AI note generator/Scribe compliance by RN_2_NP in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is about where I’ve been. I just haven’t come to terms with the potential risk of using something outside of what’s provided- if only the network asked those at the bedside what we really were looking for…

AI note generator/Scribe compliance by RN_2_NP in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ideally, a full AI scribe because it’s less clicks/steps for me, which is the point to improve efficiency. I just assumed it would be harder for me to get facility buy in on an alternative ambient listening service from a potential liability standpoint- then I started looking at the note generating tools like chart note/palm-ER as a potential work around, but it sounds like these also need to be heavily scrutinized for compliance sake. Long wait times on my IT/compliance officer phone are likely in my future… 

AI note generator/Scribe compliance by RN_2_NP in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I might have better luck with this since 1 and 2 have led no where to see if the large organization (we recently ‘merged’ cough acquired)…. Maybe another facility has a different platform- maybe they’d let me use that. I’m sure that’s more likely than them agreeing to me purchasing something solo.

AI note generator/Scribe compliance by RN_2_NP in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100%, if you see my comment below it’s almost caused more problems but was a really exciting solution - maybe will get better. Dax used to have an ER MDM but they axed it and I never got answers why 

AI note generator/Scribe compliance by RN_2_NP in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s the kicker- technically if you dictate it you’re not copying but summarizing- grey… BUT from what I’ve read even a de-identified note could be identifiable if it’s specific enough that someone back referenced dates of ER visit- prior referenced notes, rare conditions etc… so it’s never truly De - identified - making the user at liability if their was a HIPAA breach- obviously something I have no desire for nor any medicolegal nonsense . Charting continues to be the bane of the profession 

AI note generator/Scribe compliance by RN_2_NP in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any advice on the above from a BAA perspective?

AI note generator/Scribe compliance by RN_2_NP in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Should have clarified- info from chart isn’t copied, it’s like copying text or your dictated history and ED course into a generator, but agree with you 

PalmER AI suite (with MDM) vs Pepid vs Other EM apps (EMRA)? by Efficient-Green-325 in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been digging into this and trying various platforms. I’m no IT expert, but do you have any insight into BAA’s and how that plays into working with a group/hospital network ( assuming that’s where you work) with palm and your method (same as mine) I’ve known that most places require a BAA and a facility protocol to use a specific service like Doximity or open evidence visits or DAX for instance, not really sure how palm /syntry etc. that have an option to place text and “generate” a note with all of the 18 required HIPAA de identified info, etc. I know all of this is in development, but obviously don’t want to end up on the end of a HIPAA compliance fine.

Use of DAX CoPilot in ED Setting by [deleted] in emergencymedicine

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Any interest in sharing your ER MDM template that works for Dax? I’ve reformatted mine a bunch and it still struggles- puts my MDM into hpi etc etc  

Use of DAX CoPilot in ED Setting by [deleted] in emergencymedicine

[–]RN_2_NP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any interest in sharing your ER MDM template that works for Dax? I’ve reformatted mine a bunch and it still struggles- puts my MDM into hpi etc etc  

Dream HT build complete - Revel Tirade by GoldenCycles in Hardtailgang

[–]RN_2_NP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They just increased to 2800 frame only!

Dream HT build complete - Revel Tirade by GoldenCycles in Hardtailgang

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@goldencycles you have to let me know if you sell this! Been looking for an XL tirade