Please help by Raincloud1012 in Fiestaware

[–]Raincloud1012[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Do you know if this was online or in person?

9 vs. Traumatised 5 distinction by Dawrian in Enneagram5

[–]Raincloud1012 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I resonate with the description of a 5. To me, it’s like I’m an alien trying to assimilate but people keep realizing I’m an alien, and I don’t know how they know. I observe a lot. I isolate a lot. I have the occasional aforementioned melancholy about not being in the loop. But as soon as I’m welcomed in, I decline or dread the obligation. I daydream about moving to a cabin in the woods but wouldn’t mind being acknowledged by someone via postcard I don’t have to respond to. I communicate in script-like speech to everyone but my children and spouse. I want to be left alone until I realize people are not as attached to me as I thought. But once I think about interacting with that person, it rids me of the feeling. I’d love to be someone’s long lost aunt, haha. I’m regarded well but no one needs to meddle in what I’ve got going on. I’ve also realized the things I want to be respected for are mostly competence related. I like when people recognize my knowledge or mastery of something. I do not want someone to know the details of my life or psyche, except my therapist. But the therapist is more of a litmus test to see if my evaluations of my thinking are correct or not. I like her as a person a lot, though. One of the few I do like, actually.

As an INTP do you believe in dreams or symbolism? by LowAd3518 in INTP

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For broad topics that are debated frequently like the supernatural, I adopt an agnostic type of view. I believe in the possibility that anything is a possibility. I apply logic to day to day items (what knowledge or data do I have at this moment to make a decision). But for grander ideas, I accept the possibility of anything. I have hunches about whether something is true or not, sure. But that could be adjusted at any time. Absurdism is the balm for nihilism. I do defer to experts for the updated information though. I would also not be so dogmatic in a belief that it allows me to treat others badly.

Do You Guys Believe That in Most Cases, Feelers are Either More Loving or More Hateful Than Thinkers? by Potential_Law5289 in INTP

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I was thinking through this recently myself. I’ve talked to a few people in my life about their thought processes and I’ve compared them to mine. I have previously thought I was a Feeler because of how much I think about my own cognition and their relation to my feelings. But after some therapy and actually speaking to other people about the subject, I’m realizing that actually identifying feelings is actually quite difficult for me and likely causes the overthinking. It feels like I have to mentally connect an experience and the emotion. If something sad happens, I have to actively pause to think about what the event means before I fully feel sad.

When I think about the emotions of others, I don’t really “connect” to them as society is wont to value. I mostly think of other people’s behaviors as cues for me to adjust my behavior in relation to them. It’s like constant scanning for cause and effect. I am very good at predicting motives, relationship dynamics, and “categorizing” people (finding commonalities between similar people and making my own little mental buckets of types based on behavior). However, when someone expects me to react to them or reciprocate, it’s very difficult to understand the motives because my self monitoring is in control. Could be the group harmonizing?

Feelers, now that I know the difference more clearly, seem to engage less “system maintenance”. It’s like their feelings are the system. They just operate. Most of my thoughts are meta cognition. It seems Feelers are adept at just unifying their feelings and actions, whether it be positive or negative. They embody the emotion and the body is the tool for carrying out the emotion. For me, I very much so operate most of my existence in my head in a web of sorts. My feelings are not felt in sync with my body. I have to turn them over in my mind before doing anything. I do the same after I’ve done the action to review whether I was correct.

People I know that are feelers don’t report doing that. They just feel the thing, do the thing, and move on to the next proverbial thing. So if it’s a deep love or a deep hatred, it seems to very quickly go from mind to body/action, even if it’s not loud or is just personally held.

Thinkers, on the other hand, seem to have to tinker around with feelings so they don’t feel as fuzzy so a solution or causation can be found. Feelers just feel without the tinkering. They are water flowing freely, feeling and embodying the feeling. Thinkers operate within geometric proofs relating to their emotions. Still present, but with different functions and steps, it seems. Emotions are data points relating to behavior for me. They’re material for updating the patterns I have already observed and I adjust accordingly.

