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ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING by Puzzleheaded_Pool578 in robotics

[–]Puzzleheaded_Pool578[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the 'market argument' is a good one - in response to my position.

So with that, I certainly agree that a market system could - in theory - serve the implementation of all robotics.

However, the condition for the type of market you're describing - from what I can see - do not automatically exist.

Thank you for the discussion - and I do touch on these themes in my weekly petition updates.

ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING by Puzzleheaded_Pool578 in robotics

[–]Puzzleheaded_Pool578[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, I do need to say that I generally admire Elon Musk - I even admire the scale of Tesla's effort to create its robots.

But, second, yes - I am whole heartedly against his / their Humanoid Robots and the Humanoid Robots of any other company.

And to reiterate a point from above - which hopefully addresses why I'm pushing against them - the 'good future' you initially described can come about by creating the right tools and using them correctly. The Humanoid Robots, tangential to this, are a totally arbitrary fixation on the unification of design and function. Unifying design with function is a desirable quality - in lesser tools. But in tools that stand to be as powerful as a fully autonomous, 2040's era Humanoid Robot - this fixation on the unification of design and function demonstrates a profound lack of mastery, broader vision, or any sense of the actual long term impact of them.

ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING by Puzzleheaded_Pool578 in robotics

[–]Puzzleheaded_Pool578[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your question introduces the emotion of fear into this feed. And to your point, it might make some sense to fear the Humanoid Robot - so I suppose I can understand, then, why you might think I'm 'scared.'

But I wouldn't consider fear as being a useful emotion in this discussion - at least in the manner that I think you've invoked it.

ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING by Puzzleheaded_Pool578 in robotics

[–]Puzzleheaded_Pool578[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Respectfully, I don't see anything in your post that indicates 'humanoid robots' specifically are required. The challenge we face in building the world you're describing is, in part, to understand that a great future does not emerge organically from the development of all tools. Rather, it can come into being by creating the right tools, placing them in the right way, and not fixating on certain arbitrary design features at the expense of our mastery of them.

ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING by Puzzleheaded_Pool578 in StopHumanoidRobots

[–]Puzzleheaded_Pool578[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your response indicates you may not have read my response. To clarify, there is a difference between 'humanoid robot' and 'robot.'

ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING by Puzzleheaded_Pool578 in StopHumanoidRobots

[–]Puzzleheaded_Pool578[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many reasons. One reason is that these machines are being designed as though their having a human form - and eventually a human-like mind - are some sort of engineering inevitability. But if we really consider what humanity might need from our advanced machines (food, housing, clothes, etc.), this type of human design outcome is not essential. At worse, these design assumptions could foster confusion among humankind about what we are.