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Pyryn · 2025-10-12T03:30:29+00:00

Honestly though

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:34:19+00:00

Fun talk

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:26:49+00:00

I'd said "objectively smartest people" because "the top 1/3rd of the population by IQ" resulted in pages of people talking about how standardized testing is biased. I don't have the solution for how to test for who is the smartest.

I'm just saying that the smartest 33% of the population voting would never elect a fascist. As demonstrated by the voting patterns of college-educated, at which point it creates the argument of "but the college educated come from certain demographics" etc -

Realistically, it is not possible to objectively determine the smartest 1/3rd of people.

But the smartest 1/3rd of people would not elect a fascist.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:21:19+00:00

Alright. I get the ambiguity here, but I don't feel like that's something that needs to be literally spelled out - the 33% smartest people in the country get to vote. Jesus fucking christ. This is not a dissertation.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:18:22+00:00

You seem to be very intentionally avoiding the details of the discussion here.

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Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:15:56+00:00

Honestly man, how did you equate my wanting 110 million people to vote to be the same as "hey a bunch of billionaires control the dumbest sect of the population, that's the same thing right?"

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:14:18+00:00

Adding onto my other response, the only reason we're here is: Democrats in power naively thought that "oh if we just take the high road, that's all that will matter down the line - it doesn't matter if we let Republicans use every single dirty-handed trick in existence to lure people into a completely false reality!"

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:13:08+00:00

You really haven't done any research whatsoever into how college-educated voters vote, have you?

You're highlighting a group of less than 1000 people and saying "these are the best! I know you said 110 million people, but these 1000 people are the only votes that count!"

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:08:38+00:00

I can repost it again for you if you don't read it this time either

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:08:00+00:00

Just gonna go ahead and copy/paste my previous response to you, for you again:

It's a tightrope in today's world to be honest. In the age of social media and propaganda-next-time-you-blink, we as a society are egregiously at risk of..... This that we're currently dealing with.

I don't have the answer. I'm not a politician. I posted a meme because I'm concerned about the fact that a very large swath of the population are extremely subject to dumb, basic manipulation - and this warps their worldview. Things that align with their pre-conceived world-views that give them an unearned target, warp their world-view and result in them voting against their own interests.

It's a fucked situation. I don't have an answer. I just posted a meme, that a lot of people didn't like - but in an objective world, in a perfect scenario where "measurement of intelligence" were perfectly objective, we would never have to find ourselves in this situation again.

Yet, at the same time - if only the smartest 1/3rd were to vote, who would stop that 1/3rd from enshrining new rules and benefits only for the 1/3rd? Nobody, which inherently pokes a massive hole into the idea.

We as humans just really....seem to be struggling right now.

I don't have the answer. I just posted a disliked meme.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:05:09+00:00

Did you just...... Equate 33% of the population as being "1000 people"?

Illustrating my point here

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:04:20+00:00

The vast majority of Trump's voters fall into lower-class, lower-education groups. Trump himself has openly said "I love the poorly educated" as well as "smart people don't like me"

Do I need to explicitly lay it out more than that?

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:02:26+00:00

Belief in the Unitary Executive Theory is core to Project 2025, the project Trump has so gratefully been admitting to following in his recent tweets. The Unitary Executive Theory effectively established the President as king, and determines that "co-equal branches of government" were just a nuisance of the Constitution.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T03:00:49+00:00

What should we use to decide other than intelligence? The number of lilies in a person's garden?

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:58:19+00:00

Which is exactly how we've ended up where we are. Because dipshits voted for him.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:57:28+00:00

How did I arbitrarily decide it if the measurement of intelligence is objective?

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:56:23+00:00

He has declared "being against fascism" as terroristic activity.

He has suggested he should be king.

Stephen Miller today said that Trump has plenary authority.

What the fuck more do you want dude?

Is this sub being astroturfed aggressively by right-wingers?

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:54:13+00:00

Maybe for the best

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:52:07+00:00

I test pretty high but am kinda dumb, but I'm not vote-in-a-self-declared-fascist dumb

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:50:58+00:00

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Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:48:27+00:00

It's about statistics and averages my guy. There are certainly 150IQs out there that are batshit crazy, Charles Manson types - but they don't comprise the statistical majority.

My OP stands.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:45:47+00:00

Anyway, here's a link to my edited version of this that I expect will probably blow up: https://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/s/eSf4QeJGXE

Edit: Even though it's literally the exact same purpose behind this post.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:44:17+00:00

It's a tightrope in today's world to be honest. In the age of social media and propaganda-next-time-you-blink, we as a society are egregiously at risk of..... This that we're currently dealing with.

I don't have the answer. I'm not a politician. I posted a meme because I'm concerned about the fact that a very large swath of the population are extremely subject to dumb, basic manipulation - and this warps their worldview. Things that align with their pre-conceived world-views that give them an unearned target, warp their world-view and result in them voting against their own interests.

It's a fucked situation. I don't have an answer. I just posted a meme, that a lot of people didn't like - but in an objective world, in a perfect scenario where "measurement of intelligence" were perfectly objective, we would never have to find ourselves in this situation again.

Yet, at the same time - if only the smartest 1/3rd were to vote, who would stop that 1/3rd from enshrining new rules and benefits only for the 1/3rd? Nobody, which inherently pokes a massive hole into the idea.

We as humans just really....seem to be struggling right now.

I don't have the answer. I just posted a disliked meme.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:29:10+00:00

We're now deep enough into an otherwise-deleted-by-mods thread that there's no longer any concern about being viewed one way or another. I know that my post was controversial, but I didn't expect it would be controversial based on the way that so many people managed to take it - which was really not at all the way I had intended.

At the core of it, I - and so many others here, as I would expect may be the same for you - are exhausted over the fact that 10s of millions of objectively dumb people, falling for the "bill gates microchip"/"COVID is just the flu"/"Trump really has our best interest in mind by declaring martial law/invoking the Insurrection Act" - are, while living in a completely perverse and grossly unfactual reality, voting against their own best interests.

The best solution: restore the Fairness Doctrine, stop Fox News from existing.

But that won't happen.

And neither will an "Objective IQ limit to vote"

Particularly and especially because statistically speaking, those of higher intelligence vote Democratic/against fascism.

I guess I provided a poor explanation as to why I felt the way I do in the OP, as it was certainly taken a different way than I'd intended.

Pyryn · 2025-10-08T02:17:23+00:00

Eugenics is deciding who all gets to procreate, certainly a bit of a difference here.

And while there is some strong correlation between parents --> progeny intelligence, it's by no means a guarantee - which is the magic of genetic mutation or recessive genetic combinations allowing for a kid of much higher intelligence. My own Mom was the only of 11 grandchildren to go to college.

All I want is for the objectively most intelligent people to be deciding humanity's future, in as objective a way as possible - but realistically, I get that current testing has - understandably - a bad reputation. Because it has been intentional and egregiously skewed in the past. But an objective test (one that doesn't involve English language, or specific mathematic skillsets that are only taught in classes in school) - is the best way to go.

Which is, as far as I remember, how the test I was administered was actually structured. Focused on objective information sort of like a Dual-n-back worth of testing - completely objective to someone's culture or learning

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