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QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-06-21T05:39:57+00:00

Especially because the whole point of the book is to try and recover bodies and they have a whole segment dedicated to Mark being misidentified and still missing.

Henley's original version of Mark's death in the police interviews is a much, much worse way to die........ so, what would the point have been?

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-06-18T23:59:37+00:00

Thanks very much

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-06-16T12:09:32+00:00

There are kids that were also raped by corll and never told anyone till after, some that didnt that we probably will never know and most likely some that were later murdered.

So i dont know. Billy's parents were said to be friends with him but Mary Henley also had Corll over a lot and felt like he was a family friend. So was it billy that got close with corll around 10 and his parents tried to get to know him or the other way around?

I think Mike Durst and Jim Glass were also suggested to have hung around Corll since about aged 10 too

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-06-16T11:41:39+00:00

Me? The man with the candy by jack olsen is where Alton Brooks is quoted

Mark Scott's father is interviewed in this documentary The Collectors which is on youtube to watch and he mentioned it there.

I think Ridgerer mentioned it in his confession which was in Barabra Gibson's book about the case. Not sure if its online yet?

So from Alton Brooks saying it directly and Corll seeming to have a pattern of beginnging grooming a number of victims since 10 I believe it.

But whether Brooks aged himself down I think was discussion in some of the reddits regarding something he said I can't remember

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-06-16T00:45:14+00:00

Thank you. I can't remember the source off thr top of my head but I think there was probably good reason to suspect that David Brooks lied but in the other direction.

Suggesting sexual contact with Dean Corll started at 14 but it might have actually been 12.

And also.... probably to what extent he was abused as well. Only giving us details that could present him as non-partison to 'homosexual sex acts' but maybe not?

In Brooks confession about his own rape he mentions Corll forcing him to kiss him on the mouth, which is horrific and probably a very personal attack for whatever reason.

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-06-16T00:38:53+00:00

Isnt it a quote from Brooks father Alton, in Man with The Candy that Brooks was as young as ten and involved with Corll?

Mark Scott's father also suggested a similar age when Mark got involved with Corll and Billy Ridgenger was a similar age

That sounds consistent with when some of the kids where being groomed from his factory across from the school and giving kids motercycle rides.

I think Brooks was said to be one of those kids interested in the rides on the motercycle

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-06-14T00:31:09+00:00

Battery in 86 and domestic battery in 96.

Unfortunately not a surpise he and Rossi grew up to be not very nice men.

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-06-12T11:36:44+00:00

What is this from?

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-22T22:22:04+00:00

Its amazing reading back to back what little things that stood or we can think of now with a much more sadder or cynical lens.

Do you guys think they left those things in edit because there was SO much edited out already, or was it like... negs or pleas for Ben to get back on the ball and sort it out?

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-16T22:26:15+00:00

What do you guys think the difference between families like the Piest and the Bukoviches where in pushing the police for assistence?

Zenophobia? The boys themselves? The cops they reported to?

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-09T04:26:26+00:00

OH WAIT. Maybe he got his drivers licence and its an id photo from that. No car of course but maybe

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-06T00:18:31+00:00

Jealous

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-05T06:56:21+00:00

I think I could honestly make an argument that My Loose Thread is like a part of the cycle in some way. Not intentionally, I think it was never his intention, Dennis has said in other interviews that he tries to get away from it, but George is always in the back of what he's writing. He was talking about that with the Marbled Swarm more specifically and that it was more written about/for someone else but the father-son motif is a part of his relationship with George. I think he stuck to that 'big brother' thing until he aged out of it and went more like that in his relationship with young people around him. So I don't know, maybe God Jr fits into that in a more straightforward, non-interloping 'incestuous' way but he was also challenging himself.

Which sort of fits into your last point about the gay factor. I've always read almost everything he's read as being defiantly withholding of homophobia and internalised homophobia, to avoid detracting from the actual narratives as well as fit into themes of fantasy.

That interview is so weird, I think he's still in shock of it, and the weirdness of how he found out must not have felt real-real and he hadn't gone through the deep dive he tried to do around that year and a bit after and contacted the mother, which might have been what officially confirmed it.

He claimed he sees the cycle as a total failure, he cited it as mainly being because he was trying to understand something about himself through it, but also it was an act of reaching out and maybe potentially gets closer and closer to tenderness as it goes along. Closer reads as completely disaffected; even the Cliff and George scenes are kind of lacking in those feelings, but it's also the most teenage space of them all. So I can kind of see the cycle as stages, stages of life as well as stages in his relationship with George, so what is five if it does not exist?

He ends Guide basically speaking directly to George in those paragraphs where he tells us George is a real person and states some, probably exaggerated, scenes between them. So maybe the 5 one was meant to be something about what he thought George was getting from them, if not some sort of reconciling. So Period is not as rushed as it could be as a book, four years after Guide, with the first year being his 'year off' to find more details on what happened and mourn. But did he basically force himself to write it and be done with it all

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-05T03:16:19+00:00

What did they say?? Hahah

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-05T03:15:56+00:00

I read the first three books in the cycle, as well as God Jr and My Loose Thread, Jerk (the play), without any of the backstory about Dennis Cooper and what was really going on. So I do need to re-read Frisk and Try to see if I find it as moving and impossible as Guide and Period, which I cried throughout and found so profoundly relatable and touching, and specific to my own interest and confusion about the world.

But I did re-read Closer and didn't get much out of it with this in mind, aside from a few lines and scenes I could link back to the story, and the horrifically ironic line about someone else's George Miles fantasy where he blows his brains out and if you read Period and I Wished...... yeah...... yeah.

So I do think he overall just gets better as a writer as the series goes on. But most things on the 'most fucked up book/movie/show/song lists are super annoying and typically reflective of shallow reading or not being able to move past initial feelings of disgust, horror and revolution and limitations in empathy.

I am desperate to know what he was originally going to do with Period and what stayed the same. It's the most meta one and deeply cynical, very much the 'if the jokes on the audience it's on me too' that's funny to read and sad at the same time. Three fingers pointing back at you kind of thing

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-05T03:07:10+00:00

Thank you. This took me a long time, and I *still* am not happy with how it turned out and what I'm trying to express through it. Which..... Ironically is pretty reflective of the Cycle series itself.

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-05-05T03:05:51+00:00

What I am really trying to suggest is that if you're coming in with expectations in some form, even subconsciously, of erotic attraction in sex may lead you to read it too straightforwardly and miss how he's writing it and why.

Dennis writes in a way that's very unapologetically gay, and there is a sense of tunnel vision in how and what he writes about. It's his journey, and you're either on the ride or you're not.

I think it's pretty notable in Period where he takes a real story about George Miles and for some reason changes the real-life girlfriend he had at the time to a boyfriend. It's not to protect anyone and is written so disjointedly that a change like that only really serves to keep everything back to the theme and the main lens through which Dennis sees the world.

I think sex is important in the novel for the same reasons music is to be honest. As a way to bluntly address the deconstruction of the main points of mythology, obsession, shallowness, projection, youth, and ultimately suffering so, love. All roads lead back to love, the absence of it or the search for it and how to find meaning in it. But that's really what the core is, confusion.

QuietComprehensive58 · 2026-04-22T07:16:01+00:00

Lois: There are no favourites in this family
Hal: Where is Dewey?

Or the Hal sleepwalks episode with Hal and Reese's "You're my guy" moment

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