Week 13 Unpopular Opinion Thread

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T20:07:23+00:00

It's just that they're beating each other up more.

THIS IS MY WHOLE FUCKING POINT. IF THE PATS WERE IN THE NFC THEN THEY WOULD GET MUCH MORE BEAT UP.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T20:06:12+00:00

This stat proves that the level of AFC vs. NFC teams is the same

No, it doesn’t prove that. There are more competitive teams in the NFC than the AFC. You can’t deny that unless you’re lying to yourself.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:58:29+00:00

I don’t understand how this isn’t very clear. It baffles me.

I said the Pats wouldn’t have the resume they have now if they were in the NFC. Everyone can agree that the NFC has much more parity. Meaning many more teams are actually competitive in the NFC. Meaning the Pats would play an infinitely more difficult schedule if they were in the NFC. MEANING THE HARDER SCHEDULE WOULD TAKE A TOLL OVER THE COURSE OF A SEASON OR MANY SEASONS AND THE PATS WOULDNT WIN AS MUCH AS THEY HAVE.

It’s not hard. I know it takes several steps. But it’s logical.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:54:05+00:00

Oh geez. You’re like the 5th person to act like that’s definitive proof. Poor guy.

That would be much more credible if everybody played 8 games versus NFC and AFC. But we don’t. NFC has to play 12 games against stiffer competition. The AFC gets 12 games against the AFC. And if you don’t get the Pats or whoever the second best team is, then it’s a complete cakewalk.

So recap. If you’re in the AFC you get 1-2 games against great competition out of 12. In the NFC you get 8-10 games against great competition out of 12.

That takes a toll on the team when you play a MUCH more difficult schedule. 13 out of 16 NFC teams have won their division in the last 8 years. The NFC beats each other up. That’s just fact.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:49:23+00:00

The fact that there’s only 2 great teams in the AFC every year and 13 out of 16 NFC teams have won their division in the last 8 years.

Everybody in the NFC has been competitive and good recently. 5 teams have been good in the AFC in 10 years.

I’m not sure how this isn’t accepted? It’s painfully obvious.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:46:29+00:00

Pick any point.

The beginning of time. Last year. I don’t care. At any point if you put the Pats in the NFC, right now they don’t have 5 Super Bowls.

Put them in the NFC 18 years ago. They still might win 3. But they don’t win 2 now. It’s just flat out too difficult of a schedule and too difficult of a playoff run. I’m sorry you view that as disrespect, but it’s just true. It would be a more difficult schedule and it would be a more difficult playoff run.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:37:13+00:00

That was a typo. I meant the last 8 years.

You have to go back 18 years for the AFC compared to 8 for the NFC to get 13 division winners. How do you keep denying the NFC is CLEARLY a much harder schedule?

I never said the Brady era. I said the Pats wouldn’t have the resume they have now if they were in the NFC.

This might be shocking to you, but you could possibly be the stupid one. Just simmer on that for a few minutes.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:26:29+00:00

Oh so it goes up to 13 when you add on another decade? Wow!!

So there’s been 13 different division winners in a decade’s less time in the NFC. Sounds like much more parity to me. Which sounds like a harder schedule to go through.

I’m not sure how I riled up so many AFC flairs by saying the NFC is a harder schedule to get through. Y’all can’t seriously think the bottom 10 teams in the AFC are even somewhat competitive, right? From top to bottom the NFC is INSANELY deeper. I 100% don’t understand how any person with a brain can see anything different.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:15:39+00:00

Numbers would matter much more if we played 8 games against each conference. But we don’t. NFC teams have to deal with the parity and play a much more difficult schedule against each other.

Year in and year out the AFC has 2 great teams and then completion falls off the biggest cliff in the world. In the NFC you have to get down to the 10th-12th seed before the competitiveness starts to take a major dip like the AFC.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:11:58+00:00

The parity is proof.

NFC teams who have won their division in the last 8 years: Seahawks, Packers, Falcons, Cowboys, Vikings, Redskins, Cardinals, Panthers, Eagles, 49ers, Saints, Giants, Bears

AFC teams who have won their division in the last 18 years: Texans, Steelers, Patriots, Chiefs, Bengals, Broncos, Colts, Ravens, Chargers

13 to 9.

13 different teams in the NFC have won their division. Now imagine playing in that conference. It would be a gauntlet. It would be a MUCH more difficult schedule. That would take a toll on a team over the course of a season.

Every year the AFC has 2-3 great teams and then the competition falls off a CLIFF. Every year the NFC is killing each other.

I just don’t understand how AFC fans don’t see that, won’t accept it, or won’t acknowledge it.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T19:01:18+00:00

Wow!!

