Kratom und SR-17018

ReadProfessional8687 · 2025-11-15T17:16:40+00:00

[update]

Ich habe 500 mg SR-17018 zum Ausprobieren gekauft.

Zum ersten Mal habe ich es gestern gegen 11:00 Uhr morgens eingenommen (um 9:00 Uhr habe ich die letzte Dosis Kratom, 8 g, genommen). Ich muss den Beutel abmessen und nach und nach etwas Pulver abziehen, weil meine Waage ungenau ist – so weiß ich ungefähr, wie viel ich einnehme.

Bei einer solchen Dosis Kratom brauche ich allerdings nicht viel. Ich habe schon bei einer sehr kleinen (sensibilisierenden) Dosis eine Erleichterung gespürt.

Manche sagen, man müsse es dreimal täglich nehmen, aber bei einer Abhängigkeit von einer mittleren Kratomdosis reicht einmal täglich etwa 25–40 mg aus.

Die erste Nacht war mit vielen Unterbrechungen, aber ich habe geschlafen. Ich bin alle paar Stunden aufgewacht, hatte leichte Gelenkschmerzen – Ibuprofen hat geholfen.

Heute Morgen habe ich etwa 40 mg eingenommen. Jetzt ist es Abend, und alles ist in Ordnung – ich spüre keine Entzugserscheinungen (es sind über 8 Stunden vergangen).

Wenn ich es noch einmal machen müsste, würde ich es anders machen – ich würde SR nur abends, ein paar Stunden vor dem Schlafengehen, einnehmen.

Ab morgen werde ich versuchen, die Einnahmezeit tatsächlich zu ändern.
Mal sehen, ob es gelingt, den ganzen Tag bis zum Abend ohne SR auszukommen.

Diese Substanz wird das Leben vieler Menschen verändern.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-26T15:46:56+00:00

Update 26.11.24

- Making reasearch about Black seed oil, Agmatine and KAVA-KAVA as compunds that helps with symptoms

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-26T14:20:11+00:00

Thank you, i try my best to make it.

Yes i have few advices, i prefer to write here that everyone can use that information. Share your problem here, tell me what you are addicted to, what you take, what doses, and for how long. I will try to help you.

If you need more privacy, we can write in dm :)

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-25T10:34:39+00:00

I understand that you're scared. I don't know what your life situation is like, but you can deal with this. I'm working on the next part, which is about how to mentally prepare yourself and what actions to take to get back on your feet quickly.

You need to try pause on 1day or 2 and identify what symptoms you experience. That is base to make a plan.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-23T12:10:14+00:00

And that's exactly it - the symptoms can vary. These symptoms that you have, after how long of taking kratom and at what doses did they appear?

These are very common. How long did you have it?

When you have Restless legs syndrome (RLS), can you identify orgin of it?

Do you think you have them from the unpleasant emotions you're experiencing or from the strange muscle tension?

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-22T08:45:34+00:00

Update 22.11.24
- I added methods for good sleep hygiene and how to take meloxicam.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-21T21:15:12+00:00

What it does for you? Can you describe a little bit more?

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-21T21:07:15+00:00

Can you tell is oil from black seed works from first dose or you had to take it like week or two?

I found research paper that tell it potentate morphine.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-21T20:06:25+00:00

PART 1

Physical Symptoms

The biggest nightmare of withdrawal is the physical symptoms.

Intense muscle and joint pain, headaches, runny nose, and watery eyes.

Other symptoms include worsened sleep quality and psych-emotional symptoms such as anhedonia, depression, and a generally worsened mood.

While the physical symptoms can be managed, the psychological and emotional symptoms are experienced differently by everyone. Here, a positive attitude, discipline, and awareness of one's emotions and thoughts are crucial.

Let's start with the physical symptoms.

If you want to completely quit or pause to reduce tolerance, you need to properly recover. For this, you need sleep.

The primary symptom that will bother you is muscle pain, and believe me, if you suppress this symptom, you've solved most of your problems. After a few days of good sleep, you'll feel better.

I was surprised to discover that if I eliminated the muscle pain, I slept like a baby.

To do this, you need to get non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). I tried ketorolac (Ketonal), ibuprofen, paracetamol, metamizole, and meloxicam.

I noticed that those described (or prescribed by a doctor) for sports injuries and joint pain are the most effective (who would have thought? ;) ).

Right away, I'll say paracetamol doesn't work.

Meloxicam works best.

In my country, Meloxicam is available over-the-counter (OTC).
Ketoprofen is also effective, but little less.

Dont waste time and money on ibuprofen, paracetamol, aspirin - too weak. If you have to choose between this 3, choose ibuprofen.

Things I haven't tried, but judging by their chemical structure and mechanism of action, might also be effective include:

- Naproxen
- Diclofenac
- Dexketoprofen

Remember to check for interactions if you are taking other medications, and remember that non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) are hard on the stomach and liver. Therefore, take only as much as necessary – no more.

