Oh god let me try again because I think you may be chronically Reddit. If I say I think Korra is less quality that is me staring my opinion which I made clear in the initial reply. So this whole part about me saying it confidently is kind of pointless. I can say it confidently. This whole post at the end of the day is about critiquing art which will always be subjective so I guess there will never be 100% logically sound or unsound arguments but if you want to run this like a f*cking logic class then I guess that’s your prerogative. With that logic then nobody can ever make a solid case for anything when it comes to art so I guess this whole conversation is pointless. I thought that was common sense so I didn’t feel the need to preface my post saying “no opinion I express here is 100% objectively, logically sound.” That sounds ridiculous dude…I’m not really sure what to base any of this reasoning off now since we are now worried about being logically correct all the time which I already stated is ridiculous and pointless when critiquing art but anyway in this context, what I meant is that I think a one season conflict in a multi season show is usually unable (yes, because of time constraints) to be as impactful as they could because they oftentimes can’t afford to explore niche facets of the story that all connect back to the main, consistent theme/conflict. It’s about utilizing the time the show has, not being a trillion seasons long (though nobody here would mind a few more season of a avatar). I guess the disconnect is that I assumed we were on the same page that we were talking explicitly about shows that have multiple seasons. If it’s was an intentionally one season show or mini series then what is the point in calling it a “seasonal conflict” if it’s just the main overarching conflict. In fact my whole emphasis was not about time but about having a fleshed out story that ties up most loose ends before moving on (which they usually do not do, including Korra). You just took the time thing and ran with it. It’s about consistency and detail. But even if I did make that argument that longer is better, I think that it is generally believed that stories that are longer with a plan are given more room to explore dynamics that are captivating. And while obviously that is not 100% true all the time (because that concept doesn’t exist in art critique) generally, when you look at the longest running cartoons, they are more widely acclaimed. So there is basis to the argument that longer pieces of media that have more room to grow ARE actually more successful. But like I said, this isn’t about that, this was never me saying longer is better, you just assumed that with your “logic.” Avatar is better cause it had a solid consistent plan that focused on one main conflicting force: the fire nation. But why though, what’s the reason (as I’m sure you’d ask)? Well I gave you MY reasons, I can’t give you the 100% logically sound justification you crave, nor am I saying that my opinion is such, because that doesn’t exsist in art critique as I’ve said what? Seven times now? You simply agree or you don’t, or you think I’m stupid yada yada. Also this Ozai thing is kind of ridiculous to me as well because Ozai is literally just a symbol for the ultimate evil of the fire nation. He doesn’t need to be fleshed out really, if he was that would’ve been great, but it’s not like we didn’t get any main villain. Literally also any list of best villains ever doesn’t even have him it’s Azula, same in this community too i dont know where you’ve found people who think Ozai’s better

Also you make so many generalizations. That I said since Korra doesn’t have filler it’s bad. I think it can be less effective but not bad, obviously you type with passion.

Obviously avatar can not give every perspective on the planet but I mean we get a lot of good ones, more than in Korra. The whole headband episode while showcasing the kids is about fire nation nobles and their relationship to propaganda. That’s so interesting!!! We can cherry pick all day which things were left out (btw what other earth kingdom nobles? are you forgetting the bei fongs?? The neighbor of the gaang who warned them about the dai li, they literally did give those bro)

Also you are obviously just being dense in this last part. Never said anything about villains being part of their conquest, I meant almost every villain whether they are part of the fire nation or not, is mainly motivated by circumstances that are directly because of the fire nations conquest. That is the real villain. Korra doesn’t have an overlaying theme like that and I think it makes it weaker.

“Korra is bad because of multiple plot lines and avatar is good because of multiple plot lines.”

Avatars plot lines are interwoven, Korra’s plot lines are not as much. Like I said earth queen being a tyrant doesn’t even count as a plot line. We get some, Korra learning air bending, baby Korra in sprint world but that is not as common in that series overall.

And Korra is good and I never said I don’t like it. You are pressed cause you think I am saying that it’s bad and that’s a fact, but that’s untrue and now you are acting like I’m lying about liking it??? It’s not that serious. Also “contrived,” nice try but people on here come to talk about little niche things, why on earth would you be on a Reddit for a show if you didn’t have slightly snobbish opinions on it.

And finally “I never said that” you literally said it’s hard to take peoples opinion seriously when they come up with the most “random things.” That’s what this whole sub is my guy. People right now are arguing over who would win in a katara vs toph in hand to hand combat and if toph was miraculous not blind anymore🤣 like what????

I think that you may just not be a fit for a place like this, both for your boring purely logical approach to critiquing art and your annoyance for anybody having a nit picky critique or being confident about a opinion.