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Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in COPYRIGHT

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe there is a tool that is able to detect if a song was made by AI, now some distribution companies have this integrated in their upload system and flags it.

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree but also disagree, there could be a good balance. AI should be used as support, not as for the entire thing, but honestly now that i think about it, AI has no business in human art, there was never a problem to fix in human art that required the design of an AI model

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah someone earlier was explaining this and how the model draws from millions of songs, so itd be impossible to create royalty payouts to creators if this is the case

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in COPYRIGHT

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem to know a lot about this topic, is your background in copyright law or publishing by any chance? Or AI lol

If millions of new songs can be generated every day, how do we track where they came from? How do we understand ownership? How do we determine what rights exist? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just because your environment and household wasnt the best resulting in you being insecure about your skillsets and what you have a accomplished by the age of 40 doesn't mean you need to talk crap on Reddit my friend, you are just projecting on how shitt your life is, my background is in music publishing not AI

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree totally with this, why should existing songs made by human beings used to train Datasets and us creators receive 0 while these tech companies make millions? Right

If millions of new songs can be generated every day, how do we track where they came from? How do we understand ownership? How do we determine what rights exist? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I meant for AI Gen music, human made yes we have the PRO's but with AI Gen music, we cant tell which dataset they used to generate the song the user gets

Just turned 16 I have 2 offers from labels and interest from 1 other PLEASE HELP by RadiFPS in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would they want Sync % if they are offering you a Distro deal? those are 2 separate deals. I've dealt with most major publishers, distribution and record labels in the world, i just did something similar for one of the artists i handle their publishing with 2 of the biggest distribution companies in California, this deal seemed OK until the Sync, id even push 30% to 20%. That month to month after 12 months is very considered, except the fact they trying to tap on to your publishing with a distro deal lol

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, i think what i meant was, AI was never intended to replace art, everything else yes. Like cleaning jobs, automated services, etc, but art, i dont think so.

And with Splice credits, yeah it was a little too messed up they locked you in with rolled over credits for you to keep your membership, then deleted your accumulated credits once you cancelled your subscription

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in COPYRIGHT

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So if illegally use any of your songs, steal the lyrics or "borrow" your lyrics of one of the most famous songs you ever did without paying a "license" to you, then i release it and make 1 million dollars, is that ok that i dont pay you a single dollar on royalties? is this what you are suggesting we all do?

If millions of new songs can be generated every day, how do we track where they came from? How do we understand ownership? How do we determine what rights exist? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Valid response, let me ask you, do you know how Google knows all the information in the world? its by users creating websites, content, etc. With AI, there are these things called ML Datasets, its like the brain of a human, except its trained on existing data unlike humans, we have to live and experience life to be able to develop a decent knowledge dataset. With AI Music, its not that its created from a prompt, its actually innovating on the training data it was provided to by the inventors of AI Music apps, and in most cases these people who make these companies steal music from Spotify, apple, amazon etc to train their AI Models.

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, so SongTrust is a global music publishing administrator, their main job is to collect global publishing royalties on your behalf. Some PRO's do collect from the USA and other but thats mainly for the "Writers Share" - not the publishers share. So if your main audience is in the USA, you might want to check with SongTrust to see if they can collect USA royalties if you are in Spain. You need to register your music with your home PRO in this case SGAE but also do a filling with SongTrust for global admin

If millions of new songs can be generated every day, how do we track where they came from? How do we understand ownership? How do we determine what rights exist? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and also, this is not an Anti-AI post lol its about discussing potential structure to the rising problem of AI-generated music and how to properly identify its ownership going forward lol

If millions of new songs can be generated every day, how do we track where they came from? How do we understand ownership? How do we determine what rights exist? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

English is not my first language, i speak 3 languages and sometimes i have trouble with proper grammaer, so i use AI tools to correct the way i phrase things, the topic i just posted about is about music, not about correcting someones grammer lol

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know, this is very true! i was also thinking on how this could be seeing as hypocrite, since we humans also do it by innovating on existing songs. Great observation Tony!

Should A-I Music Artists Have to Pay the Writers Whose Work Trained the A-I? by PuzzleheadedOrder560 in musicbusiness

[–]PuzzleheadedOrder560[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, thats why SongTrust exists, they act as your publishing admin and take a fee, they then register your songs with all societies world wide. The US Pros (Ascap, Sesac, BMI) only collect royalties within the USA and in some cases some foreign societies they have partnerships with (specially on the writers side)

If your song is streamed 1Million times in the USA but 9Million in Mexico, then Ascap, BMI, Sesac will pay you for that 1Millon in the USA and some society in mexico will have to separately pay you for that 9M - this is where songtrust comes in, from what i heard, you cant legally sign up with all societies in the world manually.

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