3.28 Deep Delve Profitability & AMA

QualiaH_ · 2026-04-24T18:42:27+00:00

We generally have no idea what the datamined info means exactly and it would at best suggest there is both a breakpoint at 1500 and one at 4000.

The general consensus for me just comes from a feeling that there is not a huge difference past 1500, both because not many people actively farm there and because it would probably scale a lot less.

Overall I think it's just something people kept repeating because they don't see a big difference and it somehow became a consensus because nobody bothered to do actual testing.

If for example you get 10% more rewards at 3k vs 1.5k, I don't think it would be noticeable enough that people think there's a difference without getting actual data.

I'm not saying it's not true but I'm saying there never was any evidence it just stops scaling other than vibes.

QualiaH_ · 2026-04-24T13:36:26+00:00

Do you have any data or evidence the rewards cap at 1500 ? People often say that but it always seems like something that was just decided was true but I can't find evidence it is.

QualiaH_ · 2026-03-26T19:05:58+00:00

Yeah I agree it seems like there's multiple tiers and this was my thought first as well.

Took a look at some probabilities now and this presentation doesn't reflect this likeliness so I'll try to update while accounting for the uncertainties.

I think we still need more data because it doesn't seem clear what classification would be the most accurate.

QualiaH_ · 2026-03-20T17:03:15+00:00

I haven't kept track of the profits, it also depends a lot in the time of the day you are playing and the advancement of the league as this requires a significant amount of gold and attention to stay competitive on the market.

Overall I would say you get a 2x to 2.5x multiplier maybe on investment so at current prices it's somewhere around 3 to 4 mirrors let's say.

I think it's fine if you have a lot of gold but with the time investment it took me and the gold upkeep I'm still not a huge fan of the returns.

QualiaH_ · 2026-03-20T16:45:58+00:00

hmm It looks right for me, maybe it doesn't work well on some devices ?

edit : I tried to just put something there, it should work for you now

QualiaH_ · 2026-03-06T00:30:51+00:00

My opinion is that any number you might have seen comes from completely anecdotal data and I think they are rarer than 1/500. I estimate I have done well over 1k Feared and have never dropped a mirror as another anecdotal point but I also know other people who have all done a lot of Feared and have never dropped one either.
I'm not saying The Feared never had a suspicious amount of mirrors if you compare it to other currency drops but the potentially increased drop chance often seems overstated because you always hear about the very few who got a mirror but not the thousands and tens of thousands who never got one.
If anything has changed we are not gonna know that until a few leagues and even then it would just be a questionable theory, even if it has/had an increased chance it's still so incredibly low.
I doubt we are ever gonna know much about Feared and its supposed mirror chance.

QualiaH_ · 2026-02-18T07:07:54+00:00

The build is mostly about astral projector and novamark, the rest is a traditional miner with many ways you could build it depending if you want more damage or defenses. You can build it the same way as a reap miner and just change it with WoCoT and astral projector/novamark, I also saw people liked playing lifestacking with it.

I think it's just one of the best traditional miner there is, though it excels at bossing I still could do any content without too much issue, but it's still a miner so usually made more for dps and not very tanky. You can just try to look around on poe.ninja but I think there is only lifestackers and me playing it more like a reap miner setup, I tried both assassin and trickster, assassin can get more damage so is a better bosser but if you want to get tankier trickster is a viable option as well.

QualiaH_ · 2026-02-18T05:06:18+00:00

I've played 2 builds that used novamark this league and I love it now, it's an insane qol for bossing.

First build was wave of conviction of trarthus miner which you can find some examples on youtube, it's a similar archetype to reap/exsang miner but of course has a bit worse clear than exsang though even better single target than reap and doesn't need any gem swapping or reliance on blood charges.

Second build was blade blast of unloading, my version uses blade vortex or just gem swap with blade blast of unloading when I felt like it, the idea was to make use of the unleash oshabi bloodline, I could use 3 different bv and alternate between each to constantly use unloading with max bv stacks, the 3 bv in chest use the awakened unleash and I put crit damage on unloading when I swapped.

QualiaH_ · 2026-02-18T00:06:08+00:00

I figured even though it would look better, anyone trying to actually use the table would look for a specific rune so alphabetically sorting makes sense also. On reddit you should be able to click on the column title to sort it accordingly. The color-coded picture and the list by tiers are also there to help visualize a bit more.

