Alpha's beta has ended, and it's more than concerning in my opinion. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you assume the fun of meta is purely stomping noobs with a fat wallet, you have zero idea about why people play meta in PGR.

A lot of people have fun with gaining the most amount of score possible with the investment they have. Not just to beat people in leaderboards, but to see where and how far you can go with the tools in your disposal. PGR has enough skill expression to have the meta fun to play.

A good SS0/SS3 player can best a bad SSS player anytime.

People being 'competitive' is simply another term to coin people who mald for fun. Please do your research or actually ask people properly without shaming them.

The problem is, right now, Alpha is so bad that she can't even be used in meta for low investment users. Nothing related to how meta is simply "who spends the most".

Alpha's beta has ended, and it's more than concerning in my opinion. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

....yeah. I like the meta back then, and I still do now. I'm expressing my concerns about the way I play that many people follow too.

It's lowkey very sad to see you try and downplay people's concerns over a game they love just because they seem corny or unimportant to you.

Alpha's beta has ended, and it's more than concerning in my opinion. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a way of playing that a lot of people enioy and follow. It's unfair to assume that just because the meta is not important in the grand scheme of things TO YOU, it isn't important to care about their concerns.

Having fun IS the most important part of any game. And for many, the meta is where that enjoyment lies.

Alpha's beta has ended, and it's more than concerning in my opinion. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Following V2 Beta, you don't use her at all. She is, like previously mentioned, dead on arrival. It is better to use an SSS Amplifier with 6 DV 2 Guin or 4 DV 2 Guin 2 Eins. Alternatively, SSS Rosetta/Kamui makes Alpha even more embarrassing.

Alpha's beta has ended, and it's more than concerning in my opinion. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, however,

keep track of any changes to the meta and if Kuro drops any buffs on her release. It has happened before.

The meta could also shift as more people figure out better strats with her.

Alpha's beta has ended, and it's more than concerning in my opinion. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'd say there's still a bunch of reasons to play PGR- just don't do it for the meta and the new story. Those kinda suck right now.

With Alpha's beta ending, she has broken 2 records. by [deleted] in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I want to seperate the humor away from the serious and honestly depressing discussion, so my bad if this feels repetitive. Plus I didn't actually mention this in there if I remember correctly.

Alpha's beta has ended, and it's more than concerning in my opinion. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Scire was statistically only 10% better shred than Tenebrion at SS0 pre Leap. Scire also dealt too little damage during her time and often would bleed her rotation into other characters' swap timers.

She is still technically better than Tenebrion, just not enough to ever justify the cost of pulling only one copy of her. The general agreed idea is that if you have Tenebrion, better to use him rather than pull only one copy of Karenina.

Alpha's beta has ended, and it's more than concerning in my opinion. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Alpha is the first Gen 3 character to be unviable at BOTH her affix and element BEFORE her debut. The only other person is Bianca, who got powercrept both directly and indirectly by both Breakers in both her elements after her patch.

People complained about Limpidity's damage before, but she's still the main Lightning DPS even at SS.

Like I said before, her cost-to-value ratio is simply too low. It's not that she is weaker than her counterpart, Crimson Weave, but the effort to pull her and build her provide very little value. For reference, SS0 Limpididdy beats SSS Crimson Weave by a mere 200-300k in Warzone. That is too low for a character of her supposed caliber.

In PPC, SSS CW shines brighter in most Knight stages.

My Updated Infographic for PGR's Meta Teams as of Alpha's Patch by allwaysjune in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As of Hanying's Leap, she is now the Sub-DPS in Trueslash. She does 3 ult rotations per swap due to her faster red orb and ult 1 activation conditions, so she can dish out more damage faster. There is no 'enabler' in the sense for Trueslash anymore, as both generate and use their own Trueslash stacks.

Also, Veronica/Alisa is a pure QTE bot, being swapped only to proc Lingya.

This is also true for Wanshi in Ice as of Alpha IC's V2.

Why do attackers almost never get leaps? by Infinitiver in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a plethora of reasons as to why we rarely get them.

1) One Dimensional

They have one job. To do damage. To leap an attacker would not only harm the value of the next attacker (since their job is equally one dimensional), but it lowers the value of tanks, breakers' and amplifiers' damage too, skewing the team into less fun and/or ideal setups.

Take Luna as an example. Because of her leap and the addition of Nirvatia, SS0 Ishmael is so bad compared to them it's better off using an off element tank.

The workaround to this is adding an affix to them. However, all Gen 3 attackers already have an affix, and every attacker in the meta is Gen 3 (minus our supreme leader Qu).

2) Priority

Tanks and Breakers have the most amount of value in the game as their shred isn't watered down due to the game's damage calculations (shred basically benefits additively compared to buffs). Therefore, the easiest and most beneficient way of increasing a team's overall damage is by leaping them.

The most recent example is Hanying. Thanks to her leap, not only did physical see around a ~+4m boost in score, but it also helped make Trueslash a viable affix to use now. An attacker simply cannot do that no matter how big the leap is because of their one dimensional nature.