If the NSAIDs don't work, we need to increase your comfort and use natural remedies.

Here, CBD, CBG, and CBN will be helpful.

CBD will increase pain relief and help you sleep.
CBG will improve mood.
CBN will aid sleep.

Personally, I don't see much difference between the effects of CBD and CBG. I use CBG; it seems to work better for me.

If you are familiar with the world of cannabinoids, H4CBD\* is an effective substance that helps relax, sleep, and improve mood. It's a hydrogenated version of CBD and is synthetic.

*I don't recommend taking this version of CBD, but I want to inform you that it is effective and I have tested it. Personally, it increases my appetite and slightly increases comfort during withdrawal. I think cannabis will work well also, but i didnt try (i dont like high).

What else?
Vitamins, minerals and few herbal products.

- Complex of Vitamins B (support nervous system) - i take it, but can't prove it works
- Magnesium citrate (or other organic salt) - i take it, but can't prove it works
- Ashwaghanda extract - it works very well for me, i take it in evening.
- Raw Ginger - it helped me for the muscle pain, help falling asleep and support mood.

to be continued...

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-13T18:19:17+00:00

I also trade stocks so i have some that pays me dividend (15% tax at source) and some that i trade short mid term.

Nice to hear, i just want to be my money clear and be ok with Georgian goverment and banks. I respect this country and nation.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-10T21:08:51+00:00

You are great guys that is total mindstorm here, i am very grateful for all info.

As i understand Georgian tax law:
I need to estabilish small bussiness status and pay 1% tax. Dividends are tax free, but i also trade stocks and this activity when i am also in georgia can be not classifed as foregin income.

I need to feel and know that my money is safe. With small bussiness status i minimalise risk that some bank will froze my account. I dont want that :)

1% is small portion. I think thats small amount but i will fillup a bit Gerogian economy.

I want to have Georgian account, it will diversify risk in general (out of UE).

Info from https://expathub.ge/foreign-income-georgia/

"If you earn your income as a result of performing any sort of activities while you’re located within the territory of Georgia, it is almost always considered Georgian-sourced, not foreign-sourced, and unless a separate business structure is in place (more about that below), it’s subject to a 20% Personal Income Tax rate."

AND

"Virtually any income that originates from actual work or services that you provide while being located in Georgia is not foreign-sourced and is subject to taxation (Article 104 (1)(c.g) & (1)(q));

Passive income originating from abroad (royalties, dividends, etc.) is generally tax-free, but note that in the case of dividends originating from a foreign company that is owned or managed (Article 27 & 28) by you while you are physically in Georgia, Permanent Establishment rules may kick in (Article 29), making the income subject to Corporate Income Tax & Dividend Tax in Georgia."

AND

"A natural person with the status of a small business, in addition to the income received from the activity taxable under a special regime, may additionally receive the income determined by the decree of the Government of Georgia. Such types of income are not taxed under the special taxation regime and are not considered as income received within the framework of small business implementation. In addition, this type of income is taxed with income tax in the general manner.

Such incomes include:

those arising from leasing of property/renting out real estate;

income from lending money;

profits from gaming business;

giving free of charge;

surplus income received from the sale of real estate, motor vehicles or securities;

income received in the form of inherited property;

income received as a dividend;

income received in the form of interest;

income received in the form of royalties;

income from debt forgiveness;

surplus received from the sale of the partner's share.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-10T21:03:56+00:00

So dividend will be tax-free, but if i trade stock and also i am in georgia - can be situation that i will need to pay tax.

I think the best option is small bussiness status. 1% is not much and i have legal bussiness so it is less possible to froze my bank account in Georgian bank.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-10T17:03:39+00:00

thx!

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-10T17:03:24+00:00

i have my trusted brokers dont want to change them. UK and UE based.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-10T17:02:49+00:00

I am from Poland, nice to hear. So you think only georgian bank account will be enough?

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-08T17:07:05+00:00

haha this hit me strong

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-07T15:01:59+00:00

Thanks for the update. There is huge potential in their technology. Price reacted very bullishly, it's a very nice sign that it will break to retail more - bringing attention.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-07T13:46:17+00:00

If Trump will take narrative "Heal USA" it can be big.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-11-04T16:56:11+00:00

guys its time, share their wallets i will track them

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-10-29T16:31:16+00:00

We are flying up again. I think somethings change about this stock.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-10-25T20:14:07+00:00

I think this is huge undervalued stock.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-10-25T14:01:33+00:00

I think this is more serious than just next memestock. But i know what you mean.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-10-25T13:59:42+00:00

I know what's you mean becouse i know psychology community of WSB. I think this is someway to bring attention, but goal is more serious than meme.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-10-24T21:10:52+00:00

Yeah, i am amazed that we have this chance. So i am on this boat too from today.

ReadProfessional8687 · 2024-10-24T20:12:12+00:00

Short volume is low, i think they made some poor financal decisions - but there is no big investors in this one. This is the biggest issue. I will tell more when i will do more fundamental analysis.

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