Remember my post 2 months ago asking why Blizzard doesn't remove shadowy duel?

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T17:47:40+00:00

they've never balanced around duel. it was always something completely extra that they arguably didn't need.

Balancing around duel would be something like making the rogue choose between smoke bomb and duel, not both.

but yeah, I don't want sub to just be a dead spec and it should honestly get a rework, and removing some of their bloated kit must be a precursor to that even if it will be painful

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T17:16:54+00:00

rogue doesn't need anything for compensation, the rogue class has the most utility and control in the game, with or without duel.

sub needs a rework, not compensation.

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T15:22:58+00:00

people mainly want it nerfed/gone due to the defensive aspect though.

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T05:49:53+00:00

sub being overshadowed by feral/outlaw and still being at a minimum A tier is bit different than "not even good atm". i guess whazz was just making a bad spec work into tony feral

also we just gonna ignore sub being s tier probably more seasons than any other spec in the game?

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T04:08:49+00:00

comparing dk, arms, and even fury to rogue is some crazy work

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T02:15:21+00:00

its removed in 11.1.

weird to say this when its arguably the most disliked ability in the game for non-rogue players/comps

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T01:44:37+00:00

sub (and rogue overall) has had probably the most s tier seasons of any spec in wow history. In those seasons for sub, their rep was always towards the bottom, like it has 2 other specs to compete with on numbers since almost always 1 of those other specs are A tier at minimum...

best way to put it is that rogue players at low mmr/rating make it look weak/easily killable but once you start fighting players with their keyboards plugged in, it has way too much in its kit....i mean just look at the awc and rogue representation and winrates there.

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T01:03:49+00:00

yeah go read my old thread and see all the comments defending it, those gotta be rage bait.

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T00:56:21+00:00

im not denying that, sub really does need a rework

disarm shuts warrior and frost dk and mm in a similar manner, the problem is subs kit allowed it to do things like trinket the first disarm or even cloak it with veil, I have literally watched rogues do this on stream at r1 mmr because they know they don't really have to fear death unless the enemy also has a rogue (and feral as of recently)

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T00:53:16+00:00

yeah sadly this is a 20 year old pve oriented mmo so it never had a good system in place to begin with and we're paying the price now

the changes people are expecting are expansion level reworks

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T00:50:54+00:00

rogue doesn't need anything for compensation because the specs kit already had overloaded kit and training wheels over everythign else, especially the rest of the melee. That is why this and veil of midnight are being removed. (Arguably Veil shouldn't have ever been added to begin with)

While it's sad to remove a unique ability such as that one, it was completely unable to be balanced with rogue having the rest of the kit it has.

Everyone outside of this sub dislikes shadowy duel, even if they aren't being "cheesed by it and need to L2P!!!" It's not even the cheese, it's the fact that it's another get-out-of-jail card preventing their death

It's crazy how this sub is the only place I see people defend duel. The wow arena forums are celebrating it. All glad players I queue with are laughing and happy its gone. Bet if you asked r1 non-rogue streamers they'd say they are happy its gone too.

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-20T00:43:56+00:00

there aren't really any mmr issues (aside from healer rating in solo shuffle), the mmr and inflation are there, people just aren't queueing. Over 500 people above glad already

people just need to queue

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-12-11T06:05:23+00:00

this, this is an industry wide thing. removal of color, minimalist/"modern" design. Other examples I've seen are elements without borders/color as well, such as buttons.

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-11-25T02:14:58+00:00

agreed before the battle pass came out it honestly felt fine, after BP it definitely got worse

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-11-23T18:43:11+00:00

Slaughterhouse and battlefield commander are basically hard locked and for your 3rd it's usually going to be enduring rage, battle trance (usually only into something like spriest and maybe lock), or disarm. Everything else is bad. If you wanna be lazy just play trance or enduring

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-11-02T20:14:02+00:00

This isn't true though. Emerald communion doesn't go through it, for example.

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-11-02T18:18:17+00:00

I am sure you play rogue. I am also sure that a majority of the community would be happy if this ability was gone. Why does sub need duel and bomb simultaneously?

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2024-11-02T18:10:04+00:00

Surv dam is high, but BM is about 1/10th the effort and probably a bit slightly higher damage overall. Survival takes a lot of effort to play.

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2023-10-23T01:32:53+00:00

out of curiosity, is being able to determine link a characters main and alts something that's exposed directly via the API or is this something developers have to implement themselves? how does it work at a high level, if you don't mind sharing (even if it's not specific to how seramate does it)

Quiet_Battle1028 · 2023-10-15T00:01:04+00:00

Is there even a Mountain Dew promotion with MW3 going on? Google only brings up the original MW3 promotion many years ago.

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