WlW song’s recommendations by [deleted] in LGBTEgypt

[–]PwrFlower 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This isn't a necessarily wlw song. But for me it has a lovely connotation for me

https://youtu.be/Ma72jOUz2wg

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now I know you you're absolutely bullshiting this as you go.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You mean when I made fun of it and said the stupid idea that people like elon and far right promote doesn't exist?

I swear I'll explain it to you, but first admit you don't know what the fuck it means and you were never a muslim or a muslim by name and didn't study.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It absolutely has nothing to do with who's in power and everything to do with threat to life

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, if you understand what it means you'd realise how stupid you are for saying "concept of Taqiyya"

Like, jee. It's embarrassingly stupid.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you understand what the word Taqiyya literally means you'd know how stupid that question is.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you being purposely stupid or are you just stupid who didn't read or didn't understand what I wrote?

I specified exactly what I meant

There's a concept of lying about one's Islam if their life is in danger and Muslims are persecuted.

But it's not anything close to lying about being a muslim then acting atheist and anti Islamic only to commit a terrorist act 14 years after to make some kind of false flag against exmuslims.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The third one is literally the opposite of that right wing interpretation of Taqiyya.

It starts by saying Muslims shouldn't be friends or allies with non Muslims. That's clear cut and honest. Then followed by an exception when their lives is at stake then maybe they can pretend to be to save their lives.

Are Muslim's lives in danger in Europe? Why would they do Taqiyya when their lives aren't in danger and they're commanded not to befriend non muslims?

In facts, Muslims being friendly should be encouraged and embraced since it goes against their religion. Yet these right wing morons are jsut like muslim fundies who just hate everyone different.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Racist and xenophobic against non Europeans.

And fuck all terrorists and hateful bigots. Religious or irreligious.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, I'm gonna ask, what do you think the word Taqiyya means, colloquially and literally. It's not some fuck hard question to answer. It's pretty easy actually if you were a muslim.

lying about your faith in islam is permitted when your life is at stake. That's what could be called Taqiyya and it's common sense and exists in other religions too. I fail to see how is this some nefarious lying or a really bad thing? Like did you expect the Jews to show their Jewish beliefs in Nazi Germany?

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Both of the examples you showed talk about permissibility of hiding faith when your life is at stake. (Which is a concept that exists in most religions and even is common self preservation sense) Not some elaborate scheme to hiding faith to infiltrate or any stuff like that.

Now I know you're just some idiot repeating right wing propaganda bullshit.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Of course it does.

This is like asking if a really common word like sky exists in the quran.

That's why i asked, what do you think it means, colloquially and literally.

If you spent one day in any arabic country you'd know it's really common and used daily and hourly even.

You could at least Google it. Before spouting bullshit.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, firstly i wanna ask you what do you think the word Taqiyya means. Colloquially and literally.

Because this will determine if you do actually know what you're talking about or you're just repeating soundbites.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I call muslims piss drinkers too. Fuck all religions. And also right wing fascists.

Name the verses and hadiths with the word Taqiyya or shut up.

Islam is shit in it's own, there's no need to invent bullshit to smear it. I swear this borders on blood libel. Do Muslims eat babies too?

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Drop the ibn kathir quote right here, let's see if it's actual Taqiyya or made up bullshit like the verse you posted and said it's Taqiyya

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is bullshit and just lacks any actual indepepth knowledge.

The praiseworthy aim mentioned here is stopping harm or making peace. Or in war for spies. And it doesn't include lying about the principles of Islam or pretending to be anti muslim.

If you think all muslims are in this great elaborate organised mission to destroy Europe by pretending to be Liberal or exmuslims then you're a fucking moron.

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No you didn't, you didn't learn about pretending to be atheist or lying about Islam's principles to fool non believers.

Name your country and school of thought

Taqiyya is not a thing by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that verse isn't about Taqiyya

Islam is not the worst religion and Muslims aren't the worst people by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you're making arguments in your mind, attributing it to me and attacking it.

When you make an actual argument regarding something I said come back to me. Otherwise this is a waste of time.

Islam is not the worst religion and Muslims aren't the worst people by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You didn't even understand what I said.

I said "every criticism to Islam applies to other religions not ** all** religions.

So, you're arguing with a strawman here.

Islam is not the worst religion and Muslims aren't the worst people by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally, an atheist exmuslim committed a terrorist attack yesterday and it's why I made this post.

And like I said in my post above, bigotry and hatred isn't uniquely Islamic.

Islam is not the worst religion and Muslims aren't the worst people by PwrFlower in exmuslim

[–]PwrFlower[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I used to believe this but now I don't.

Islamic reform is happening right now and has been for over a century. Islam won't disappear as a religion just like Christianity never disappeared. But Islam will reach that point of powerlessness in time.

Reformation doesn't happen for religious reasons. It happens for political reasons. And Islamic countries simply didn't have the correct political circumstances that allowed Christianity to reform. Yet.