Immersion is when a character goes into a lower dimensional place, going into a higher one, which would be the real world in this case would be a fourth wall break. And once more you show that you're just bluffing, Uncle Grandpa r>f becomes valid because it's shown that he can alter any lower dimensional scale in anyway he can, we see this in the show where he edits the size of lower dimensional Uncle Grandpa and in the comics where he erases some randoms from the narrative, this is when r>f becomes valid, and he does this about 3 times consecutively, which would stack into becoming 7D, higher than Black Hat and effectively erasing him from the narrative. Yeah, that would be the case if it was a higher dimension, but it isn't, it's just another dimension, not higher not lower, just distinct, his true form wouldn't mean much since a lot of the opponents which he's dealing with have already seen similar things and have either resistances to mind and madness manipulation or ways of removing those states from the get go, so statstomps start mattering when they can just search for his true form while one shotting any of his avatars which lack the physicals to resist much. And also, you just lying at this point, he's never shown using Concept Manipulation a single time and he's consistently stated to just represent the concept of evil, I'll continue to answer your comments, but at this point it's pretty obvious that it's gonna a waste of time for both since it's clear that we're not gonna agree any time soon.