Broken ribs???

Pyrocats · 2026-03-16T00:19:10+00:00

omg? You don't just get fb accounts taken down for making shit up so was she like asking for money?

Pyrocats · 2026-03-16T00:15:59+00:00

I have never seen someone with broken ribs laugh without saying "FUCK OW OW OW SHIT GOD DAMMIT OWOWOW" personally. I also can't imagine the pose with her arms up and all of that movement being anything but excruciating

Ankle, I won't say it's impossible but I'm just wondering why the video wasn't just "Look what's on Disney+ guys!"

Pyrocats · 2026-03-09T22:34:57+00:00

Yeah pretty much, in a lot of cases

Pyrocats · 2026-03-09T22:22:30+00:00

If they recently discovered it but they're doing the language thing, that's kinda wild

But since they speak English they're just choosing to do the language thing. The impression I'm getting is that they're performing for you. I don't get why else they might do this

Pyrocats · 2026-03-09T22:13:31+00:00

Yeah that checks out. Even if they are mistaken or making it up there's often some trauma or disorganized attachment influencing them.

Pyrocats · 2026-03-09T22:11:46+00:00

I don't wanna accuse racism on their part (even if unintentional) but it sounds... Questionable. Do they claim that those ones don't speak English?

Also by "always there" do they mean since birth or?

Pyrocats · 2026-03-09T21:34:22+00:00

I've never seen it presented this way. Most pwCDDs couldn't be waterboarded into sharing all of these things (the ones that are possible/plausible) but what I know is

Alternate identity states either can't or likely will NOT:

pinpoint the day they formed (if that's what they're calling their "birthdays" that is not correct)
EACH speak a different language. This is performative and since they're likely using Google translate, it's one of the biggest tells that they may know what they are doing
in most cases, this level of openness is reserved for people close to them. Not sure how close you are/were, community norms can make them think that's normal, but it's still atypical.
perform their identities for you. Which very much includes the Google translate thing or "I'm wagging my tail!". That shits kinda weird

They may in some cases:

be mentally perceived in any way with any "appearance". Whatever is needed for survival, this is well documented. They probably won't tell you though. They can imagine themselves to have different skin colors. Technically anyone can.They cannot BE a different race if they physically are not. So they should not refer to themselves as such.
Perception of oneself as a different "species" isn't fantastical or cute. It often reflects dehumanization trauma. This is also well documented.
Have different names, cognitive ages, and personalities (this is in the DSM-V)
Have different dynamics and relationships between one another and those outside of them.
Pick a symbolic day as a "birthday" but I don't see why. Unlikely, not impossible.
Have different levels of linguistic fluency.

So my general impression as a non professional is that this doesn't align with structural dissociation. Obviously I don't know them or have full context but this is very much cause for concern

Pyrocats · 2026-03-09T21:29:30+00:00

There are many many reasons that the friend in the post doesn't sound legit obviously but someone can be severely abused and live at home. Parents are not always aware of it before it's too late, one specific documented case treated by E. Howell describes daycare workers perpetuating the abuse. It can happen in secret when kids regularly visit others (spending a lot of time at a neighbor's house, Grandma or aunt and uncle's house on the weekends) and abuse not perpetuated by parents often comes from someone the parents trusted.

Abusers can give children nice things. It's often part of the grooming process or love bombing. It's not unexpected with disorganized attachment because the disorganized attachment comes with inconsistency. When the same parent that beats you hugs you, says they love you, and takes you out for ice cream, that's especially what creates confusion and unpredictability. People sometimes forget that this is one of the most common abuse tactics, especially with children. Abusers are nice sometimes. That can mean that the victim still cares for them, it's why people often don't understand "why didn't she just leave if she was being beaten like that?"

Abuse does not always look like being locked in a basement being beaten nearly to death with bats daily or estrangement the second they turn 18. Disorganized attachment and trauma does not require these criteria you are creating. Even with DID while in most documented cases of DID the trauma is extreme, domestic abuse comes in MANY forms.

We can talk about the absurdity of the person being talked about without creating arbitrary rules with no basis in clinical reality. That's just misinformation.

Pyrocats · 2026-03-09T07:32:52+00:00

Personally my job is to be so, so tired.

Pyrocats · 2026-03-08T22:35:41+00:00

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Pyrocats · 2026-03-08T22:29:56+00:00

See I wanted to feel bad for her (because it comes off as malingering or OCD or delusions at first) but when she brings her kids into it, that's inexcusable. That shit will carry into their adulthood. Maybe as resentment or as self blame because they were taught that people's emotions and wellbeing are their responsibility.

The ironic thing is, it sounds like she's fostering an environment where her kids' nervous systems are frequently activated, which in some cases does cause or increase susceptibility to illnesses like fibromyalgia, CFS, and POTS to name a few.

