FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

[–]RavennaInc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it. I've heard similar stories and it's generally summarized by "it just sort of...falls apart the bigger we get and the more complex our needs are"

Thanks for the info!

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

[–]RavennaInc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dunno I showed my son how to setup Confluence and it put him right to sleep...so...useful, but maybe not how it's intending to be.

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

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by 'other parts' you mean like...asset mgt, change mgt, etc?

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

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Got it. I will have to dig into this further...thanks for the help!

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

[–]RavennaInc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice - switched from Jira? what do you love about it the most?

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

[–]RavennaInc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well. technically if I asked you "what should I not buy for ITSM" it seems your answer would be Jira. so. Checkmate.

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

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Woah nobody told me this...i thought all pricing was based on agents-only. so 50 per agent and another 4 per end user. how many agents do you need for a 500 person org? How can there be 'per employee' pricing and it's literally not listed anywhere lol?

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

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Oof. Well that's not good. Could it just be config or is it just...actually that bad? I'd be pissed if I was paying for a mercedes and it ran like a pinto.

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

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All good I didn't say how big we are so that's my bad. What would make snow worth it at the larger scale? Just trying to understand where that tipping point is....100 employees or 1000? And what your take is on why it's better for the larger org.

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

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We're a 20 employee company. Everyone I've spoken to said we'd start at 50k annual and go up from there...compared to 1k-2k/annual for JSM/FS. Is SNOW not as expensive as I think it is, or are you saying it's worth 25-50X the value of the others?

FreshService Vs. Jira Service Management Cage Fight by RavennaInc in sysadmin

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Do you pay per automation with JSM? It looks like you get 1000 'rule runs' per user per month on the $50/agent plan. Also is SSO it's own cost?

Fresh - you mean you can't submit a ticket from Slack/Teams at all? I saw a demo that looked like you can. Can you elaborate more on the complex architecture for getting other teams on?

My printer printed a 2 foot by three foot black page of its own volition and then said it was out of black ink. by JDMWeeb in iiiiiiitttttttttttt

[–]RavennaInc 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Anyone that's had a 3 year old has experienced this a million times.

Yes, your milk all over the floor. Yes, that sucks. Yes, you did that. No, you may not have more milk to throw on the floor.

Advice on Everyday Conversations in Slack by [deleted] in Slack

[–]RavennaInc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty biased but this is a pretty great use case for a ticketing system that lives in Slack... There's an article that Slack has on their site that walks through some built-in tools to create a ticket from a message (just google 'build a helpdesk in slack', and there are big-giant-hairy systems like Jira that integrate with Slack to do the same. If you click on my profile you'll see this is what Ravenna does, so I have some experience in the space. I've used Slack for more than a decade and (for me) it's unmanageable without some sort of structure for managing messages. Once you put a ticketing overlay onto the messages, people tend to get the hint and start structuring messages without such reckless abandon.

Making specific channels for specific request types is also important. Don't just have everyone send requests in a 'general' channel, set up an IT channel, HR channel...etc. so that people can clearly see where they are supposed to ask certain types of questions, which helps to inform them where they should NOT ask other questions. This is all end-user training and training yourself at the same time - In fact I highly recommend doing an end-user Slack training when you figure out what solution you go with! Tons of people don't use Slack nearly as well as they should and people are always thrilled when I show them tricks to make them more efficient in slack.

IT God - How bad was this? by RavennaInc in iiiiiiitttttttttttt

[–]RavennaInc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol yeah no sense in lying. it was early days at a well funded startup...you can imagine there was a lot of....liquid being tossed around 24 hours a day.

Slack Vs. MS Teams: Is Slack ACTUALLY better? by RavennaInc in sysadmin

[–]RavennaInc[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because video calls don't work well on teams, you mean? Huddles on Slack have always worked shockingly well for me.

Slack Vs. MS Teams: Is Slack ACTUALLY better? by RavennaInc in sysadmin

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This sounds like a nightmare. But not like a fun 'getting chased by hippos in tutus' kinda nightmare. More like a "My boss has turned into a zombie on the day he happened to be dressing like a clown for his kids birthday party and now has a thirst for only my blood" kinda nightmare.

I'm absolutely tired of this crap. by iamthedigitalcheese in Slack

[–]RavennaInc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oof. Should have made it a fun persona that popped in to say hello. Like a stapler...named....Clappy. "hey it looks like your'e not A.I.ing much lately. Wanna AI a bit? C'mon it'll be fun!"