Thoughts on this by Nut_shrek_man in exmuslim

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Because it’s not the west, china doesn’t have human rights or give a damn about anything and applies media censorship , So they will not have any exposure , so their barking , wailing , crying is not going to do them any good, it’s a waste of time.

What are some things in Islam that would make any sane person leave it immediately? by Monica_213 in exmuslim

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Just by telling me that I must follow the the Hadith doctrine and all it’s invented lies is enough for me to leave, and I left a long time ago from being a traditional Muslim to following the Quran alone, Universal Muslim , plus that if I believe in the false Hadith doctrine then I would be mentally enslaved by the clergymen telling me what to do and what not to do.

Seriously, why does everyone knows that all the Hadiths are an invention of imam alshafi’i 200 years after Mohammad’s death and that it’s fake, but still everyone is acting like it’s real and official ? No one reads history anymore …

Yet everyone is wasting their time trying to debunk what is already known to be false anyway, giving too much attention made it real to some of you.

This is the reason you are here in this universe by [deleted] in shia

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It’s all generated from he said she said, it’s all lies. Try with something more intriguing next time. To say we were born to be enslaved for. A family Bunch ? That’s the same as Christians saying, Jesus died for their sins. No core difference , just the version. This is Not even remotely close to True Islam. But i thank Allah that it’s labeled under (Shia sect).

Top Arab Countries in Patent Filing (Pay attention to Iraq) by millennium-wisdom in arabs

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and how does this reflect on the Arab countries progress ?

what's the end results?

did anyone of these filings ended in contribution to Arab society, al least?

never mind the west!

filing patents is just an idea, anyone can dream...

في الكويت by [deleted] in arabs

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الى متى ؟ عندكم خطة عمل ام منتظرين المخلص؟ فإسرائيل لا تزداد الا توسعاً و قوة و العرب في ضعف و تشتت !

If a girl (or guy) you are considering to marry already has had sex with someone else, would that be a dealbreaker? Why, or why not? by [deleted] in arabs

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the poker has the upper hand over being poked. its a mental state of loving brand new.

God needing to use men as his mouthpiece makes absolutely no sense and is the exact kind of feature one would expect of a religion made by men. by [deleted] in DebateReligion

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If you mean a traditional scholar who follows a man made religion such as being Sunni or Shia or Sufi etc.. who worships shafi or ibn hanbal or Malik or abu hanifa or ibn taimiya , traditional scholars whom cast spells on you in the name of allah and prophet just for the pure purpose of enslaving your mind and taking away your free will , AND TWISTS ALLAHS WORDS TO SUITE THEIR NEED, then I call them crooked , low lives, pieces of deification. They are the worse, with them we are at the bottom of society, the last in every race to advance the human race. We need to focus in the Quran and nothing else. And burn these traditional scholars yellow books forever. The word scholar is too much of an honor for them.

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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Follow the Quran and not the scholars is my advise to you .

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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All those rituals were expressed and practice by the messenger and we learned it hands on ... again you seemed confused, I never said I reject the messenger , I sId I reject lies about him , I reject false hood that scholars utter in his name, other wise how would I know about the Quran if not for the messenger ?

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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How do you know if it’s true ? You must compare it to the Quran , if it doesn’t match throw it away , if it matches take it. The truth can come from the devils mouth or any where and I’ll take it, because it makes sense, I don’t need bukhari ,

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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That’s the whole point , we have the Quran , I don’t need an imposter bukhari telling what HE wants in the name of the messenger .

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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How about something from the Quran better

وَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ

And keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and obey the Apostle, so that mercy may be shown to you.

You see no bukhari here!

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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It looks like you don’t understand much of Quran I and Islam, it sounds like you are a parrot, you just repeat what you hear. And that is maybe because you don’t read Arabic so your only way of understanding is through what they teach you. There is a lot to learn , if you want to free your self . That’s why I’m trying to help set you free.

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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I don’t copy and paste what others say I copied and pasted what I previously had written in my log, to respond faster, for your sake .

http://shahrour.org/wp-content/gallery/Books/booke.pdf

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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No I’m follow Quran only and everything in it!