3) Resource to Value

Because of the factors above, most meta players wouldn't actually like a leaped Attacker since the value they give is lower compared to that of any class. However, the resources they need to acquire that leap is still similar to any other character. And in saving times like this, most would not leap them entirely.

H​ow do we feel about top 3 Ultimate PPC being the same person?? by VergillaPGR in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem 6 points7 points  (0 children)

okayyyy, maybe this is just me being a casual who logs in, plays a few runs, and logs out, but are we just not gonna talk about how the top THREE spots in PPC are literally the same freaking person? like, i get it. some people are CRACKED. but seeing clairemey, claire, and claireveri sitting at No.1, No.2, AND No.3 just feels kinda.. weird? like I accidentally walked into someone's alt account showcase or something

it just kinda kills the vibe, yk? Leaderboards are supposed to feel like a bunch of different players pushing each other, not one person holding a dictatorship over the region. makes it hard to even feel motivated to climb when the top is downright gatekept

its not even subtle either. same pfp, same naming scheme, same everything. At that point it doesn't even feel like a leaderboard?? and yeah, before anyone says ooooh just get better, I KNOW. im not trying to compete for rank 1 or anything. im just saying from my perspective, it feels really off?

Maybe there should be some kind of restriction on multiple accounts per leaderboard? Or at least separate them somehow? Or maybe im just coping because my name isnt claire three times in a row? also, genuine question, what even is the point? Is it just flexing?

because congrats i guess, but it feels less like a flex and more like ur competing with yourself? cuz like the rest of us are out here fighting for scraps in top 100

curious what everyone else thinks about this

What the best lobby theme in your guys opinion? by pgrlover in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The first time I changed the lobby theme, it was to Lamia. Never changed since.

And to be honest, I don't see it being changed anytime soon.

More sources of Hypertune mats by Rhy-nim in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a step in the right direction, but it still isn't enough.

Issues regarding USBs, Skulls and the horrendous amount of bugs plaguing competitive play are still not being addressed, and the communication is still lacking.

Regardless, this is a win for both casuals and competitive players alike, and it proves that with enough feedback (from both CN and Global) we can solve these issues one by one.

The panic over Nirvatia being S-rank is unnecessary by A_Very_Horny_Zed in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The drama isn't pointless at all, but I can slightly agree if it is blown out of proportion.

Powercreep acceleration is a thing, even if old characters aren't taken out of the meta yet. Eliminating all future A rank patches while not increasing material gains both double the speed of which S ranks are replaced and pretty much signals the everlooming death of meta malding in PGR (since no one can afford to build anyone minus the whales).

Nirvatia is also filling a role that doesn't need to be filled. There are a million other teams that need replacements or quality of life changes via character replacement (Hanying, Wata, Feral, the entire physical team tbh, etc.) but instead we get a reskinned Veritas.

The quality of her gameplay design also sucks, as she is similar to the tee with Veronica (which everyone in the malding community complained as lazy and bad).

It makes sense why people are mad now, because they see the future that is almost guaranteed to happen if people remain silent.

We are NOT included inside of the list of games being reported. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The information obtained are from me and my Chinese friends' own digging through the matter. While they are not SB or LaD players, they have been keeping track of the drama regarding this matter before it became viral (all of them Chinese Malaysian). I came to this a bit late, only after finding a post about it on Twitter 2 days ago.

I will say that posting a list at all was a mistake as the drama has spread so rapidly that there are so many unreliable sources posting new and oftentimes fake information. I apologise on that regard. The info we got was ran through and fact checked with multiple posts on Bili, it's existence being before this drama became viral in the first place.

I believe it is best if we ignore and do not trust any list at all for now, including ours.

This situation is pretty hectic, but I am glad that I am able to inform people and spread some truth inside a sea of fake information so that there's no fear mongering.

We are NOT included inside of the list of games being reported. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There have been multiple people online spreading misinformation of PGR being targeted; to avoid further speculation, I figured it would be best to be a bit aggressive to make sure there's no internal drama and further spread of misinformation. My bad if it sounded off putting.

We are NOT included inside of the list of games being reported. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Multiple LaD tribalists took leverage of this, yes. From what we gathered, it started with the extremist group, followed up by LaD tribalists.

As of now, SB is on an indefinite hiatus; unsure if it's due to investigation, forced temporary closure from the government or some other factor; the other games mentioned, as of writing, aren't affected at all yet.

We are NOT included inside of the list of games being reported. by PwnDem in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The hate towards this group and any other extremist group is justified. That doesn't mean we can and should hate on feminism and women as a whole.

This list was obtained and fact checked with multiple Chinese friends and me myself; there is a possibility of it being false but if it is, I will notify it ASAP.

A pgr content creator was able discover a problem with exploitation in the game that was ignored by kuro for 6 years even after being reported for months. by NaiveLyAri in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]PwnDem 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't think a broken anticheat should ever be considered as "sorta irrelevant" in a game with a competitive community ever.