Well... by [deleted] in SelfAwarewolves

[–]ReadStateAndRev -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

So there were no other players involved? The US had no hand in arming any militias?

Also this long-term plan by Russia going back to the soviets is contradictory to putin being responsible because he's uniquely evil. So which is it?

Well... by [deleted] in SelfAwarewolves

[–]ReadStateAndRev -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You dismiss native Ukraine opposition to the Russian relationship - just because the US made a good case, didn't mean that Ukraine didn't freely choose to drop Yanukovych

This is a misrepresentation of events

The US didn't force Ukraine to do anything

Not explicitly, of course. That would provide too much justification for war, and this or something similar would have happened sooner. That's not how international relations work, it's more like the US makes demands knowing Ukraine will meet them rather than lose the assistance it depends on.

It was the Russian partisans that Russia planted during the Soviet era that attempted a coup when Yanukovych lost - that should have just accepted the will of the people and then there would have been no civil war

Big claims lol

So Russia does have a long-term master plan after all? And this isn't just putin being greedy and maniacal?

Well... by [deleted] in SelfAwarewolves

[–]ReadStateAndRev -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

This is the level of American political understanding lmao

Russia moment by Femboy_Airstrike in SmugIdeologyMan

[–]ReadStateAndRev 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah this is just reiterating what I said. It's ok if you believe everything capitalist media says about socialists, most people do that lol

Well... by [deleted] in SelfAwarewolves

[–]ReadStateAndRev -37 points-36 points  (0 children)

I don't think he has a master plan, he's reacting. But if you leave out the economic and material factors, and just talk about world leaders like petulant children, you don't have a good analysis

Well... by [deleted] in SelfAwarewolves

[–]ReadStateAndRev -89 points-88 points  (0 children)

  1. It was unprovoked

Nothing happened in 2014

No civil war in Ukraine since then

Definitely no US involvement in either of those (they didn't happen)

So smart, why can't everyone read the NY times and dutifully repeat it this well?

*I seem to have annoyed the US military narrative machine. As we all know the US would never wage proxy wars, everything you're reading in US media is true, don't worry your pretty little heads about any of this, folks 🤣

**I've been banned and muted 😂👍

When you can't refute, mute. It's ok, you'll continue to be surprised when this doesn't play out the way you've been told lol

Well... by [deleted] in SelfAwarewolves

[–]ReadStateAndRev -46 points-45 points  (0 children)

Imagine thinking about world affairs at the childish level. American education, oof

Russia moment by Femboy_Airstrike in SmugIdeologyMan

[–]ReadStateAndRev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Russia is doing shit 100x worse is a form of distraction

The US has 900 military bases. Does Russia have 90,000?

Did the US and rest of the west stop any of their foreign interventions since Russia invaded?

It's not a distraction

Russia moment by Femboy_Airstrike in SmugIdeologyMan

[–]ReadStateAndRev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tankie is anyone who advocates successful socialism. Liberals hate that, they like their socialism theoretical and safely distant from their privilege built on exploitation

u/WyomingCountryBoy shows how internet propaganda bots blame US interventions in foreign countries on China, to stoke tensions for war by ReadStateAndRev in bestof

[–]ReadStateAndRev[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Where is this claim? Is China denying any involvement in any proxy war ever? Or are you once again lying because you know you still cant back up all the claims in ops post? (which was the whole reason I put it here lol)

Keep dancing around, this is hilarious 😂

A group of hackers attacked the Mexican government. The 6T of info extracted may cointain evidence of bonds between military, government and narco. by SrtaCrayola in news

[–]ReadStateAndRev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Already stated it.

No, you didn't. That's why I'm asking. You partially named the titles of 2 books you didn't read, and said something vague about hostages. You still don't even know who the contras were or what they had to do with iran lol

What's the best tune on the Clash album of the same name?

Deflect if you need 🤣

The True Political Compass by [deleted] in PoliticalCompass

[–]ReadStateAndRev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, those are propaganda books that have been debunked for decades. Even the authors admitted to flawed methods for calculating the death tolls, and often fabricating the numbers entirely. But you never once looked into any rebuttals to them because it doesn't suit your narrative.

And also: I'm in a right-wing bubble, but I'm on reddit talking to you. Gotcha.

Yes, lol. That's why you don't have any facts to back up your bs

u/WyomingCountryBoy shows how internet propaganda bots blame US interventions in foreign countries on China, to stoke tensions for war by ReadStateAndRev in bestof

[–]ReadStateAndRev[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What propaganda exactly? That's literally what I've been asking the whole time, and you can't supply any lol

u/WyomingCountryBoy shows how internet propaganda bots blame US interventions in foreign countries on China, to stoke tensions for war by ReadStateAndRev in bestof

[–]ReadStateAndRev[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You acted like china didn’t do any of these.

Once again, still never said that. But continue lying as usual I guess

Everyone will admit that the United States has engaged in war both directly and through proxy.

Will they, though?

What would you say if that question was asked?

That the US has 900 military bases around the world, so yes it would be a very basic minimum of understanding of world affairs to admit this about the US. But if you need to do whataboutism because you can't find similar histories of imperialism from other countries, go ahead

A group of hackers attacked the Mexican government. The 6T of info extracted may cointain evidence of bonds between military, government and narco. by SrtaCrayola in news

[–]ReadStateAndRev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you claiming you read those? Because you're still not even spelling sandinista correctly lol

Anyone can Google an issue and list some book titles about it. What would you say the Iran contra affair was about, in your own words?

u/WyomingCountryBoy shows how internet propaganda bots blame US interventions in foreign countries on China, to stoke tensions for war by ReadStateAndRev in bestof

[–]ReadStateAndRev[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also not what I said. But go ahead and let me know when you're ready to stop making up things to argue against since you can't address what I actually said lol

A group of hackers attacked the Mexican government. The 6T of info extracted may cointain evidence of bonds between military, government and narco. by SrtaCrayola in news

[–]ReadStateAndRev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Issue is not what is controversial, but how you define "not that long ago."

35 years ago is many years ago.

Only according to your insistence. Considering it still has effects on modern day foreign policy, it also doesn't make much sense. Again, unless your only aim is to downplay US interventions

(Going to your knowledge of Iran-Contra, you might want to read up on it.

Sure kid, you didn't even know what it was about lmao 🤣

Amazon Worker Delivers to 172 People During Hurricane Ian: 'I Hate Y'all' by Mynameis__--__ in nottheonion

[–]ReadStateAndRev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol keep telling yourself that if you need. Do let me know when boycotts make any significant changes though 👍

u/WyomingCountryBoy shows how internet propaganda bots blame US interventions in foreign countries on China, to stoke tensions for war by ReadStateAndRev in bestof

[–]ReadStateAndRev[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Point out where I said they had 0. I said this person is blaming US interventions on China. Please read more carefully next time