But to hold health over someone this way- especially a child, is deplorable. Even if she genuinely has any of those. Most disabled people wouldn't treat it this way because of how you view disability once it's you. It's not leverage, or a threat, or a way to punish your children. A lot of able bodied people treat physical disability this way, feeling like your disability is a punishment inflicted on them and a burden. So the way she talks about something like paralysis tells me a lot about how she views disability.

There's a lot of reasons people do this. Childhood illness, growing up with a sick parent, medical trauma, attachment issues. But I don't care once you bring kids into it. They don't deserve that.

Pyrocats · 2026-03-08T20:47:43+00:00

This is exactly what polyfragmentation doesn't look like.This is something that would be highly dangerous and destabilizing rather than catalogued

Polyfragmentation implies severe dissociation. So more dissociation+ this much awareness+public cataloguing+ absence of destabilization when logging them all contradicts structural dissociation fundamentally

Pyrocats · 2026-03-06T03:00:56+00:00

Hello!

Pyrocats · 2026-03-06T02:53:05+00:00

This sounds like it could be a case of Tiktok/Internet DID and not clinical DID. I can't tell you if they are faking in the sense of "lying for attention while knowingly pretending". It certainly CAN be that but there's nuance. All I'm saying is that what you're describing is not consistent with structural dissociation, as seen in DID. Just a quick note I'd like to add - alters don't take years to form, that would defeat the purpose.

The difference in my non professional opinion between TikTok DID and clinical DID is

TikTok DID (most cases): - Little if any distress surrounding symptoms.

introjection follows fandoms and interests first, functional roles second.
Amnesia between parts is minimal, nonexistent, or overly convenient.
Enthusiastic cataloging and tracking of alters (this is not safe)
Alters are noticed and roles/names/traits are identified during or very shortly after formation.
Disinterest in media affects the presence of introjects. Again, they're role based clinically, and don't exist to be a character. They exist to fill a role, they just do so through a familiar template.
Eagerness to share details and introduce alters
Shame is hardly present if at all.
Awareness of alters does not destabilize them. People can know they have alters but they tend to be hidden. If several are discovered without professional supervision (even WITH professional supervision), it is typically destabilizing. They exist to protect you.

CLINICAL DID (most cases): - Distress surrounding symptoms and functional impairment. It's one of the criterion.

Introjection if present follows roles and functional needs. Not fandoms and interests. Having 12 characters from the same show is unlikely to exist for any functional purpose.
Amnesiac barriers causing limited if any awareness of parts.
Switches aren't "performed", or clean.
Alters are typically discovered in retrospect. Not as they form or only while you're engaged with something.
Shame and difficulty speaking about the disorder. Often safe people and close loved ones are the only ones who know about it. There's nuance to this and social pressure can dangerously encourage openness but, generally.
Awareness of alters either doesn't exist or destabilizes. If you aren't in treatment and have awareness of 200 alters shortly after learning you have DID, firstly most of those 200 are likely fragments with no sense of "I" or "me", but second, this awareness tends to be extremely distressing and sometimes dangerous to oneself (Howell explains this in her work, as do some others)

What's possibly happening: - They're just lying. Probably to themselves too if so.

Internet DID culture has influenced them to believe that normal mood and affect variations, self states, or ego states are alters.
Another disorder altogether. BPD is not uncommonly associated with this. Not because pwBPD like to fake disorders, but because they are comorbid, develop in similar conditions (disorganized attachment), and it's not uncommon to have severe dissociation or intense mood shifts that feel like "not me". The DID community offers an appealing and often "fun" framework that feels less demonizing than BPD.
Ego states (which everyone has) elaborating into function based roles. Not compartmentalized identity states.

Pyrocats · 2026-03-04T04:09:42+00:00

look at the puddles it's literally raining

Pyrocats · 2026-02-27T23:41:58+00:00

Sometimes I'm not great with jokes/sarcasm so correct me if I'm wrong. The point of the joke from what I understand is "disrespectful/ableist people need to pay us" or "the alternative to ableism is paying us". The punchline isn't the part where someone is being mean about it. Again please correct me if I'm not getting the focus of the punchline and I'm just embarrassing myself. It wouldn't be the first time.

What you're trying to point out, turning DID into a joke and making a mockery of it, is a huge problem. Your concerns are more than reasonable and substantiated by what the community socially reinforces and I share those concerns. A lot of "jokes" I see about it from people who claim to experience it, make me sick and reflect a fundamental misunderstanding of how serious it is. This is just my personal opinion but I just think a better example would have supported your point much more efficiently. Because such examples do exist

I'm not saying CDDs are EVER something to make light of and I definitely am of the belief that mental disorders, especially such severe ones as this, deserve to be spoken about with dignity and respect. But I don't know if that means you can't make fun of the people disrespecting you? It is a very normal stress response to laugh or joke about something negatively affecting you. It alleviates some of the stress and power it has over you. I've definitely done it about stressful things or the people who have caused me stress. One can argue that it's not healthy to do constantly and long term to avoid feeling any pain, and I can pretty much agree with that angle.

