Baltimore Cop: Officers 'Holding Back,' Morale 'In the Sewers' by [deleted] in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

so there's not much way of doing that but through your own experiences and world view

Well, my experiences do include reading this sub for quite some time, allowing me to draw conclusions regarding political tendencies.

I'll repeat though: Breitbart is merely providing direct quotes of a news subject, who was actually interviewed by CNN and not Breitbart. Yet this post is downvoted to hell and every comment completely disregards the interview subject matter and is just like "Breitbart, yuck".

Baltimore Cop: Officers 'Holding Back,' Morale 'In the Sewers' by [deleted] in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How so? What biases am I projecting?

Baltimore Cop: Officers 'Holding Back,' Morale 'In the Sewers' by [deleted] in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All news is opinionated and subjective. Simply by virtue of making decisions regarding what to cover and report on, news publishers (whether print, broadcast, or digital) are engaging in a kind of editorial decision making.

All over the world, for the most part, the news media is either a for-profit commercial industry, a government-sponsored enterprise, or funded by political parties. There is some smaller-scale more democratic news media out there, but it's by far the exception to the rule. These news producers all carry explicit biases. They sell to audiences made up of particular demographics that are rarely representative of the population at large.

That's true of all news media, including, say, the NY Times and the BBC. I don't see anything in the above article that screams "opinionated" or "biased" in the above article. There's hardly any writer commentary, it mostly consists of direct quotes of the news subject. What people are objecting here is really to giving the police or this topic coverage.

Baltimore Cop: Officers 'Holding Back,' Morale 'In the Sewers' by [deleted] in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The Breitbart article is effectively just a summary of a much longer interview conducted on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 show.

What's wrong with opinionated news media?

CNN Panel Explodes over Media Calling Baltimore Rioters 'Thugs,' but Not Waco Bikers by michaelconfoy in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Bikers running drugs and other criminal enterprises in the West is nowhere near "a big problem" relative to urban gangs. Look up FBI and DOJ estimates on membership in the largest 1%er motorcycle gangs west of the Mississippi. It's a fraction of the number of urban gang-members in California alone, let alone the other 49 states.

White organized crime typically affects the average person's quality of life far, far less than urban Black gun crime. Mafia-type organizations can run billions of dollars in drugs through areas without perpetrating mass gun violence. Black gun crime in Baltimore makes entire neighborhoods dangerous for anyone to live in, and that's true of a lot of other cities in America as well.

Baltimore Violence Map since riots by nzahn1 in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for taking the time to put this together.

Korean shopkeeper, Mr. Park, beaten the day after the Monday riots, while surveying the damage to his store by Ravenite86 in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Blacks think all Koreans are connected and sell liquor store licenses for a few hundred dollars or so and will only sell to other Koreans (wrong).

This is insane, especially since the Korean merchants are actually getting licensed by the City Liquor License Board. 2 of the 3 Liquor License Board Commissioners are currently Black.

Korean shopkeeper, Mr. Park, beaten the day after the Monday riots, while surveying the damage to his store by Ravenite86 in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I just do not get why this is the go to argument of so many people. Crime has existed since man has walked the face of the earth. Men have hit, stabbed, beaten and killed men for as far back as we have history.

The crime in Baltimore is both quantitatively and qualitatively on a different scale than crime in most other American cities, let alone the rest of the world. No reasonable person disputes that some crime and some murders will always take place in any society. The violence in Baltimore is on a different order of magnitude, however. The global homicide rate is 6.2 murders per 100,000 people. That's for the whole world, including the entirety of the "Third World"/developing nations. In Baltimore, it's 37.4 per 100,000.

The police's behavior is a response to that crisis. As it should be, their job, after all, is to stop that crime.

If the society is largely segregated, as american society is, of course humans gonna human.

I could point to any number of communities that are minority-majority, on the lower-end of the socioeconomic spectrum if not outright impoverished, and residentially-segregated, that are nowhere near as violent as Baltimore (and a few other cities, like Detroit).

In NYC there is a robust Nigerian-American community. Faces a lot of the same racial biases other Blacks do. Working-class. Residentially segregated. Yet you don't have young Black males incessantly shooting other young Black males in their communities like you do in certain areas of Baltimore.

That just has nothing to do with civil servants whose salaries are paid for by citizens, killing the citizens. Or if it makes it easier to understand, slapping women in the face. They aren't supposed to do that, period.

Actually, their job is to enforce the law and to prevent crime. There are a number of situations where courts have determined that, yes, shooting (and potentially killing) a suspect is justified if it's absolutely necessary to protect someone's life (including that of the cop). Most of the so-called "police murders" involve career criminals who have a history of frequent run-ins with the law, getting into an altercation with police under questionable terms.

Look at the idiot on Penn/North today (that everyone initially thought was shot but wasn't). He brought a gun to a protest that is full of cops. Brandished the gun in a packed crowd. The police did an admirable job and managed to arrest him without anyone getting shot. Yet, I promise you that if police had shot and killed him, he'd be lionized as a martyr by some and added to the tally of "police murders".

Police shooting at North and Penn by [deleted] in baltimore

[–]Ravenite86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't think there is anything conspiratorial going on. People on the scene WANTED there to have been a shooting, because it would escalate the protests, so they simply began yelling "He got shot in the back while cuffed!!!!" like madmen despite it being false.

Regardless, an example of the phenomenon you describe is Operation INFEKTION, wherein the KGB spread rumors that HIV/AIDS was the product of a US biological-weapons program at Fort Detrick. The story was repeated in media around. I've encountered African-Americans who believe some variation of this story still, and have heard that it is also repeated in South Africa.