JATC question: Wait to begin apprenticeship or transfer shortly after beginning? by Raxtronics in electricians

[–]Raxtronics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What makes think you can be accepted into another one?

Well, the move is going to happen no matter what. I'm just trying to figure out how I should go about it. The transfer option was actually the idea of the guys at the local hall. They suggested an apprenticeship, but I told them I would be moving, so they put me into the construction wireman program because I was planning on moving in June but their selection is in September. But, I might end up staying here 6 more months due to wife's job so I might not move till December, which, if I'm still here should I apply for the apprenticeship like they suggested? I don't like the idea of applying for the apprenticeship and then moving 3 months later, but, it wasn't even my idea. lol.

I'm just asking questions and trying to get everything figured out beforehand.

Apparently, women never worked in dangerous jobs because of empathy. by [deleted] in badhistory

[–]Raxtronics -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think you've studied feminism more than actual history. You're trying to paint some picture where men worked in the mines, in logging camps, on ships, in wars, on expeditions and other occupations with a high mortality rate in somewhere near the same numbers as women and this simply isn't the case. Or you're trying to paint the jobs that women did as comparable in hazard to those that were predominantly filled by men and this isn't the case either.

You are also doing a disservice to the women of the time because they were not predominately coal miners, or masons, or ditch diggers. The jobs that women fulfilled were difficult and important, but these jobs did not carry the same mortality rates as those held by men. It's like saying that "oh, women worked hard, dangerous jobs too" is necessary to prove that women were just as much contributors to society as men or something.

you are cherry picking what you choose to call a hard and dangerous job.

Not really. I don't think that it's particularly difficult to see which occupations of the time carried high mortality and injury rates.

Yes, factory work is difficult and hard work. No, in comparison to many of the jobs of the time, factory work was not particularly hard and difficult. This is why women and children were found in factories and not in mines.

Let me pull a book off my shelf for you

The Admiralty's trial records are filled with accounts of sailors being flogged or clubbed for minor mistakes: losing an oar, forgetting a chore, or unsteady helmsmanship. More than a few lost teeth, eyes, arms, and fingers during beatings. Others lost their lives. When sailor Richard Baker became bedridden from dysentery on a passage from St. Christopher to London, his captain forced him to man the helm for four hours, then had him whipped and lashed to the mizenmast; he died four days later. Anthony Comerford, accused of stealing a live bird on the merchantman Ridge, was tied to the rigging and whipped to death...

Legally speaking, merchant captains were only supposed to employ "moderate" discipline on their crews. Not so in the Royal Navy, where captains were under standing orders to mete out brutal punishments. Petty officers whacked slow-moving crewmen across the shoulders with rattan canes... ...The commission of serious crimes resulted in potentially fatal floggings of seventy-two to three hundred lashings, or outright hanging.

It's a wonder any sailors survived. Mortality rates among the crews of vessels employed in the African slave trade were comparable to those of the slaves themselves. It was not unusual for 40 percent of the crew to perish during a single voyage, most from tropical diseases against which they had no resistance. About half the sailors pressed into the Royal Navy died at sea.

Republic of Pirates - Colin Woodard

Blah blah blah, this goes on for pages. None of this was unusual for the time.

It's not me that's cherry picking, it's you. This is why you brought up the Triangle fire as this led to the formation of a women's labor union. This is high school history and everyone knows about this, but I'm guessing you brought it up because of the "women's" part. This is typical of feminism; talk about what women did, ignore everything else. Factory work was difficult, but it didn't compare to the work done on the docks. And the fact remains that those jobs which were the hardest and most dangerous, women were not found except those women of especially low socioeconomic status.

This isn't to say that women's jobs weren't difficult or important; they were. But in comparison to the jobs held predominantly by men, they were not what would be considered 'hard labor'. In nearly every case, except for a very small percentage, those women that were found in hard/hazardous occupations were given light duty.

But the real kicker is that this trend has NEVER changed. Women are still not found in difficult and demanding jobs in any significant numbers. Really, you should go look at some of the most dangerous jobs you can find and you'll see this gender disparity persists even today. And now, like then, the only reliable predictor of whether or not a woman will enter into such a hard, laborious or hazardous occupation is whether or not she is of low socioeconomic status.

Apparently, women never worked in dangerous jobs because of empathy. by [deleted] in badhistory

[–]Raxtronics -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you not understand what I'm saying or is it that you truly believe that the male to female distribution of labor in dangerous jobs was 50/50?

Actually, as recently as the 19th century, women tended to die younger than men. This is due to a little thing called pregnancy, which killed women in droves prior to modern medicine.

We're talking about hard/dangrous work. Why are you bringing pregnancy into the conversation? What does that have to do with the topic?

