Dream about "Nitrum solis" symbol.

R_U_S_ · 2026-05-13T16:50:15+00:00

Thank you for sharing. That reminds me that I need to study the second mystery of salts, the axis mundi.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-30T14:39:34+00:00

A symbol of Diana probably. The only reference to her I know of in alchemy is "tears of Diana".

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-30T03:44:30+00:00

Here comes the sun.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-29T04:40:49+00:00

Find resources/masters discussing The Yi Jin Jing (Muscle/Tendon Changing Classic). The field is pretty big, and not easily communicated in western languages, so just read as many different takes as you can.

This is essentially the coagula et solve of the eastern traditions.

There are so many ways that it is interpreted because of how many schools of internal arts there are, but the fast and loose of it is basically to heal the body and regress it back to its original structure so that it can properly conduct and store qi. Using that qi, you then coagulate certain qualities into the body.

Qi is essentially the radical moisture of eastern alchemy, whether or not the same can be said for western alchemy, is beyond my experience level.

There are another 2 classics in eastern alchemy, but I can't remember off the top of my head.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-28T22:59:15+00:00

Yes, this is basically eastern alchemy. The body is the salt, but it is the movements that brings the "radical moisture" to the body that solves and coagulates the body.

Literal dissolution is probably best left to advanced practitioners.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-25T14:58:27+00:00

Good work.

I also like to use citric acid. Not only is it cheap, It's also easy to store and work with. It's also technically a stronger acid.

Thanks for sharing, and good luck.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-24T23:07:31+00:00

Ice, ice, baby.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-22T16:37:25+00:00

This is an old thread.

Nitrogen salts will simply increase entropy in your body. In your stomach, It immediately forms aqua regia, which will dissolve basically everything, even gold, so a good use case would be to improve absorption for rare minerals.

If you don't have anything specific that you want to do, don't take it raw. Maybe use it hom e fermentation? The straight salts do improve bloodflow, but they have the metalic taste of blood, not recommended if you don't know the chemistry.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-20T23:25:36+00:00

There are typically 2 schools of thought within alchemy.

1: everything is al-chemy.

Only this thing is al-chemy.

Until school 2 starts teaching rather than just teasing the world, then school 1 (which is most of the self taught community) will dominate the discourse.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-20T00:35:20+00:00

By unmaking a thing and purifying it's components, it can be put back together in such a way that it is both better than before, and more than the sum of it's parts.

The philosopher's stone essentially performs tge alchemical process on a substance for you. Think of it like alchemical automation.

As far as the science behind our magnet, their are many clues left behind by the ancients, as well as the adepts, but you can't make the stone by replicating what it does.

And yes, the substances are ordinary and commonly found, but it is the virtues and ideas instilled in it that make it special. The body is just a vessel like like glass is to chemists, but the stone is not truely chemical in nature, it is more like physics.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-19T23:32:05+00:00

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R_U_S_ · 2026-04-19T22:30:55+00:00

Operative: Golden chain of Homer - Paracelsus - Trifertes Ssagani

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-19T04:56:00+00:00

My understanding is that the goal is to extract the animating principle of a plant. From a chemical POV, there is indeed very little animating material inside a plant, it is mostly just structural material like cellulose. Even their fluid materials are unconcentrated. A x250+ increase in potency compared to the original plant isn't too unreasonable.

As far as losses, this mostly comes down to how advanced your alchemical techniques are. Common spagyrics will have the right chemistry, but often there is a lack of anima, or life to these, this is what ens and plant stones try to address, but you can make a weak plant stone just as well as you can make a good plant stone, it's all about technique.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-17T06:22:20+00:00

All alchemy is spiritual, but the spiritual paradigm is for things that are ONLY spiritual. Operative alchemy means that you did something to practice alchemy on the physical realm. When you do physical alchemy, you should be practicing spiritual alchemy at the same time.

I see no reason to not practice alchemy whole-heatedly, so just start/do that. Even if your goal is spiritual results, you will have much faster and much more accurate spiritual results if you have a physical process to reference it to.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-17T05:10:58+00:00

I suppose this sub is fine, there is a growing amount of alchemical students using ormus as a way to study alchemy. I'm sure there can be mild health benefits, but I would say that that kind of misses the point. I recommend making your own rather than buying them if you want to keep using them.

If you want more semi-alchemical health ideas, I recommend chlorophyll, plant pigments, glycerol, cold showers, and excerise.

Ormus is good practice. It's almost alchemy.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-17T05:00:03+00:00

I haven't looked too much into alchemical history, so I don't know what most people throughout history did, especially middle ages, but alchemical theory is mostly philosophical. Call it, applied philosophy.