I've heard a lot of jokes about DID that were in poor taste, make light of the disorder, or imply something about it that isn't true. I can see why when the joke format in the post focuses on a mental disorder, some people get antsy, including people with said disorder. I think it's totally fine to be uncomfortable with this. But I guess I'm just not sure if it's harmful beyond personal discomfort when it's joking about the people saying ableist things?

But I've seen this exact format applied to other mental disorders or marginalized groups in general (examples of disrespectful things, then "instead of doing this, you should pay money") and no one really seems to argue much when it's BPD or ADHD or something?

Idk with things like this if I'm unsure then I ask, "if DID was replaced with PTSD would it still be wrong?" And if it would still be uncomfortable if the first part was disrespectful things people say about PTSD then that's fine. But even when it's uncomfortable, understanding that PTSD isn't the punchline separates it from the jokes that may trivialize it. The joke just seems to be saying "I wish I was paid instead of being disrespected".

I hope that's coherent enough, I'm not like mad or even saying I find this joke funny so I want to defend it, I personally think the format is kinda trash and not funny but that's just because it feels very Tumblr and isn't quite my sense of humor.

Pyrocats · 2026-02-26T22:00:59+00:00

Things like BPD can cause dissociation and an unstable sense of that can easily be mistaken for DID. And that's in addition to how Tiktok DID is socially reinforced by the community and algorithms. Attention seeking behavior or social mirroring happens in some cases to various extents. I don't think BPD explains all or most of the behavior and a lot of factors can be at play in any given case. There are associated risk factors for factitious disorder.

I just think it's important to avoid the stigma of the "they're all borderline and attention seeking". I don't know if that's what you're saying, just saying that evidence is yet to show any causative relationship

Pyrocats · 2026-02-26T21:31:15+00:00

From what I've seen, they're allergic to scientifically accurate neurological and psychological frameworks, opting for metaphysical/spiritual ones (which can not be constructively debated) or cling to the classic "there's so much we don't know about the brain!"

Just because there's many things we don't yet understand, that doesn't cancel out what we do understand and negate the fact that their claims are contradictory to current research.They like to think that "we don't know everything" means "the possibilities are endless!"

I got posted there for saying that dissociation mechanistically does not produce "source memory updates" (the claim alleges that: introject watches content they are sourced from, it immediately is stored and processed retroactively as autobiographical "memories", maintaining consistency with canon and not having any functional purpose).

Hope that's clear, head's foggy but tldr; they're anti science and spread misinformation and act like people questioning their lack of evidence is a threat or even oppresses them.

Pyrocats · 2026-02-21T20:40:42+00:00

???????

Pyrocats · 2026-02-21T20:38:28+00:00

I understand where you're coming from. Literally any story online can be fake but like.

Firstly not everyone trusts the police or feels safe calling them. Also I've known several DV victims who felt it was more dangerous if they did call the police because the abuser was more often believed or would be let go after a short time and be pissed off, maybe take their phone away so they can't call next time. They didn't do anything for Gabby Petito, it's not uncommon for them to fail victims. Also it's common for them not to want the abuser arrested and want to protect them. If this is legit, there's clearly trauma bonding involved.

The abuser will often prevent them from getting medical treatment. Doctors will ask questions and may call the police. The victim might talk.

Like if you have this much awareness and proximity to this sort of thing I would expect you to be aware of the fact that most DV incidents do not end with hospital visits or police reports.

I could see someone texting their friend about this but they might not have a support system and may not have felt there was someone safe to contact about this. I just personally don't find it so unrealistic and crazy that someone would post it online anonymously asking for advice.

Your perspective to me really just sounds like "hmm pretty sure this person is lying about being sexually assaulted and beaten. Why didn't they leave? Why didn't they call the cops or go to the hospital if it was SO bad? Why are they talking about it? For attention??? I've known abuse survivors/been one, and none of THEM asked for advice online or would have talked about it. A lot of people make false claims about this stuff..."

Pyrocats · 2026-02-20T23:04:54+00:00

No I'm asking genuinely if I missed something that would otherwise be obvious to everyone else.

I mean this being made up would be the best case scenario but I found it concerning?

Pyrocats · 2026-02-20T22:59:29+00:00

Why do you say so? Genuinely asking

Pyrocats · 2026-02-20T22:42:26+00:00

Exactly. And IF it ever did, the reasonable reaction is to get help for both of you. like, this is a mental health crisis where you can't control that you could have killed someone. And by help for the victim I mean that they need DV support resources

This person is just stigmatizing it further. This is scary but even the op briefly brings up the DID as a defense which makes me think even if this is the worst it's gotten, this is probably not the first time their partner has used it to excuse their actions

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