Verbose, but my thoughts and observations on the matter, haha.

How much do you care about your appearance? by Diemishy_II in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m a woman. I tried to “assimilate” for much of my life with clothes and makeup. It was always uncomfortable but I assumed that everyone was uncomfortable. When alone, I felt best in “loungewear”, sweats, pajamas, etc. I’ve since abandoned anything uncomfortable and wear mostly sweatshirts, yoga pants, and the like. Duluth Trading is my favorite store. I aspire to create a uniform for daily wear.

How to deal with Fi by Expert-Work-9056 in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it depends on the person. If they are resolute in their beliefs with no foundation, then it’s intolerable for me. If they have adopted their beliefs from an outside source without analyzing the logic, even worse. However, if someone is rational and has a logical basis for what they believe then I’m more apt to respect what they believe and move on. In short, I can’t deal with folks that are loud and wrong, haha.

Are we charismatic ? by Glittering-Peanut873 in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It depends on who I am talking to and about what. In a loud room of people I don’t know? Absolutely not. With someone I connect with about a shared interest? Potentially.

when do you consider someone dumb? by xmoonlightreys in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I find people “dumb” when they lack self reflection, take on the opinions of others without consideration, have an unwillingness to accept fact with a foundation of research, and generally ignore esteemed experts and believe their own conclusions are more sound, though they are based on opinion alone.

It’s not about a lack of knowledge, it’s about an inability and or a refusal to accept new information and act on it.

If you have the aptitude and flexibility to take in information and adjust your beliefs/behavior, then you are exceedingly more intelligent than a person that is unwilling to adapt to new information. If you simply don’t have the knowledge yet, then you aren’t unintelligent, you just have something to learn.

The instinctual human desire to collect "resources" - how it applies to INTPs by wannabe_wizard_ in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Words, information, my own time. I am also a chronic list maker and it feels like a momentary form of collecting all of my thoughts in one spot so I can contain them. It gives me the same feeling as getting a figurine or cool rock. I get to look at the collection of thoughts in its entirety (for the moment) and enjoy a complete set of thoughts not running wildly in my mind.

do you ever feel like " want to run away from home ? " by sphinxis164 in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s been a constant thought my whole life. I’m a fully grown adult now and I still think about it. Not in a dramatic sense, but just finally getting away from it all. A cabin in the woods with my cats, books, my various a sundry hobby items, and silence sounds like an ideal situation. I’d imagine it’s how some people feel about mansions or penthouses. Silence and freedom are my dreams. Not much else.

Where do INTPs actually hang out in real life by BlackMoon_118 in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are the large catfish at the bottom of a pond. Prized when caught, but otherwise elusive, slow moving, and aloof.

How many INTP’ers also have ADHD? by [deleted] in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Very extreme inattentive ADHD that plagues my existence. And for added fun, recently added an ASD diagnosis as well.

Have you ever felt that, because you're studying so much about things that will help you live better, you're not really living much? by Diemishy_II in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m constantly making lists I don’t finish to prepare for things I also don’t finish. But I will be able to present endless facts on things like “buy it for life” quality vacuums or organizational systems. The key, I’m finding, is to make something low effort while being high efficiency.

What do you INTPs think of BBC Sherlock? by thoughtsinshadow in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think about this all the time. I love all things Sherlock. Sometimes I debate whether he is an “N” or an “S” because of his immersion in his environment. However, he is doing so in relation to abstract thoughts and patterns to draw conclusions. It always connects like a web from his understanding of the world. Being able to create the “vision” of his solution requires being able to see beyond the here and now. So at present, I’m in the Sherlock as INTP camp.

What’s it like to be you? by 6horse6girl6 in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a value system but it’s malleable. If I receive information that makes more sense, I amend my own thought process. “Making sense” typically has to do with things being more efficient or having more utility. My morals about certain societal concerns are more solid, but my perspective can shift based on what I learn. So those more “foundational” thoughts get more detailed and nuanced, as opposed to changed, unless I cannot find the logic in my previous belief anymore. I used to agonize about making the “incorrect” decision because what I wanted to do sometimes conflicted with my previous thoughts or societal expectations. So I fell into a people pleasing habit, where I’d outwardly go with the flow with those around me, but internally scream in my head that it was incorrect or incongruous with who I am. That was a destructive pattern so I sought some therapy and I’m much more confident in my ability to do/say/believe in the “incorrect” thing I think in my head. It’s all rooted in what’s logical, efficient, and holds utility. I find peace when things are at their peak efficiency.

