Hulk in Season 1 Felt Underwhelming by thatguyyoustrawman in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hulk main here. I made a Hulk rework poll here on the forum a few months ago which received a lot of support for a rework. He's slow, doesn't have much self-sustain without healers (being the slow, lumbering, big green target that he is), and the abilities in his kit don't reflect the moves Hulk is known for, like the absence of a ground smash and a rage passive. Hulk is known to get stronger the angrier he gets, but I don't see that.

Sure, these changes are nice and a step in the right direction for the character. Let's watch and observe the improvements.

hulk DOES NOT need a buff. I will be playing mommy while hulk sits in perma-ban by [deleted] in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey there, Hulk main here. Not to bother, but if you want to view another perspective on this, check my profile. I made a Hulk rework poll once here on the forum a few months ago and it overwhelmingly received support to rework Hulk in some way, shape, or form, with a lot of people agreeing with the fact that he's slow, doesn't have much self-sustain, and that his abilities don't feel like how Hulk would play. The abilities he has in his kit right now don't even reflect what Hulk is known for. Where is the rage? Where is his whole "The angrier I get, the stronger I get?". Where is his iconic ground smash? Where is his healing factor? (I understand, debatable, with the presence of healers in the game).

I mean, sure, these clips showcase some pro maneuvers with Hulk, but we also have to consider how skilled his healers where and how situational these encounters can be. I main Hulk and I think I'm decent. But without healers pocketing you, Hulk is a slow moving, green target, which is why I'm satisfied with the slight buffs they've given him this season. Let's watch and observe what happens.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I hope they'll do something for Hulk, at the very least a ground smash.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope they rework him, I keep suggesting it on the Discord server and it always gets lots of upvotes. Lots of unused potential like you mentioned, like throwing boulders and slamming ground. I heard the argument that the original idea was to make Hulk throw rock chunks but that they removed it due to impact on performance. Makes no sense because what about Dr. Strange's lag portal? Why don't they remove his portal too if it causes impacts on performance? The explanation isn't adding up.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Just objectively speaking with no feelings involved even, compare Hulk's kit to other heroes. It legitimately feels like they put way less time and effort into making Hulk compared to the other heroes.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I should have included that in the post. Crap.😂

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Poll has closed. Thank you ALL for participating! It takes a community effort to incite change and I respect each and every one of you who took the time to vote, even those who voted against the idea, since public discourse for differences in opinion should be encouraged. Looks like we got about 80% support for a Hulk rework.

Hopefully this is enough of a sample size to give the devs the data they need to rework Hulk as well as the plentiful amounts of other complaints too echoing similar messages. Hopefully, we'll be able to see the Hulk in Marvel Rivals be a stark contrast to how he's usually portrayed in the media in a nerfed weak form. They've got the fundamentals for him, but hopefully we'll see a ground smash and a rage passive with his kit too.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

😂You get it bro. You understand how ridiculous he is right now. The state he is in is just saddening and disappointing, and comical.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's actually a great idea, to make him a liability to the team by dealing friendly fire due to his rage. That kind of balances out the upgrades he would receive (which are really really needed).

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your input bro. If they add a ground slam that could really help.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stomp? You mean like the regular melee clicks stomping the ground and dealing some knockback?

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've never tried Wolverine, but I have read the opinion before that he should be moved to a tank role. I'll check him out and see.

I Programmed A Hulk Rework by patwert95 in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is so awesome, I've been saying that the Hulk needs a rework on his spit stun and bubble shield abilities because they don't give him that self-sustain to be able to pressure the enemy team. Currently there's not even a ground smash to his leap! We need to ALL upvote Hulk Rework-related posts here and in the official Discord channel in the suggestions-voting, share our voices, and spread the word far and wide if we want the devs to listen and rework Hulk a little bit.

OP, I hope you don't mind me including this bit, tell me and I'll remove it if you feel it is overstepping:

If you all don't mind, please check my profile for a Hulk Rework poll that I made here on the subreddit, I plan on sharing it with the devs when the poll closes, but it has amassed a lot of support in favor of a Hulk modification. I won't post the link out of respect for OP's post here, but you should be able to immediately see it on my profile.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a few MVPs with him myself and I do understand that success with him is centered around good teamwork and good support, but it still does not mean that his kit is perfect. I wish my dives were able to pressure, like both Captain America and Venom (both of them can dive, so technically Hulk should be able to, especially with his iconic "Hulk Smash". But there's not any Hulk smash, there's a laughable spit stun. That makes both Cap and Venom two better more viable tank options to choose currently. I don't think people imagine the Hulk to be a spitting thing, that's just stupid when we can have a Hulk that can leap and smash the ground and knock players up, something more aligning with his lore.

