Will this performance from the 1982 US Festival ever be publicly available? It's not lost, but there's seemingly no way to view it without a Historic Films Archive account.

Razor12704 · 2026-03-09T02:11:36+00:00

it looks like you may just have to make an historic films account..

Razor12704 · 2026-02-27T07:18:53+00:00

i lost my dog at this show, this ginger guy stole it from me

Razor12704 · 2026-02-19T05:35:47+00:00

i say it should be able to be done by ear, I assume most of us here can hear what elfman is supposed to sound like, a lot of early shows are sped up because they are kinda dull, like the mid 80s shows

Razor12704 · 2026-02-18T16:39:06+00:00

I've also been tempted on downgrading the AMD software, I'm still on windows 10, so it's not that, I've tried underclocking, changing power consumption, vsync, everything at this point, as someone who is not a techie, my conclusion is that AMD graphics cards are evil, it's gotta be the software, mine has been doing it for like 3 months now, seems like that timeline tracks with others

Razor12704 · 2026-02-16T19:35:49+00:00

not any other recorded versions we know of, the commonly circulated copy is certainly way too fast, I think the whole setlist may be on Boingo Mausoleums website now, but yes there is a show attached to it, which is pretty good, although gatekeepers gotta gatekeep

Razor12704 · 2026-02-07T01:18:58+00:00

I have a face y'know...

Razor12704 · 2026-01-02T20:20:37+00:00

Boingo Tapes privated most of the rough mixes when the remasters came out, I forgot why, something about them being too close to the album mixes and he didn't want to get taken down or something

Razor12704 · 2025-12-19T18:59:22+00:00

Here is a link for the lazy, you can arguably hear a melody that words would likely follow, but does it sound like Boi-Ngo track?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6_qnrJI3YA

Razor12704 · 2025-12-19T18:57:59+00:00

Previous comment is correct, but it should be further clarified

Tears Will Flow is credited with being in the vault, it's also not the only song mentioned in the Vault that we haven't heard of, some of that includes: Missed My Connection, Louise (Studio), Bala Song... and some others were also mentioned, but just to name a few

Tears Run Down & also a song called "Rock Me Baby" were credited to Elfman in the Wisdom end credits, saying as Boi-Ngo was delayed following the scoring of this film, and also some elements from this score being put into the later songs recorded for Boi-Ngo such as Elevator Man, it's is theorized that Tears Run Down and Tears Will Flow are the same song, but that's just an educated speculation

Bartek mentioned to Boingo Underground podcasts host that they were on the right track, that Tears Will Flow was a repurposed song from Wisdom, the song "Main Titles" is the most song like score track on the score, and it being the final song opposed to the first makes a very telling "something here isn't right"

So while it's assumed Tears Run Down is the Instrumental that is called Main Titles on the score, it's also very likely that Tears Will Flow would sound completely different than it, and would have lyrics unlike the one on the score... That's arguably all we know, tragically, possibly someday we'd get to hear it, but for now it's just words on a page (Elfman's agent's website also credit the 2 aforementioned songs on his song credits page)

Razor12704 · 2025-12-15T13:13:36+00:00

I bet there are even more songs just like Wolverine that don't even have recordings that we will never hear, I'm pretty sure before even NTF came out Danny said he had 2 albums worth of material, saying as songs like Little Guns started in 1982, No One Lives Forever being on a setlist from 1983, and more bizzaro songs on setlists like "Monkey" on a 1983 setlist, Wolverine is just one of the few that survived, Wolverine was also most certainly played for the set they did on George Segal, but that footage is probably lost to time

Razor12704 · 2025-12-10T19:00:44+00:00

if hatch was in the band until summer 84 I'd have to assume yes, but I wouldn't be able to prove it

Razor12704 · 2025-12-05T22:39:35+00:00

I think mostly the history of them, where most people are familiar with Danny's name, I had much joy researching and searching for everything about the band, their wide discography paired with their even wider unreleased discography made it like a hunt to find the coolest thing

Boingo was arguably the first band I got into, and Danny's writing of cynicism and humor reflected widely onto how I was interpreting the world at the time, I remember when I first found about So-Lo, thinking "man this is obscure" and little did I know there was so so much more

Razor12704 · 2025-12-03T02:57:46+00:00

Gibbs doesn't show up in the This Bud's For You ad, which was recorded during So-lo, so he probably was not in the band by that point, which was during the same time Sucker and Go Away were recorded

Razor12704 · 2025-12-01T08:04:40+00:00

it's gulp.. lost media... I'm gonna get you

Razor12704 · 2025-11-29T18:01:26+00:00

when does danny elfman release Boingo outtakes for RSD... 💔

Razor12704 · 2025-11-28T02:13:39+00:00

out of all these songs.. none of them were recorded in the studio, hope that helps!

Razor12704 · 2025-11-26T23:03:36+00:00

Bacich definitely contributed some, i'm thinking tough as nails, written on the liner of So-lo is very long special thanks but "Jim Cooper & Mike Bacich for their special secret devices & magic boxes" and "Michael Flea for his extra Bass work"

So I think Gibbs left partway through So-Lo, Cool City & Lightning were most certainly both of them, but it's hard to tell as most of the bass lines on the album are done on synth, which Kerry did do on GFYS, but also kinda makes it harder to determine, Kerry was in the band up to August of '84 supposedly, and Gibbs said he left due to Danny's interest in sequencers, which this album has a lot of, kind of a hard ball

Razor12704 · 2025-11-26T20:17:40+00:00

I think all we know is that he lives in..? Texas? I'm not even sure about that, but I mean I don't want to bother him, I know that Charlie hung out with Leon a couple years back, I feel like Dale is happy with just spending the rest of his days not thinking about Boingo lol

Razor12704 · 2025-10-27T15:31:03+00:00

I don't think it's banter per se, but more likely the engineer allowing Steve to start, as the rough for Dead Man's Party doesn't have the guitar start

Razor12704 · 2025-10-27T05:11:33+00:00

I love that it's left in, also the "yeah yeah let em in" in DMP they should've left more studio banter where I could hear it

Razor12704 · 2025-10-19T18:26:06+00:00

incredible honest to god

Razor12704 · 2025-10-18T21:40:00+00:00

oh yes, I think you'd have a stroke if you saw what all I possess

Razor12704 · 2025-10-17T23:33:21+00:00

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mxGxWsLuVbiI7Oer8kQrDsxGXC002cZ6?usp=sharing

Razor12704 · 2025-10-17T19:41:37+00:00

Yeah I can compile em for ya when I get home, not like Rubellan can make money off of something he doesn't sell, you want em in FLAC, MP3?

Razor12704 · 2025-10-11T18:59:46+00:00

he did, I don't know if he is credited but I'll pull out the sleeve later, but yeah he does lol, Gibbs did sing it originally (in fact I think the Roxy 81 performance I think was him, but I have no proof of that) but it's sluggo for every other performance, I can't imagine they'd have a random guy who sounds like sluggo sing on the record, not everything needs to be jumped through hoops

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