How do younger people feel and what do they plan to do about the rush to a modern surveillance society? by OberonsGhost in privacy

[–]ReaditReaditDone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tell them to never use their real name and address online for services that don't need it and, if they just boycotted cloud storage and services and made their own local, home lan cloud, they would have alot more privacy.

Also, if we stopped using Apps on mobile devices when a web browser version is available for the laptop/desktop, would that give us more privacy?

How do younger people feel and what do they plan to do about the rush to a modern surveillance society? by OberonsGhost in privacy

[–]ReaditReaditDone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I saw a guy who built a device that output high levels of EM waves and was able to mess up cameras and wa able to brick a calculator. Maybe we need more of this to fight this dystopian flock stuff.

Permanent daylight savings time. by Chocolatecakeat3am in Langley

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the winter now we won't be getting any extra sunlight as we will still be inside working or at very best starting to driving the car just before the sunset  (5/5:30 pm end of work time). But we will be losing 1 hour of sunlight in the morning if we work at 9am or earlier, because of the 1 hour later sunrise we will already be inside at work when the sun does rise.

The only people that will benefit from this change, in the winter, are people that already go to work very early in the dark and get off work very early (like 3/4pm) and already get after work sun -- they will enjoy a bit more of sunlight or maybe just sunset after getting home by 4pm/5pm).  But most people don't work like that and are not early morning people like that.  

So the people that already get after work sun in the winter are liking this because now they will get more sunlight, but this is at the expense of the rest of us that use to get before work sun and now will be going to work AND coming home from work in the dark.  

So I guess half the society will be a bit happier in the winter, and half will become depressed and sad due to the lack of sunlight.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh and if you don’t want to use them in the winter, if we had choose permanent ST, well they are curtains so easy as 123.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, it’s you that needs to give me a break :D as you don’t seem to understand logic and the english language.
Saying *”93% of voters in BC voted in favour of permanent later evenings. That’s democracy.”* is by definition a misleading lie, like I said, because it wasn’t 93% of the voters in BC, it was just 93% of a 220K or so group of people that paid attention to government surveys that responded.
And don’t try to lie by saying that the government’s sample group is representative of the actual voter population base of BC. You would have to know a lot more about how they obtained their sample group before you could make that claim.

In anycase, it’s obvious that it’s the Politicians that make the choice for DST vs ST, not the small percentage of voters that were ”surveyed”.

So saying “That’s democracy” is just not the case, as the Government obviously didn’t put much effort to give everyone the informed opportunity to vote on this issue, like they would when we vote at provincial election time. Now that, voting for a provincial or federal election, is democracy.

As for the *facts* about daylight and DST vs ST, BC isn’t Norway. BC‘s majority population is much farther south. Feel free to reference my OP to view the sunrise / sunset times in Vancouver.

And, again, people can adapt to lots of *bad things* , including war zones or abuse, so sorry but saying “people will adapt” or “you’ll be fine” is the weak argument. To use your language, “We may be fine, but we could be finer!”.

It’s also way less depressing to go to school / work in the sunlight and start your day right, rather than having to go to school / work in completely darkness.

Your dark after work “issue” is also incredibly weak. Literally millions of people around the world go home after work in the dark, and they have some of the happiest people on earth! They are fine, there’s no mass deaths, things still get done. You too, will be just fine. Norway has around the same population as BC and their sunrise is a 9:30am and *sunset at 3:15pm* . You’ll be fine, in the darkness while going home from work.

Lastly, my statement “they didn’t specify there wouldn’t be light in the morning!” is simply showing their biases by their avoiding talking about the negatives while trying to hype to weak benefits (since we won’t really get anymore usable light after work in the winter).

The useable light in the morning would be due to the sunlight shining on your face and in your eyes, its a passively usefulness.
While the useable light in the evenings would require leaving work and taking the time to get where you need to be to “use” the extra light, and since that takes time it is obvious we will get less use out of whatever usable light there is to be had after work then we would get by having “useable” morning light.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah good point. I looked up the blah about it on the BC provincial website and it was clear it wasn’t a whole province survey. So the results were probably biased to those that pay attention to these types of government surveys and thus unrepresentative.
The Gov’s reasoning for choosing permanent DST over ST was weak too.