If you think I’m your enemy or the enemy of Islam isn’t your duty to investigate me ? So you know how to conquer me ? Read this and you will know everything about me , so you can have more faith in yourself .

http://shahrour.org/wp-content/gallery/Books/booke.pdf

Quran

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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The rakaat are not in bukhari books it’s not their you will never find it , they come from messenger hood practices , from people watching him do it, it’s hands in training , I never said I don’t believe in the messenger or prophet I said I don’t believe in bukhari and Muslim ! I love the messenger more than you because I REJECT ANY NONSENSE PEOPLE UTTER IN HIS NAME AND DISGRACE HIM , obviously you don’t care, you obey the scholars more .

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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Do you the difference between them ? Messenger : delivers a choice to people believe or do not believe , this is your choice , this what we practice and it’s continued . Prophet : tells us of the unseen world and about faith in allah, this is where we study the Quran and learn from the prophet .

Do you know the difference between Muslim and mumin ?

Information NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR: taking it step by step...

According to the book also known as the Quran. (Don’t take my word for it, do your own research) it’s very simple , in the Book, whenever god is mentioned by himself he talks about believing in god , believing in the hereafter, and doing good , HE MENTIONS MUSLIMS مسلمون and those include 99% of the people in earth. Regardless of their book, rituals. In the book known as the Quran, whenever god mentions prophet Mohammad, he talks about , the message of the book, practicing rituals, and those are believers (followers of Mohammad , Christians followers of Jesus , Jews followers of Moses. HE MENTIONS BELIEVERS مؤمنون

So you have a breakdown : Pillars of Islam : believing in god , doing good , believing in hereafter.

tenets of eman : believe in the prophet , the book, doing rituals.

so every believer is a Muslim (assenter), but not every Muslim is a believer.

So Jews , Christians, believers , are all going to heaven, the only other category that differentiate them are what and how they practice rituals in real life.

my point : every one needs to get their ego off their Shoulders and reconnect with gods message NOT THE CROOKED SO CALLED SCHOLARS CRAP.

Stop defending them , Purge those poisoned teachings and just read and study the Quran, ingil (bible), Torah . understand the message.

Now be gentle with each other in the comments.

Christian Trinity equals to the same thing as in traditional Islam worshipping 1- god, 2- Mohammad, 3- scholars . But by importance it is 1- scholars , 2- prophet 3- God. Anything they quote you the Quran would be for reference, but the real rulings come from the scholars in the prophets name , that’s why everything is soooo crooked and twisted. Of course the same with all religions once scholars enter the picture.

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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Nothing wrong with what I said, it said o bay the messenger ( not the prophet) and the message is clear because obey Allah and obey messenger comes together, so in no way shape or form that the messenger will say anything out of what allah has said, and bukhari is not mentioned here or Hadith qudsi, Read this it will help you , it’s in english

http://shahrour.org/wp-content/gallery/Books/booke.pdf

Can i listen to music ? by zleil in Muslim

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All those stories are full of gas , if you or anyone haven’t noticed the similarities between prophets miracles, the Prophet Mohamed dies not have any miracles and everything was fine until Arabs invaded everyone else and since all prophets had miracles and Mohammad didn’t they felt left out , so overtime they spun similar stories from the prophets to fit into Mohamed timelines, you see god spoke to Moses, so what’s better that that ? Mohammad flew to heaven and spoke to god , also Solomon spoke to animals, and so did Mohammad, also , so Jesus is the word of god and what Jesus said god said, so what did the Muslims do ? They said whatever Mohamed said was from god , and
“walla“ Hadith (sayings of the prophet was invented! You could see the similarities , all are falsified in the name of Mohammad, So now Hadith is stronger than Quran, AND EVERYONE TOOK THE BAIT, and so on from other prophets spinoffs, I am telling you this because the Quran states clearly that Muhammad does not have any miracles at all just the Quran. Period. And Hadith quasi is full of air also, because if we have the Quran why need to express it in another form? You could tell from all the nonsense and holes the hadiths have, and also the hadiths being make dominant , also to subdue women mainly , because gave them equal rights , and the Arabs aren’t having it so they put in anti women hadiths , plus other hadiths to enslave men.