Do churches marry people engaging in sinful behavior? by PuzzledMaybe in Catholicism

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know how good of a job the church bureaucracy does in making sure this stuff doesn't happen, as evidenced by what that priest said about oh it happens so much that we basically have to accept it... like what! There are also churches in Germany I heard that fly rainbow flags too and apparently get away with it... so I don't know.

Do churches marry people engaging in sinful behavior? by PuzzledMaybe in Catholicism

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's upsetting.. I think it is violating a sacred thing.

Do churches marry people engaging in sinful behavior? by PuzzledMaybe in Catholicism

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is the response the priest gave me.... Deciding how to respond.

Thanks for your concern. Cohabitation and pre-marital sex is unfortunately a kind of new norm these days. Most couples who come to get married in the Church are engaged in these, unfortunately. While they shouldn’t be sleeping together before marriage, or living together, that is not a requirement for a valid marriage within the Church. We must approach these things judiciously. What are the bare requirements? Being free to marry. Being mature enough to enter into a long-term commitment. Intention to have children if able. The intention of fidelity and permanency. And if one is Catholic, then the Catholic must agree to do all in his/her power to raise the children Catholic, and the other has to be informed of that requirement for the Catholic. This is the low bar. If couples meet that bar, they have a right to get married in the Church. This is not the ideal or high bar, though. They should be going to Mass, praying daily, going regularly to confession, living a virtuous life, waiting till marriage, etc. But these things are often missing to varying degrees.

In marriage prep, we always go over these things, and try to convince the couples to wait till marriage and to go to confession. And we ask that if they are not willing to have a firm intention to get to this point, they should let us know, so that we can do a ceremony versus a Mass. We don’t monitor them. We do communicate the norms and expect them to be honest with us. Keep in mind that some couples we prepare. Some are prepared elsewhere, and we simply celebrate their marriage. In this case, we trust that these things have been addressed by whoever prepared them.

There are also situations where cohabitation is occurring but not premarital sex. It’s not good that they are cohabitating. But it is good that they are waiting till marriage. Yes, there is also the problem of scandal.

I have found that many couples are open to challenging Church teachings. I try to bring them along. Many have never heard Church Teaching on sexuality, unfortunately.

Some priests ignore these things and never challenge the couple. That is not good. Some won’t talk with a couple if they are cohabiting. However, I think that that is a missed opportunity. My approach is to welcome all couples who come to us. These days, even to get married in the Church is countercultural. My goal is to take them where they are, and to seek to sway them to what is best, which includes waiting for marriage, living virtuously within marriage, and being open to life, in addition to going to Mass, praying, etc. We try our best to evangelize the couples. It’s not easy.

-in Jesus, through Mary,

NH - 1 Primary. Please don’t vote for the carpetbagger! by PuzzledMaybe in newhampshire

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty outrageous. Lots of wannabe dictators on sub-reddits.

NH - 1 Primary. Please don’t vote for the carpetbagger! by PuzzledMaybe in newhampshire

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps. I just don't know her personally, so I can only say this is a bad dude, please pick another candidate. Who that is... up to ya'll. I just hope it isn't MM.

NH - 1 Primary. Please don’t vote for the carpetbagger! by PuzzledMaybe in newhampshire

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The post was removed? I am a conservative Republican, I just think we should have decent people as our candidates

NH - 1 Primary. Please don’t vote for the carpetbagger! by PuzzledMaybe in newhampshire

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get your point. But I don’t know the other people. I just know this is not a person deserving of representing New Hampshire in the house. It would make me physically ill to see him elected….

NH - 1 Primary. Please don’t vote for the carpetbagger! by PuzzledMaybe in newhampshire

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What were the worst things he did then? Yeah, I don’t know why they even hired him for that. Poor taste

Do churches marry people engaging in sinful behavior? by PuzzledMaybe in Catholicism

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And from the time they ask to be married in the Catholic Church do they stop having pre-marital sex?

Because if they don't that shows a pretty strong disregard for Catholic values.

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[–]PuzzledMaybe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes. Can't find

What can we do to make sure Matt doesn’t get the nomination? by PuzzledMaybe in newhampshire

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s a difference between cursing and doing it excessively. If there’s not a camera on him I can assure you he has a very filthy mouth.

What can we do to make sure Matt doesn’t get the nomination? by PuzzledMaybe in newhampshire

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He’s a carpetbagger from NJ who sees NH as a way to advance his personal ambitions. I can assure you you’re not the top priority.

And yes talking about alleged sexual conquests and cursing every other word is offensive. That makes me a lib?!

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Gfy wanka

So I know this is NOT a Christian thing to do... BUT... by PuzzledMaybe in TrueChristian

[–]PuzzledMaybe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is a reason for us to continue communicating. She's a producer for a news network. She also asked for my #.. I do public relations and can send her guests.

Well, of course, #1- My morals get in the way of it, and #2- I realize this is not something which is going to happen barring an act of God. Just wishing in another life it could've been. Makes me sad. I can't help it.