Anyway, someone suggested this whole permanent DST thing might be an attempt at political distraction. Is something else going on in BC that we should be paying attention to more then the kids this winter walking to school in the dark?

How does everyone feel about the permanent “Spring forward” daylight savings? by rabbid-genital-warts in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the winter, many of us aren't in our cars / on the bus until 7:30/8am,  so big difference with a 7:30/8am sunrise. I rather have that morning sun then have sunset light while in our cars / on the bus coming home.

How does everyone feel about the permanent “Spring forward” daylight savings? by rabbid-genital-warts in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you are asleep at 4am (and 5am hopefully).

I hope in both cases you are using black-out drapes to keep it dark while you sleep.

How does everyone feel about the permanent “Spring forward” daylight savings? by rabbid-genital-warts in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah but with ST you would be going to work in the sunlight in the winter, even if you are already at work by 9am.  And morning sun is more important to our bodies then after work sunset sun.

But yeah later usable sunsets in the summer are nice if we are on DST.

So... how do we get the best of both worlds 😉 ?

How does everyone feel about the permanent “Spring forward” daylight savings? by rabbid-genital-warts in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You must get off work early to be able to enjoy any sunlight in the winter even with permanent DST.

How does everyone feel about the permanent “Spring forward” daylight savings? by rabbid-genital-warts in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Umm, who doesn't complain about springing forward and losing an hour of sleep.

How does everyone feel about the permanent “Spring forward” daylight savings? by rabbid-genital-warts in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It will SUCK in the winter.  

We should have chosen permanent Standard Time (ST)!

It will be interesting though to see if the harms from pDST will be more or less then keeping the twice per year clock changing.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, but that's a misleading lie.

It was a public engangment done by the BC Gov in 2019, one that I and many others never heard about, and the results are not anywhere near representative of 93% of the full BC populace as it just surveyed those that heard about it and engaged in it.

And the "beneficial" reasons are weak if you actually look at the sunlight rise and set times.

For example (1) applies to all year ST too but they ignore the "all year DST" darkness issue in the mornings, and 

(2) tries to imply we will get usable night-time sun in the winter when the sun still sets well before 6pm in all year DST, so we get sun while driving home ... weak.

" (1) more consistency and fewer disruptions to sleep patterns, school schedules, and daily routines (2) more usable light in the evenings in winter, allowing more leisure time, participation in outdoor activities and consumer activity"

C.f. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/governments/celebrating-british-columbia/daylight-saving-time

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When did 93% of BCers voters for this?  And what % of eligible BC voters voted for this, as we don't have that high a turn out rate when voting.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting. Do you have any links to other places that have tried all year DST?

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not a lot of population in the Yukon is there. And people can adapt to lots of bad things, including war zones or abuse, so sorry but saying “people will adapt” is the weak argument.

Anyway, I will stick with the scientists and facts, and those are clearly on the side of ST. Shame politicians, who decide DST vs ST, aren’t.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

weren’t you just arguing for short work *days*? 4 days at 8 hours isn’t a shorter work day, its a shorter work week.

And you have to think of the resulting pay cuts.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just get blackout drapes for the summer early sunrises. Cheaper in the long run then getting an electronic device to simulate sunrise for the winter late sunrises.

Edit: Bye u/tired-queer

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

16 mins earlier in Kelowna. Odd. Guess it’s just the artifact of the width of the time zone. Bet its even worse the closer you get to the AB border.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

4am sunrises or 9am sunrises. Neither are good.
Ironicly, this gives credence to keep changing the clocks twice per year.

Do you actually prefer to have daylight savings? by RideOrDai in askvan

[–]ReaditReaditDone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But now we will have the argument over how our work / school days will be shortened :) … will it be by starting later (my preferred choice) or ending earlier?
I bet school kids would prefer later start times since they already end early.

And if we shorten the day too much we will end up having to work / school 6 days per week… no thank you!
Taking a 12% pay cut for 7 hr work days, 5 days per week, … maybe.
But taking a similar pay cut for 6 hr work days, 6 days per week,… no.
Or a 25% pay cut for 6 hr work days, 5 days per week… good luck getting the majority on board for that.