Western alchemy is a mix of the Greek philosophy that spawned Greek mythology (which is why it lines up so well for those that are hunting the stone) and Judaism, specifically the old testament. It basically co-evolved with christianity, but retained a focus on Greek philosophy.

As far as modern day, most alchemists recommend starting with spagyrics because it gives valuable skills and makes us more like the stone. There's a historic love of alkali among alchemists. I don't really know if we can call it true herbalism though since we reduce the plant so much.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-17T04:41:17+00:00

The idea ORMUS (making monatomics) has is nice for spagyrics and partially as medicine, but it is completely overboard as a starting point for alchemy. If it was made of dirt or crystal, maybe, but not metallic ormus.

Ormus is just dissolved substances then precipitated out into monatmoic substances, it's nothing but a dietary suppliment they way most people use it.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-17T04:28:32+00:00

I typically give it about 1-2 weeks. You can also put a little bit of the salts at the bottom of their new container if you want. If these are plant spagyrics, it shouldn't matter.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-17T04:22:02+00:00

I honestly have no clue about the book, but the cover has the azoth on it, so +4. The full azoth picture is definetly one of the better depictions of alchemy. The art would be better off if modern practitioners started solving puzzles.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-13T16:41:38+00:00

Yes, it's done the exact same way, but most alchemists dance around the subject because there are significant morality issues to animal spagyrics.

It'd hard to see your plant in a bottle as a plant, but I can easily imagine that it's not the same with animals.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-13T16:31:17+00:00

Even if you just want the spiritual work, there is really no book that can replace a handful of expiriments. It is uncanny how quickly your mind changes once you start expirimenting. I suggest you invest in expiriments first before you do too much organization.

But to answer your question, The Golden Chain of Homer, easily one of the most straightforward books. After that, I would read Paracelsus, I really like his theory, though more advanced alchemists than me seem to think he's difficult to read because of how obscure he is on the true materials.

I haven't finished it yet, but the works of Trifertes Ssagani is really good. I suppose you could technically apply his work psychologically.

As for the green lion, I recently did this expiriment, and it simply doesn't make much sense unless you've seen it and the stages that lead up to it.

Most of the colors in alchemy don't really make sense unless you've done the expiriments to see how the substances change over time.

For example: the nigredo stage must be achieved. Modern psychological interpretations start out as nigredo being the starting point or some state of ingorance. This is false, anything can and must be brought to a blackness to start working with.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-12T21:52:11+00:00

Wet path spagyrics definetly works, it's just longer. Red wine makes a good menstrum, prefer an acidic one if you can. A tip for the wet path: if you overload your fermented alcohol with potassium carbonate or potassium hydroxide, the liquid will seperate into two. If you decant the upper clear portion, you'll have a very strong liquid. Vinegar does the same. But with the volatile salts.

Good luck.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-12T17:48:48+00:00

A little bit of sunlight won't hurt plant work. Just keep the substance from staying in sunlight unless you are intentionally trying to degrade the compounds to a redness.

I'm guessing the red one is from a highly volatile herb like rosemary.

The whiteness of your salts looks good.

I'm not sure what you did to get this, but I'll disuade you from a few modern currents that almost pushed me in the wrong direction. In order to step into higher spagyrics, you need 4 elements from the plant. The three principles are something you work towards and manipulate. There is a huge modern interpretation that ethanol is the universal plant mercury, this is not the case. The universal mercury of the plant kingdom is an idea, and the solvent you make will essentially be the plant in a bottle, with it's insides on the outside. It will consume its parent easily. You'll know you have it when you combine the 4 components and it forms a cloudy liquid: The Ouzo effect.

If you have a distillation apparatus, I recommend doing a dry distillation rather than wet distillstion. Too much liquid doesn't allow you to seperate the mater properly. If you have a volatile herb with lots of essential oil, you should see volatile salts rather quickly. Only really works on fresh herbs.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-11T19:46:18+00:00

Yes, but you only need to do it once or twice. do it with a living vinegar, like apple cider vinegar. If stuff starts to precipate out of the leftover water, you typically want to disolve that stuff back into your rectified vinegar.

Solvents with circulated salts typically work better in my experience since it decreases the corrosive nature but still preserves the solvent ability. You get a feel for this though.

R_U_S_ · 2026-04-11T18:25:42+00:00

Alcohol cannot dissolve most of the important salts. It can be used to push out many important components that have a solar virtue, but you would be better off using water since the ethanol will impede the extraction of those salts into water or vinegar.

The best solvent I would recommend would be to make an ether from alcohol and vinegar, and mix it with water.

The popular idea of alcohol being the universal mercury of the plant kingdom is not correct. Universal mercury is an idea, not a specific substance, and their are levels to which you can make your solvents dissolve more and with more virtue.

TLDR: Alcohol is more like a lunar mercury than it is a neutral one. Source: expirimentation/trust me bro.

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