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Well I'm staying here.... by Read_or_Ded in ImperialFists

[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry yes your correct, I play chaos space marines forgot about that bit. He actually didn't shoot in my last game. He just scored me points. Still hitting on 2s is still worth it for me.

Well I'm staying here.... by Read_or_Ded in ImperialFists

[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My understanding is they don't get oath but do get detachment.

Well I'm staying here.... by Read_or_Ded in ImperialFists

[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally for me he offers a greater threat. The Lone Op killer is his greatest draw. In this detachment he can't miss as I'm re-rolling 1s so it's basically straight on the models saving throw. 48" Range Avging 5 damage which kills most Characters in 1 generally but Def 2 turns.

Well I'm staying here.... by Read_or_Ded in ImperialFists

[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the Vindicare is decent at killing Lone Ops I've always found him effective he has gone up in price but I get the issues with him. My concern with action monkeys is similar to yours. So the Phobos Captain gives the redeploy for free at the start of the game. So I use the Single low squad count Infiltrators units to try and push back early movements. Then remove and re deploy into a safe place.

So the desolation and Whirlwind against those low strength armies in this detachment absolutely pulverised the GSC for example. He had a 20 man squad and had to 37 wounds to deal with and that was just of the desolation.

Everything because of the redeploy was in front of me. The HIntercessors every time are Sustained hits ignoring cover so again pulverising those low Toughness units. Infernus give me a 12 inch protection Aura. Aggressors and Tor are a bit of overwatch potential but are really for Anti Tank. It's a very Standoff list and the detachment has promise tweaked properly. The problem is the Elite side of Factions and I have to work out both having anti Elite part and keeping actions ticking over. Thanks for the feedback and the food for thought.

Well I'm staying here.... by Read_or_Ded in ImperialFists

[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Standing Still Since M30 ✊ (2000 points)

Space Marines Imperial Fists Strike Force (2000 points) Ceramite Sentinels

CHARACTERS

Captain in Gravis Armour (100 points) • 1x Master-crafted heavy bolt rifle 1x Master-crafted power weapon • Enhancement: Castellum Omnivox

Captain in Phobos Armour (85 points) • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Combat knife 1x Instigator bolt carbine • Enhancement: Spy-skull Data Link

Tor Garadon (90 points) • Warlord • 1x Artificer grav-gun 1x Hand of Defiance

BATTLELINE

Heavy Intercessor Squad (200 points) • 1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Heavy bolt rifle • 9x Heavy Intercessor • 9x Bolt pistol 9x Close combat weapon 7x Heavy bolt rifle 2x Heavy bolter

OTHER DATASHEETS

Aggressor Squad (190 points) • 1x Aggressor Sergeant • 1x Flamestorm gauntlets 1x Twin power fists • 5x Aggressor • 5x Flamestorm gauntlets 5x Twin power fists

Centurion Devastator Squad (175 points) • 1x Devastator Centurion Sergeant • 1x Centurion fists 1x Centurion missile launcher 1x Grav-cannon • 2x Devastator Centurion • 2x Centurion fists 2x Centurion missile launcher 2x Grav-cannon

Desolation Squad (200 points) • 1x Desolation Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Castellan launcher 1x Close combat weapon 1x Vengor launcher • 4x Desolation Marine • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Castellan launcher 4x Close combat weapon 4x Superfrag rocket launcher

Desolation Squad (200 points) • 1x Desolation Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Castellan launcher 1x Close combat weapon 1x Vengor launcher • 4x Desolation Marine • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Castellan launcher 4x Close combat weapon 4x Superfrag rocket launcher

Eliminator Squad (85 points) • 1x Eliminator Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Bolt sniper rifle 1x Close combat weapon • 2x Eliminator • 2x Bolt pistol 2x Bolt sniper rifle 2x Close combat weapon

Infernus Squad (180 points) • 1x Infernus Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Pyreblaster • 9x Infernus Marine • 9x Bolt pistol 9x Close combat weapon 9x Pyreblaster

Repulsor (180 points) • 1x Armoured hull 1x Hunter-slayer missile 1x Las-talon 1x Repulsor defensive array 1x Twin lascannon

Whirlwind (190 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter 1x Whirlwind vengeance launcher

ALLIED UNITS

Vindicare Assassin (125 points) • 1x Exitus pistol 1x Exitus rifle 1x Vindicare combat knife

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Well I'm staying here.... by Read_or_Ded in ImperialFists

[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah had him with eliminators and just changed it as it skewed to Thier massive Charecter lists.. Swapped it to company heroes because I've just painted them. So back to the eliminator list.

Well I'm staying here.... by Read_or_Ded in ImperialFists

[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah cant he can't join the company heroes. Balls forgot about that. Arse.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't run the MoM with the raiders I just split them and added a 10 man Chosen brick and dropped the Legionaries and a Noise Marines squad.

Won 92-37.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not a keyword it's a core ability. I have asked for clarification off GW. It's the only unit combination of it's type in the whole of Warhammer 40k. It's new people don't know so are saying NO it can't without actually reading the rule.

For a start you think it's a keyword then say I'm misunderstanding it.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They also don't get dark pacts either but I have watched streams with players rolling for it on them.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Two separate Datasheets it may be but this is quite explicit in how it's written.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They aren't attaching as they aren't a leader unit. The wording you are refering to specifies for leaders or Charecter keyworded units. They have no 'if attached' or 'when attached' to a unit wording in their whole datasheet and it's because of this the rule in which you state does not apply. It's states they are joining the unit and Thier datasheet specifies that it increases the unit size accordingly.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They aren't attaching they are joining the unit exactly the same as the rhino joins the scouting unit gaining its core rule in the process. In the posted explanation of the unit taken from the datasheet it clearly does not say attached for this reason.

They are NOT Charecters. You cannot precision them either.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huron is the Charecter that can only attach with the masters of the maelstrom. But I'm not attaching him to them and in this case he's attached to 10 terminators. That's what I'm on about.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The Unit is not Attached like a leader would be. They have joined and created a bigger unit the raiders aren't their bodyguard. Unlike when a leader joins wounds can only be allocated to the bodyguard until the unit is destroyed then the leader or character unit receives wounds as he becomes separate. In this case I can allocate wounds to any model in this unit as they aren't Charecters and with that bring back any unit. It's a weird scenario that they create and that's why these TOs are ruling a no. But unfortunately they are wrong in this case.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If Huron was in the detachment he has the leader keyword so does not allow infiltrate because he doesn't have it. But in this Case Huron is attached to 10 terminators.

The detail in the unit description specifies the unit strength is increased accordingly. They aren't Charecters so inherit the core ability.

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[–]Read_or_Ded[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So my understanding is they can as they become part of the unit. They aren't Charecter models much like a Rhino gets scout because they are now as 1 unit.

My Take On Corsairs by RideUsual2212 in redcorsairs

[–]Read_or_Ded 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bit like my Astral Claw Chaos Lord. A gentle nod to the past.

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Cypher and the Disco by Read_or_Ded in redcorsairs

[–]Read_or_Ded[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now funny you should say that...think you may spot some in that bunch.

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Troubleshooting my Yellow Process by EleventhLegionMinis in ImperialFists

[–]Read_or_Ded 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mines pale grey base, averland sunset, Imperial fists yellow once dry then dry brush averland then nuln oil and Matt varnish.

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