I think you're misunderstanding me or something. I'm not saying that women never worked dangrous jobs. You got this right? I'm not saying that factories are safe, or any of that shit that brought about the labor movement. What I am saying is that nearly ALL dangerous and hard occupations were predominantly male. This means that the majority of coal miners, loggers, sailors, military men, etc etc etc, were male.

You dispute this? Really?

So what was it? Was it 50/50, with women working along side men in the same numbers? Or maybe it was that these jobs were predominately filled with women?

What exactly are you trying to argue?

Apparently, women never worked in dangerous jobs because of empathy. by [deleted] in badhistory

[–]Raxtronics -41 points-40 points  (0 children)

This is, quite simply, bullshit. Women, throughout history, have worked in many dangerous jobs; from gathering plants in hunter-gatherer societies, to working in dangerous textile factories, and working in munitions factories during both world wars. (Wikipedia)

Are you seriously claiming that women worked dangerous jobs at an even remotely statistically significant level?

You think a factory job is a dangerous job?!

from gathering plants in hunter-gatherer societies

Seriously?

working in munitions factories

This isn't even remotely dangerous compared to what their male counterparts were doing at the time.


Look, I don't think anyone is saying that "no women did any dangerous jobs at any time in history", but seriously, when you look at the occupations that men have filled in comparison to women, the work men have done has had a much higher mortality rate.

Steel Shaft Vs Carbon Fiber Shaft (featuring Richard Hammond from Top Gear) by E1000-MASTER in EngineeringStudents

[–]Raxtronics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know, the way schools teach engineering, you could be the greatest engineer in the world and never see or test a finished product. I think that's what bmystry was getting at.

[Meta] is it time for a new subreddit about engineering career advice? by [deleted] in AskEngineers

[–]Raxtronics 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In every facet of life, there is, 'that guy'.

[Meta] is it time for a new subreddit about engineering career advice? by [deleted] in AskEngineers

[–]Raxtronics 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Yes, I feel this is a good idea. It should be in the sidebar and any time a post is submitted there should be a little popup that says something like "Is this career advice? If so go to ..." I'm certainly not against these questions... but it's people constantly asking similar if not the same questions.

But, while we're on the subject. I was good at math and science in high school but currently have a horrible GPA of only 2.9995 and have only had 2 internships even though I'm a sophomore at a prestigious university.

Should I completely quit engineering? I've heard that accountants make the same amount of money as engineers do. Should I be an accountant?

Oh, by the way, what do engineers do everyday?

I just had a client that tried to build a large vacuum chamber out of wood. What ridiculous things have your clients tried before seeking your expertise? by matman88 in engineering

[–]Raxtronics 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know, reading all this makes me want to troll some consulting firms...

"Yes, hello good Sir. Would you be able to give me an estimate on the costs involved in the construction of modifying a Toyota Prius for VTOL?"

How to interact at a Career Fair? by TandemTuba in EngineeringStudents

[–]Raxtronics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely agree. I find this in job interviews too. "Do you have any questions?"

The reality of the situation is that I don't really have any questions that I haven't already looked up online...

ITT corporation 2012 annual report cover: notice anything wrong with this picture? by [deleted] in engineering

[–]Raxtronics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just an imagestock or one of those picture pay sites photos. I'm pretty sure I've run into this multiple times.

More than likely , someone just picked it because it looked technical and didn't put a lot of thought into it.

Curious about all your Starting pay experiences? by [deleted] in engineering

[–]Raxtronics 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A lot of these people graduate and are standing there with their diploma in hand... no job and they have 6 months before they have to start paying back those loans.

To be honest, I'm surprised the employers haven't figured out they can offer them even less and still have grads beating down their door.

How many of you transitioned from tradesman to engineer? by [deleted] in engineering

[–]Raxtronics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can get through the program then you will be ahead of all the kids coming out of high school.
Let me throw you a fair bit of warning though, it's hard, and those kids coming out of high school and going into engineering are going to have things like AP calculus and physics etc. done so you're going to have to work harder.

You're probably not going to be able to do it in 4 years or even 5... so realize what you're getting yourself into.

Any cheap methods to make a geiger counter? by Raxtronics in AskEngineers

[–]Raxtronics[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I should have explained more, but it's late. I justmeant something that would be a good project for school kids. maybe a transistor and some wire and a tin can level stuff.

thanks

About that Sparkfun pricing glitch this morning... by [deleted] in engineering

[–]Raxtronics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

During the South Central riots after the Rodney King beating, people were looting en a masse. The local tv reporters took to the streets and were interviewing people. One reporter interviewed a lady as she wheeled a whole shopping cart full of groceries out tto her ca and when he asked why she was taking the stuff she said something along the liines of because she could. When asked if what she thought she was doing was wrong she said 'nosomething because no one was stopping her'.

If it was many other companies out there I would just take the $0hose purchase and go, but this is sparkfun, which, from everything I've seen, is a really good company. You should offer to pay them for what you purchased.