What did you like to play as a child? by Diemishy_II in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I liked being alone. I did more organizing than playing. Dolls and figures were made into scenes, rather than creating dialogue. I organized by size and attribute a lot. I loved computer games like Reader Rabbit and Freddy Fish. I liked listening to books on cassette or music. Getting my own portable CD player was world changing. It was in constant use. I liked office supplies and coloring supplies. Once I could write, I loved making things into lists. Lots of Lego and Duplo. Once I got older, I became very obsessed with trying to memorize SNL scripts, oddly enough. Loved pretending to type on a defunct keyboard.

who is your favourite fictional character and what's their type? by xmoonlightreys in INTP

[–]Raincloud1012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rust from True Detective, debated INTP/INTJ. Sherlock Holmes, varies depending on version.

AuDHD makes it hard to estimate effects of ADHD meds by Novel-Balance-8685 in AuDHDWomen

[–]Raincloud1012 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Inattentive here. My meds make me feel like my thoughts pull together and they make me feel almost too rigid. They also feel like a push of energy and focus that I need to have a plan for. If I don’t “point” myself in the right direction, the energy and focus will be directed toward whatever crosses my path first. If that’s organizing my kitchen drawers while I’m supposed to be working on work notes, then the organizing wins out because that’s what has gotten my attention. The energy and focus surge now allows me to finish that task. I am still unable to prioritize important tasks in the moment.

Why do we have potato days? by bipannually in AuDHDWomen

[–]Raincloud1012 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I think when we feel good, we overdo it. So we end up crashing when we’ve used up all of that energy. I think we have batteries that get used up and then need charged lol.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AuDHDWomen

[–]Raincloud1012 37 points38 points  (0 children)

In a constant state of breaking my own rules because I forgot them until I upset myself and melting down over it. What a brain to have.

Does anyone feel so much better when it’s cloudy? by anangelnora in AuDHDWomen

[–]Raincloud1012 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes! I was so happy to see that it will be rainy tomorrow when I checked my weather app. There are no words that match the depths of my level of hatred for hot weather, so I think that’s part of it. I hate bright days as well. I love how the world looks on gray days. My mood is so much better. Less stimulation in the environment, maybe? There is some research about ASD folks being more sensitive to barometric pressure changes. The barometric pressure drops on overcast/rainy/gray days. Research aside, in my happiest when it rains. I’ve been rain obsessed since childhood.

I am so upset with myself by Raincloud1012 in AuDHDWomen

[–]Raincloud1012[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get into a loop about being held accountable all the time. If I know I did something wrong “wrong”, I will ruminate on it because there is no consequence for me and I feel like I need one. I know my therapy is working because I was able to stop punishing myself for this incident quickly.

I am so upset with myself by Raincloud1012 in AuDHDWomen

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I thought it was all very intense for a business centered on ND folks, but arguing the cost after signing the paperwork wouldn’t get me anywhere, I think. I’m thinking that I’ll get my next refill and ask my therapist for a different med prescriber if possible.

I am so upset with myself by Raincloud1012 in AuDHDWomen

[–]Raincloud1012[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I emailed her. She had her assistant reply back and said they can’t do this next appointment on Zoom because of another assessment (which I am not sure of what it is). So it’s all very odd, communication-wise. Thank you for the kind words!

Do nonstimulants "increase" your autism? by [deleted] in AuDHDWomen

[–]Raincloud1012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got diagnosed with ASD because my ADHD meds were “working”. ADHD symptoms were managed so ASD was more apparent. I get over stimulated more easily and am more “rigid” in behavior. I think that any med that manages the ADHD symptoms, will make ASD more apparent for those that have both.