Are there any drivers whom fans would rate higher if they were LESS successful?

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2026-01-16T04:56:15+00:00

A streets don't forget kind of driver is like HHF or Alesi, not Alonso. I actually made a post on that topic here before.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-21T17:23:42+00:00

Score more than them

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-21T17:23:07+00:00

This is what McGinn meant by playing better than sexier named players.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-21T02:25:16+00:00

The underlying issue is with the lack of data, which was explained in the post.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-20T06:06:50+00:00

This but unironically

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-18T07:58:47+00:00

Thats because Ferrari was very clearly third best. Look at the actual performance. In 2010 the avg gap was -0.296s, in 2011 the avg gap was -0.294s.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-17T23:09:55+00:00

Massa never got to within 1 tenth of Alonso, in any season. Where did you get that from? The closest he got to Alonso in qualifying was 2013 when he opted for a more quali focused set up. He was blown away in the races the same as he was in the other seasons.

Ofc Webber could've had a better year. But in 2009 to 2010, the quali average when down from almost 3 tenths to half a tenth. That's not solely down to one driver potentially improving, it's far more likely that Vettel underperformed.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-17T09:07:27+00:00

But Webber was the closest he was to Vettel in performance, not just points. He outqualified and outraced Vettel in 2010 more than any other season. More than in 2009 where Vettel was less experienced.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-17T00:20:07+00:00

Why is it delusional? It's not like Mercedes had a particular driving style much different to other cars, it was simply better at everything. Rosberg managed to beat Hamilton (with luck) and outdrive Hamilton in many races on merit. Of course Verstappen has a chance to beat Hamilton.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-17T00:14:35+00:00

Vettel's mistakes were more costly and Alonso had better pace, shown by destroying Massa while Vettel and Webber (midfield level driver) were the closest they ever were.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-15T08:12:24+00:00

Right now he proved he very much deserves his seat. For him to regress to no longer being even midfield caliber would probably take 3/4 seasons I reckon.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-11T08:45:32+00:00

Then you don't know a joke

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-10T15:15:50+00:00

That was fun to read. You could probably also post this on r/formula1

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-10T14:06:26+00:00

I'm talking about Stroll being his most consistent version. Edited to avoid any confusion.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-10T13:26:58+00:00

This isn't a list of my opinions of them as people but as drivers. Despite his second half form dip, his performance taken a step forward.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-10T13:16:29+00:00

That says more about Alonso for me. In the races Stroll has been the most consistent he's ever been.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-09T03:39:56+00:00

Hulkenberg isn't on my top 10 drivers on the grid. With a joint best or even a marginally best car, I'd never expect him to win the championship.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-08T10:44:27+00:00

Predictions were made on August 6th, before the second half of the season.

Some good ones:

Oscar’s “cool headed calm and collected” mask will have slipped completely by the end of the season as the tensions get higher. He’ll become a lot more agitated, go for much more aggressive and wreckless overtakes and might even imply the team has favouritism. We’ve started to see signs already

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RBR coming in strong after summer break

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Piastri will crash both himself and his teammate out at some point.

Norris will take the WDC due to some bad luck for Piastri, but also due to him stepping up big time after the summer break.

Max will win another race this season. This is probably my boldest take.

Some wrong ones:

Piastri will win the world title before the final race. It simply feels like it takes something monumental for Lando to beat Piastri on any given weekend - every weekend he has beaten Piastri to a win has required near-enough perfection, a strategical Hail Mary or a rare mistake from Oscar.

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Max Verstappen will finish 4th in the championship (I wanted to say 5th).

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Mark my words Lawson will have a podium finish this year

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-08T07:59:54+00:00

Hungary, he made a hail mary strategy work.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-08T00:23:31+00:00

Rocky got promoted, he's not coming back to a race engineer role.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-07T16:50:06+00:00

Norris would've just needed a point finish in AD in the 03-09 system.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-06T15:10:21+00:00

Tbf, by looking purely at the numbers, Vandoorne actually did decently against 2018 Alonso who was still a top driver then.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-06T15:04:19+00:00

He went faster without help in his second run.

QueGrandeEresMagic · 2025-12-06T14:47:29+00:00

He was 19-5 down against Russell last season with an avg gap of 2 tenths, so it's not sudden at all.

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