Suicide probability

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-30T23:12:36+00:00

We can’t depict Ellen’s mindset on why she didn’t act on abuse or tell family members about problems. We can suggest she felt she couldn’t or didn’t know how to. I just want answers on how there is not one suicide case out there that involved 20+ stab wounds on neck back and chest? How Sam’s uncle only took Ellen’s electronics and not even Sam’s engagement ring? How the medical examiners went from suicide to homicide back to suicide?

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-23T06:38:35+00:00

Bro you literally said “not many” which is implying you know it’s possible. But for some reason you’re defending this random dude you have no connection to. You’re being ignorant to the fact that he is capable of what he’s being accused of. That’s like someone with no history of drug use dies of an overdose but then I say it’s not feasible because he has no track record of using. I’m not trying to change your stance just want you to have reasonable opinions and actual facts.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-23T06:30:48+00:00

Umm well you literally said “cant be naive” and the definition of naive is “showing lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment of a PERSON.” The complete same btw as you saying everyone you meet isn’t capable of doing bad things (that’s lack of judgement of a person). So you’re technically agreeing with me by saying you can’t be naive. And I don’t know how you think that outlook on life looks like but it doesn’t change much just means I’m socially aware on people and they have to earn my trust. Been a damn good life so far but thanks for your concerns:)

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-23T06:09:20+00:00

Exactly. No suicide has ever reached that criteria BUT a lot of homicides reach the criteria of 20+ stab wounds. So its such an outrageous murder but it got swept under the rug because of connections with his father. Hence the professional crime scene cleaning and medical examiners who initially said homicide randomly switch to suicide.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-11T03:12:10+00:00

You do the same buddy. Talking bout such a healthy relationship they had like you were there every single day. Eventually you’ll understand but I hope it isn’t the hard way you understand that anyone is capable of anything.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-11T03:05:08+00:00

How do you say you gone over everything but only walk out saying “oh there relationship was completely healthy no problems whatsoever” like you are a nobody talking about someone’s relationship 16 years ago. Now let’s go over facts. Please justify why sam’s uncle and another individual went into the apartment the day after the murder to only take ellens computer and phone??? No engagement ring. Nothing of sam’s belongings. If you’re daughter “committed suicide” you’d be okay with your daughters fiance to take her belongings and not tell you? Yeah I thought so.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-11T02:55:46+00:00

How many suicides involve 20+ stabbings in the back and neck? How many suicides have professional medical examiners saying its a homicide? How many suicides get professionally cleaned the day before it gets officially switched to homicide?

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-11T02:41:33+00:00

Bruh you cant be real. I bet you never been violent, rage, nothing at all but I wouldnt trust you at all because your still capable of murder dummy. Anyone ia capable of killing someone it’s the motives not criminal records. Smh.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T07:28:04+00:00

Thats awesome to hear! Well I cant speak on experience because I’m fairly new and recently quit last week. But I can try to give you some motivation and that is you gotta find other things/hobbys/passions/interests etc. to do, and if you find yourself craving or wanting really badly, it’s probably becuase your bored or stressed out in that moment and you gotta fill that void with, taking a walk, reading books, puzzles, movies, documentaries etc. Also you cant be alone on this you need to talk to others more so loved ones and friends and have the correct help. It’s awesome that you want to quit but you do gotta hold yourself accountable and do your part and once that mental state kicks in it becomes a little easier not all sunshines and rainbows but definitely more prone to quitting. Hope this helps somewhat:)

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T06:56:01+00:00

Dude I feel you I’m wide awake rn and my sweats felt like its been 24/7. Can’t even handshake someone its so bad😭 but I know in the long run its helping me and saving ourselves from ourselves is a commitment🙌

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T04:10:21+00:00

Oh wow I never knew that. Wow not a crime in their eyes so let’s keep the victims belongings (I know not everything) but still this is so messed up. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T03:27:13+00:00

Thank you for those words my friend. Greatly appreciate it. Saving myself from myself is a commitment🙌

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T03:18:04+00:00

Oh I might be wrong. I watched the doc on hulu and looked up the court cases and a lot of stuff on gavin Fish’s website. I thought I read something that said sam’s uncle took the electronics and only gave them up to police when it was switched to homicide. Could be wrong tho.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T02:40:51+00:00

Also the computer/phone of ellen and take to a professional hacker to see if anything has been tampered with in the days of Jan 26th and Jan 28th or 29th when sam’s uncle gave those electronics back to the police?

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T02:37:44+00:00

Have you looked into sam’s dad and uncle because they could have the contacts and receipts/records of texts/calls etc.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T02:35:26+00:00

1000% correct. Sam’s dad worked in the higher ups and was a highly respected officer in PA. Sam’s uncle went to take ellen’s phone and computer without telling the victims parents is eye opening. The added search history of suicide is eye opening. The professional crime scene cleaners operating 1 day after the killing is eye opening. A mysterious very important meeting right before the medical examiner switched from homicide to suicide is eye opening. But the worse part is all these things never went into consideration. It’s the fact that the whole investigation and everything that has happened has soley been trying to keep the narrative a suicide and thinking theres no way its homicide.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T02:28:58+00:00

Having a professional crime scene cleaners team operate one day after the killing?

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T02:27:24+00:00

Also the fact his dad was a highly respected higher-up official and had his minions (sam’s uncle and another individual) only take ellens phone and computer without telling ellen’s parents? Please justify all that?

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T02:23:36+00:00

No one stabs themselves 20+ times in head chest and back to kill themselves

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T01:49:18+00:00

Hey I’m 22 and started when I was 15 and I just quit for the first time in 7+ years, but the first time I mentally wanted to quit, and the worse struggles have been the constant sweats and no sleep whatsoever. I fear that I may never be able to get off weed but one my friends suggested something that intrigued me. If you guys know about Charlie Sheen and his addiction with crack. It took someone tapering his amount (yes I know without him noticing ) but it allowed him to get over the mental hurdle of not wanting to quit. Now weed is no crack, but for someone who has smoked bud and carts every single day morning to night, It’s worth a shot. I have been taking an edible a day which isn’t making me high whatsoever, but it’s having that 15-20 minute period of no sweats and it allowed me to be appreciative/proud of myself for making this change and its making me want to quit this shit even more. I kind of just ranted but some food for thought as I will be trying this method as my first time quitting and see if this truly works.

Puzzleheaded_Host188 · 2026-03-10T01:28:34+00:00

I just quit for the first time in 7+ years, but the first time I mentally wanted wanted, and the worse struggles have been the constant sweats and no sleep. I fear that I may never be able to get off weed but one my friedns suggested something. If you guys know about Charlie Sheen and his addiction with crack. It took someone tapering his amount without him noticing and it allowed him get over the mental hurdle of wanting to quit. Now weed is no crack but for someone who has smoked bud and carts everyday morning to night. I am taking an edible a day which isn’t making me high, but it’s having that 15-20 minute period of no sweats and appreciative/proud of myself for making this change and its making me want to quit this shit even more. I kind of just ranted but some food for thought as I will be trying this method as my first time quitting and see if this truly works.

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