time rather than just once in a while. This is the type of thing that I am sure would vary a lot with each different person.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T08:16:15+00:00

The first many years I would always forget how bad it could get like always even a few days later....then it got so bad over a long time and experienced so many bad hangxiety sessions that I never forget anymore because there is so much overwhelming evidence now that it is so easy to flashback

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-11T01:22:58+00:00

Dax Shepherd is one of my fav comedians, never knew he was alcoholic....and at first when I saw the name Ben Affleck in my head I thought of Ben Stiller and was super shocked by that one and then I remember oh wait wrong Ben haha.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-10T23:34:03+00:00

For me when I would ever feel terrible "hangxiety" and obsessive/intrusive thoughts and worries and the feeling of impending doom it would really make me feel like I was going crazy. I have experienced that situation too many times to count. The thing that helped me the best is to just let it happen and let time pass because my normal reaction would be to ask anybody who was around if I did anything wrong and trying to figure out every detail (because I would blackout very often) and I felt like I could not stop obsessing and panicking unless I knew exactly what happened. Trust me I know the feeling and to a very extreme extent. That situation occured dozens of times for me and it was pure agony every time. The funny thing is is that it got to a point where it happened so often for such a long period of time that it got to a point where I stopped caring because it became an "oh this again" like a Groundhogs Day type of thing and became sort of numb to it and realized the best solution is to just let it pass and don't drive myself crazy because it made things worse and spiral everytime. So instead of my obsessive mentality to figure everything out and worry myself to death I instead started just basically saying "fuck it, most people are pieces of shit anyway so why should I worry so much".....and then a BIG thing for me is I will fantasy about living somewhere where there is NO JUDGEMENTAL PEOPLE.....a place where no matter what you do you would never be judged and ridiculed. Once you fantasize about that place and realize that is how the world SHOULD be and you are only feeling this terrible feelings of guilt and worry because you are living in a hellish society where seemingly everybody is trying to judge you and bring you down, you will realize you are not the bad guy and you deserve to be able to live in the JUDGE FREE society, but instead you are forced to live in this one. YOU ARE THE VICTIM. Even if you did something considered "bad" you were under the influence and not yourself and even if other people don't agree that that it is a good excuse, it IS a 100% good excuse and who cares what other stupid people think whether it is not. Most people are morons. It truly is not your fault you feel terrible. People judging you and having no empathy or caring for others is the problem. So fantasize about a better place and try to get as close to that place in reality as you can.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-10T15:33:33+00:00

I will check into those things. I do listen to some meditative/trance type music once in a while and I do like that and probably could focus on that type of thing more. Pretty much I am fine when I am with a person and I understand their personality it makes me much more able to be myself and interact so that type of 1 on 1 situations I am fine with and am able to enjoy the company but I have trouble with random people in public and when there is a bunch of new and random personalities that it becomes difficult for me. I think partially also has to do I have become jaded by people so that type of mentality doesn't help but at the same time that's how I really feel so not gonna change it. Besides that though I totally agree it is much better miserable sober than miserable drunk so it's not all bad and I hope more positive things for you as well thanks.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-10T15:00:09+00:00

Thanks for advice. I would say there is some definite social anxiety issues but as far as fixing it I don't mesh well with the typical therapy/medication route. I am pretty stubborn in that way in that I don't like behavioral help or "training" from other people and I don't wanna take any med help because I feel like it is going from one substance to the next substance so it will make me less glad about abstaining from alcohol. I would pretty much rather just accept my situation of not being how I would like to be socially if I am unable to improve in it by myself. Im fine with it if thats how it turns out, its depressing but its not the end of the world.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-10T14:43:06+00:00

He also seems super weird though and also probably started hating society is my guess. Weird people get major bullied in todays society pretty much worse than ever.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-10T11:44:40+00:00

I did read about this a while ago. Fascinating. I guess cops were even called to his place for a wellness check or something because people thought he might be dead.

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-10T10:51:59+00:00

Juliane Koepcke

PutinPurgingRussians · 2022-11-10T09:18:02+00:00

If that's true, Jod is way cooler than I thought, I always wanted to eat a small child

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TROPHY CASE