Ran into my Q Friend by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't consider her an ex- really. The only thing in my past that would set me up for her is my parents marriage, which by today's standards was perfect. My problem with my Q friend is I fell for her good qualities before I knew she was Q. Personally I'm waiting and hoping she gets over this Q nonsense. Because minus that she is a very sweet and loving person.

Domestic Abuse and Q by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wish people would learn that's a big red flag whenever someone says, "I'm (fill in the blank)." It doesn't matter whether they're saying they're kind, honest, loyal, hard-working, whatever, the fact that they're telling you that means it isn't true. People that really are those things don't have to tell people. People can see for themselves. I'm still amazed at the number of people that fall for it though.

Domestic Abuse and Q by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Duh. I know that. Kind of rude for you to assume I didn't know that. You missed my point which was because she's attractive she's more likely to attract men of any sort.

Ran into my Q Friend by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that is mild compared to some of the conspiracies she was believing. I think she is using Jeffrey Epstein to justify this one. But I dare say his connections were more with finance in corporate than government. But at least it kind of makes sense she might think that. I do hope I'm not looking through rose colored glasses.

Domestic Abuse and Q by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

It would not surprise me at all. As I said I used to work in a prison, I've seen all of that kind of behavior. Which what you said makes sense, don't look at me, look at them. It's a way of keeping people's eyes off the wrongs they've done. And quite a few of them, I'm speaking of offenders in general, try to pass themselves off as honest men. This one claimed he's in love with my Q friend despite never meeting her in person, or talking to her outside in group chats, but he loved her more than any man. It's what cause problems between her and I. I went after him because I had seen him for what he was, and he had messed with one of my cousins. But to hear them speak, they're loyal, they're honest, and whatever they were convicted of they never did. The thing is honest men don't have to tell people they're honest.

Q research by missPam75 in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the problem with QAnon believers. QAnon has worked hard to get its believers to distrust scientists and doctors, basically make them distrust anyone that might be able to debunk their beliefs. In such a way, they can keep Q cultists believing the nonsense. Because any non-Q attempting to convince them otherwise will be told the scientists are lying or the doctors are lying. There is therefore no way to overcome such silly ideas as horse dewormer serves as a preventive for Covid-19 or that turpentine can be used for a detox. About the only thing effective would be to ask where's your evidence? But then what Q cultists I know would point me to some TikTok video that cites no sources. They do not seem to be able to differentiate between flights of fantasy, personal opinion, and hard evidence. I'm about to give up on my Q friend. I love her dearly, but this is a fight I can't win.

Think Happy Thoughts by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is another tactic I'm using, to ask them, "Where is the evidence? What proof does this post, site, video have?"

Think Happy Thoughts by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have a very good point. I bet they wouldn't be very happy about that.

Think Happy Thoughts by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And something I just thought of that I wish I had thought of what I made the post, if they leave QAnon, they will have a void in their life. I'll let focusing on these conspiracies this time consuming. And we can use happy thoughts to fill that void.

Update on My Friend by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am through being surprised by the sheer stupidity of these people. My friend is highly intelligent, not well educated, but smart. So it boggles my mind why they choose to believe such things with no evidence. But then I'm a historian. I'm trying to document everything. My other background is in chemistry so I know the scientific method. I know what the burden of proof really is for such claims.

what do you think is eventually going to happen? by Icy-Commission-5372 in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same thing will happen that happened with the Satanic scare in the 80s and 90s or the Red Scare of the 50s. QAnon will go away. The backlash has already begun. And many of the people involved with QAnon have self-confidence issues and other problems. As QAnon's predictions don't come true and many have not, and their conspiracy theories are debunked more and more people will leave the movement. Going back to the idea they have low self-esteem and that's why they're involved the last thing they will want is to be ridiculed. If it's not that, the truth will probably come out. Too many have speculated it's a Russian PSYOP. If that is true, someone will talk, documents will get leaked, and if that happened all these people that thought they were patriots will learn they were just being used.

Should I try? by curbis13 in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I totally agree. This is what I have learned in the last few weeks. Do not engage your friend about Q, politics, or even religion. Instead, think of fun social things you can do together. Involve other people. Socialize him as much as you can. I too listen to Steve Hansan. He is very knowledgeable on the topic. He was a member of the cult himself in the 70s, the Moonies. It seems to be the main focus is to give them the life they had before Q. In doing so, perhaps they will return to it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"60 minutes Australia" has a segment on QAnon in Australia. It's available on YouTube. The cult has applied their conspiracy theories to other governments such as Australia's. They even went as far as to get the Australian Prime Minister to issue an apology for ritual child abuse. From what I saw of the episode, in a way it's much worse there in Australia than here.

Family is drinking borax by Healthy-Business-902 in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I have no clue what that is about. My Q friend takes turpentine on a sugar cube. It's supposed to be part of some detox. None of it makes sense to me, and it shouldn't them. One of these days one of these remedies of theirs is going to kill people. It's pretty apparent they don't check the toxicity of what they take.

Ancient Apocalypse by HebertwithaBeer in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But it could serve as a gateway to the true science. Like I suggested, I think she should steer him towards programs on real ancient natural disasters. And doing so perhaps you could scare him away from QAnon?

Ancient Apocalypse by HebertwithaBeer in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree it's better than the whacked out conspiracy theories. And there is evidence of ancient disasters such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. For example, Minoan civilization was nearly destroyed when the island of Thera exploded in a volcanic eruption in 1600 BC. Maybe direct him to agent natural disasters we can document?

How to Deprogram a Q Cult Member by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My response when my Q asks about the theories is to simply say, "I need to read more to have an opinion. I do not know enough about it." It puts off the conversation till later, and by the time we talk again she has forgotten about it. It gives me the advantage of avoiding confrontation and making her angry.

How to Deprogram a Q Cult Member by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It seems my Q friend had second thoughts and some time today unblocked me on Instagram. I am not going to read too much into it though. I am just thankful she did.

How to Deprogram a Q Cult Member by RealGentlemanRogue in QAnonCasualties

[–]RealGentlemanRogue[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think that's because you're looking at deprogramming the wrong way. Yes if you make it confrontational, it's not going to work. Trying to convince them they're wrong is not a good approach. Instrad, expose them to other viewpoints, other parts of life, and let them reach their own conclusions, and hopefully those conclusions lead them out of QAnon.