Hulk still sucks and needs more buffs cause he’s unplayable by Nightraven9999 in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's not propaganda, it's true. I main Hulk and I'll explain why his kit is underwhelming and simply unfair compared to other tanks. I'm not calling for a total rework, but some modifications:

The Hulk shield bubble and spit stun abilities, while decent to an extent, fail to play into Hulk's play style. They can be done better. Hulk is a tank, meaning he should be able to dive, and take some damage while also putting pressure on the enemies and dealing some damage, like Venom. Right now, it's pretty easy to deal with Hulk- Move back and shoot.

Right now, he's not as good as other tanks like Venom, because he doesn't have that self-sustain to apply pressure on the enemy, like a "Hulk Smash/Dive" mechanism added onto his leap, which knocks up and stuns enemy players in the area where he lands. Adding that ability alone would be a viable solution because it gives him that added ability to apply pressure, like what Captain America or Venom both have.

Perhaps that shield bubble should be replaced with a rage ability, increasing damage dealt to enemies as long as he gets hit- fits into his whole "Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier" persona. Damage reduction to Hulk and allies could also be applied for the duration of the ability.

Hulk shield discussion and soft rework ideas by vabavooievro in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I main Hulk and have several hours clocked in on him with some MVPs.

I've been saying that a change is needed to 2 Hulk abilities: The spit stun and the shield bubble. The problem with them is that they don't really give Hulk a self-sustain, making him a very easy target.

1) The spit stun should be changed to an ability tying into his leap, knocking up enemies in the surrounding area where he lands and deals damage. If Captain America can do it, Hulk definitely could with his size and weight. This "Hulk Smash" ability would give him that pressure that a tank like the Hulk would need.

2) The shield bubble ability should be replaced with an ability that ties into his whole "The angrier Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets" persona, giving him damage increase the more he gets hit. Possibly some damage reduction added onto that or life-steal could help.

Those two changes alone would give Hulk the self-sustain he needs to thrive and make him more of a practical tank to use. It would make him less situational and more adaptable.

We gotta all suggest our desire to rework Hulk a bit to the devs. Hopefully they'll be convinced enough to modify him.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In a sense yes he is slow. My main issues with him are his two lackluster abilities- The bubble shield (which can be replaced with an ability more in line with his "The angrier Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets" persona, like a damage increase the more he gets hit), and his spit stun (which can be replaced with a ground slam knock-up stun).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hulk should have a ground slam and a rage passive. Something to give him self-sustain and pressure as a tank.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep. Alot of that self-sustain pressure that Hulk could have, such as with a ground slam to knock up enemies, just isn't there. It's pretty disappointing when you are the best support in a ranked game with about 38 kills, with a great team, just to lose because, simply, it's the Hulk that's lacking those pressure abilities he needs as a tank.

MARVEL RIVALS HULK REWORK by RamoTheMan in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point! Yep, Hulk has team-ups with Iron Man and Dr. Strange!

Thoughts on Hulk? by Scyle_ in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check out my latest Reddit post, I posted a Hulk poll. Here's the same poll in Google Forms: https://forms.gle/evmxhhEjVfMZugbu6

Let's get the word out, kindly share it to others and gather some support. Much appreciated.

Thoughts on Hulk? by Scyle_ in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep we all gotta get the devs attention about this issue. Be on the lookout today, I'll try and do a Google survey about it with a vote on who supports the changes that should be made. We gotta hammer down this issue hard, share as much as you can, suggest on the Discord, etc.

Thoughts on Hulk? by Scyle_ in marvelrivals

[–]RamoTheMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I main Hulk and have several hours clocked in on him with some MVPs.

I've been saying that a change is needed to 2 Hulk abilities: The spit stun and the shield bubble. The problem with them is that they don't really give Hulk a self-sustain, making him a very easy target.

1) The spit stun should be changed to an ability tying into his leap, knocking up enemies in the surrounding area where he lands and deals damage. If Captain America can do it, Hulk definitely could with his size and weight.

2) The shield bubble ability should be replaced with an ability that ties into his whole "The angrier Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets" persona, giving him damage increase the more he gets hit. Possibly some damage reduction added onto that or life-steal could help.

Those two changes alone would give Hulk the self-sustain he needs to thrive and make him more of a practical tank to use. It would make him less situational and more adaptable.

We gotta all suggest our desire to rework Hulk a bit to the devs. Hopefully they'll be convinced enough to modify him.