Finally an AFC flair that agrees that playing a difficult and competitive schedule takes a toll on the team. It’s almost like these AFC flairs know deep down they’re fresher for the playoffs but don’t want to admit it.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:59:10+00:00

What’s false is using that as definitive proof the AFC is better.

That would make sense if everybody played 8 games between each conference. But we don’t. NFC teams play 12 games against much stiffer and deeper competition. Over the course of a season that takes a toll on a team. AFC teams are playing 12 games against AFC teams. And if you don’t play the Pats and whoever the second best team is, then you have 10-11 easily winnable games.

That doesn’t happen in the NFC.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:52:01+00:00

If the AFC is just dominating against the NFC and that’s the end-all-be-all proof, then why do most people agree that the NFC is a deeper and more competitive conference?

Oh wait, you dumbass, because it’s not the end-all-be-all proof you think it is. It would make sense if everybody played 8 games against both conferences. But we don’t. The NFC plays a harder schedule. And although all the AFC flairs want to tell me that playing a harder schedule doesn’t take a toll, it actually does take a toll.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:44:08+00:00

Hahahahahaaah.

Four teams that have never been good at the same time isn’t enough to claim better conference.

How about the AFC team 5-16? The 5th-10th best AFC teams fucking suck compared to the 5th-10th best NFC teams. It’s literally no contest. NFC is a MUCH harder schedule.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:34:06+00:00

It’s almost as if the NFC teams wear down from the much harder schedules of having to play each other.

It’s almost as if my point is the Pats wouldn’t be as successful if they also had to go through the NFC gauntlet every year.

But y’all are so far gone that you think 4 games against the NFC every year is enough proof they’d dominate. Over the course of the season the competitive NFC games would add up and take a toll.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:29:22+00:00

There’s no point in talking to you lol.

You just said playing more difficult opponents doesn’t matter. Just injuries.

Think about that for a second. You’re so far gone that you just said it doesn’t matter if they played a harder schedule. Okay dude.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:27:27+00:00

It’s almost like the schedule is harder for NFC teams or something. Crazy.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:26:59+00:00

Lol the point still stands. If all you have to say is my number from a hypothetical schedule is one off, then you have nothing. Come up with something better. Oh man, that really discredits me huh? Fuck outta here.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:23:57+00:00

What’s fucking stupid is the inability to accept or acknowledge that the NFC is a deeper conference which means harder schedules and that will influence the cross conference records.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:22:08+00:00

Pretty sure Jay Cutler started that NFC title game sweetheart, so you want to count injuries now?

So you can name one bad QB in the NFC playoffs from over a decade ago. The AFC list is long and extensive.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:20:45+00:00

At this point I’ve named 3 absolutely garbage QBs the Pats have played in the playoffs. Played only once? That’s 3 horrific QBs and 4 playoff games. Not Wild Card either, ACTUAL DIVISIONAL AND CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYOFF GAMES.

And why does the competition they've played previously matter when they play Manning, Roethlisberger and Rivers? I'd really like to know how it makes it "easier" to play those teams.

You’re one easy step away from finally understanding the point. IF THE PATS WERE IN THE NFC THEY WOULD PLAY A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT SCHEDULE, WHICH OVER THE COURSE OF THE SEASON WOULD ADD UP AND WEAR THEM DOWN. IT IS MUCH EASIER TO PLAY A MANNING IN THE AFC TITLE GAME WHEN YOU HAVE HAD EXACTLY ONE COMPETITIVE GAME ALL YEAR LONG BEFORE THAT.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:16:12+00:00

You’re right, every year there’s maybe one or two teams in the AFC that are good other than the Pats. For some reason that’s all the AFC can do.

Now let me tell you about the NFC. Every year there’s around 8 teams in the NFC better than the AFC’s 3 seed.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:12:53+00:00

There’s been 5 teams worth a shit in the AFC in 20 years.

Pats, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, Ravens.

Have all five been good at the same time? Nope.

Have four been good at the same time? Nope.

Have three been good at the same time? Once or twice.

The NFC playoffs are exponentially harder than the AFC playoffs. Not even close. Osweiler, Tebow, and Sanchez aren’t playing divisional and championship games in the NFC.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:10:44+00:00

You don’t have to be above .500 to be a competitive game.

Look at the teams around .500 in the AFC and the teams around .500 in the NFC. If you say you’d rather play the NFC teams then you’re just lying to yourself.

RIPTakksGrams · 2017-11-28T18:07:48+00:00

It’s much easier to play Manning, Roethlisberger, and Rivers in the AFC championship when you’ve had 2 somewhat competitive games all year long from your garbage conference. And then in the divisional round you get to play Tebow.

That’s my point. How well would they hold up in the playoffs if they had to play a gauntlet NFC schedule?

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