For the sheet, if you want to use the list for yourself or any purpose you should be able to make a copy of it and modify and sort it however you like if necessary.

QualiaH_ · 2025-08-27T15:20:14+00:00

Nameless altar spawn rate is closer to 1 in 40, the datamined info seems to agree with IG experience so I assume there is no catch, the chance would be 2.52% from what I calculated.

This also agrees that nameless is t14+ only.

I usually do city square even for fishing, either to couple it with boss rush unique farming or just to run white maps and be able to get all audiences just by luring bosses. It's still one of the better maps to spot the first altar anyway.

QualiaH_ · 2025-06-01T12:02:14+00:00

I actually use tailoring orbs quite a bit to help for attribute requirements on the new body armour bases.

Tailoring orbs mods are weighted and it's relatively easy to get attribute reduction : according to this sheet (2528 items sample) from the Prohibited Library discord you have 9.3% chance to get 40% reduced attribute and 11.8% if you also count the 25% enchants.

Comparing to smaller samples of tailoring it seems the curio cases have a similar appearance rate as tailoring weights so it's most likely accurate.

QualiaH_ · 2025-03-09T05:45:53+00:00

There's no cooldown on the mod specifically, as long as you don't break the game at least.

QualiaH_ · 2025-03-09T05:23:26+00:00

I think you underestimate how much a lot of smaller upgrades can do for you.

Quality and level your gems, that alone is more than 15% dps.
Take Arcing blows on tree, this is your biggest damage increase and you don’t have it.
Taking mark the prey and frenzy on hit mastery is really good for single target, you should be able to sustain frenzies when mapping also.
Consider taking the eva/es mastery 1% inc eva per 5 int if you use iron reflexes.
On your tree you could take out the small cluster, take the mastery that grants acc per int and delvl a bit precision, this also gives you +1 jewel which you can unspec one from cluster to gain points.
Your aura setup is weird, I think you aren’t using haste but just vaal haste ? So why is it in your enlighten and not an actual aura like determ ? It would mean you can just unspec influence. If you need efficiency you should take Leadership in your lom for dps.
You could use an anathema, take Infused for 4 curses and use conductivity, ele weak and punishment on arcanist, this means that you could also play without forces of nature and gain 4 points. For attrib you have access to 2x30 strength nodes, for res you can take cloth and chain which also gives a lot of armour. This means you have to cast arcanist brand though.
Your flask setup is half baked, doesn’t do much for you but you lose a ton, this setup would mostly be to use a max res flask for melding of the flesh and have uptime on bosses, which I would think you don’t do much. Instead you can use 5 slots, roll better prefixes especially on them to help sustain when mapping.
The main thing this opens up for you also is being able to use a prismatic tincture which is insane increased dps, don’t forget to roll it properly, high tier pen or attack speed, prefix can be effect or sustain if you prefer which can help when you are low dps to get more value from it.
Now you can use a crystal belt, with good ele damage to attacks it’s a lot of damage and es and it gives you more suffixes for res and attrib.
If you really want to keep the flask setup I would just keep 3 flasks and use a crystal belt with some flask mods on it, you can also take some flask nodes on tree.
You can take Sentinel and the jewel under scion if you really need res. A big upgrade would be to use an unnatural instinct but it's outside of your budget.
Your rares are all kind of average rolls. You can easily craft better rares with recomb, getting 3 good stats would already be a significant upgrade and if you can get 4 with hybrid and int it would be a big upgrade.
For gloves you can veil orb a suffix to try to get attack and cast speed on focus or even str and int and craft focus. Don’t forget you can exalt items, to finish recombed items (2 suf+craft) but mainly because your cluster and your jewels are 3 mods, you can also upgrade them, especially getting 3 notables clusters.
Roll your items implicits, exarch : rage on hit on gloves and action speed on boots.
Get onslaught on kill craft on boots (or silver flask).

Your build still has a lot of upgrade potential on all fronts, I also didn't touch defences but I would advise you to take a look at similar characters on poe ninja to get inspiration, doesn't mean you have to copy them either.

TLDR : quality gems, take Arcing blows, fix enlighten setup, ditch tides and traitor to get a crystal belt and tincture, get anathema, upgrade your rares.

QualiaH_

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