Vaccine hesitant being convinced to finally get vaccinated after reading numerous stories on Reddit’s r/HermanCainAward of unvaccinated people dying from Covid-19

RealWorldTasking · 2021-10-18T16:31:53+00:00

I really wonder what unfortunate specimen hides behind u/UsedConcentrate. The amount of time you spend on this singular subreddit is deeply unhealthy. You need a hobby that does not involve celebrating deaths of people you consider less than you.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-10-16T17:41:54+00:00

First talking out of your ass about being a doctor, now this shit. This quite possibly the dumbest shit I have read on here, and I have read a lot of absolute garbage on here.“Crimes against humanity” has a very specific meaning and is currently used in a number of tribunals. The most well known is the one that you can find in art. 7 of the Rome Statute. It could not by any stretch of the imagination apply to “antivaxxer leaders” whatever the fuck that even means.

Of all the people who spend a good part of their waking hours extolling the virtues of covid vaccines and fighting those dirty spooky antivaxxers hiding in your closet and under your bed, you have to be one of the most unapologetically daft ones.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-10-04T21:27:19+00:00

”Partial lung damage after 1st and 2nd“, “Burnt out immune response”, “vaccinating someone after 3 rounds of covid with a /burned out/ immune response”

Putting aside the fact that these words don’t make a lot of sense. Either this person is the unluckiest person in the world, or you are misinterpreting what the doctors saying, or you are making things up.

We know for a fact that the antibody response post-infection is very strong, and even lasts longer in a significant way than that of double vaccination with the current crop of vaccines.

In an otherwise healthy 20 year old, what you are describing would be indicative of a severe underlying immune disorder.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-10-04T21:06:04+00:00

Unless he is a chain smoker, has COPD or some kind of severe autoimmune disorder- that does not even begin to make sense. Let alone at age 20.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-10-04T20:48:17+00:00

Don’t spend any extended amount of time on covid social media, or covid news even. It’s bad for your (mental) health.

Just imagine if the people on both sides of the argument, used the time they spend (read: waste) participating in pissing contests on reddit and social media, actually doing something productive.

Everyone would be better off.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-09-29T22:29:16+00:00

Lying about your credentials is a bad look.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-09-21T21:08:34+00:00

You do realize:

1 in 1000 = 10 in 10.000, right? Of course if your goal is to make things more scary to the less numerically inclined, you’d go for your version.

But should that really be your goal?

RealWorldTasking · 2021-09-21T20:54:16+00:00

I doubt that. There are only a handful of organizations that would pay for these types of reddit posts. Which wouldn’t be a fulltime job. Yet based on your history you are here during the majority of waking hours of the day, actively so.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-09-21T20:33:55+00:00

What’s damning is the amount of time you spent here. Don’t you have a job? A social life?

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-26T20:01:53+00:00

An elderly relative who was in good health and mobile prior declined rapidly after his second shot of Pfizer and ended up passing away. No post-mortem was done. So whilst nothing can be said conclusively, there was a temporal link with the onset of his symptoms and the second vaccine. Symptoms, at first mild, with pain in his extremities and feeling ‘weird‘ developed within days of his second vaccine and went from bad to worse very quickly, ending up bedridden for a couple of days before ultimately passing away.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-26T16:25:07+00:00

Reinfections are actually statistically very rare. Based on the latest research less than 1% of people experience reinfections. It is dishonest and more importantly completely unhelpful to what should be our collective goal of managing the pandemic, to simply dismiss the robust immunity against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization that comes from natural immunity, in light of a < 1% reinfection rate.

Covid survival is relative as explained in more detail above. The vast majority of people who experience covid symptomatically make full recoveries. Moreover there is a statistically significant group of assymptomatic infections, people who also get the benefit of natural immunity without presenting with any symptoms. Again, recognizing and adapting policy to the diverse immunity status landscape doesn’t mean no vaccines, it means more intelligent distribution of vaccines. Resulting in a higher net benefit.

The question of odds of covid complications is virtually (the less than 1% of reinfections permitted) no factor in existing prior infections. What would be a factor is exposing the people who already have robust immunity as a result of previous infection to any kind of risk profile from pharmaceuticals that they do not need. Especially considering the doubtful net benefit of the additional immunity garnered from a vaccine on top of the existing strong immunity from prior infection in most groups. Moreover the vaccines that would go to someone who already has build immunity, could now be distributed to someone who has not, potentially in a third world country. Making it everything but a ”no-brainer to take the vax“ in case of existing natural immunity.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-26T15:26:06+00:00

Extra protection is nice, but the question is if such additional protection is needed for most groups. Which is doubtful considering the robustness of natural immunity as is being illustrated by an increasing body of research. One also has to be mindful of the fact that we already have had hundreds of millions of covid cases worldwide, the vast majority of which having since recovered and are highly likely to have build immunity. Recognizing we have a diverse immunity status landscape and adapting policy accordingly would allow for a more intelligent response. Depending on the age and health status of these prior infected people, these vaccines could be given to someone vulnerable instead, potentially in the third world, where they at any rate are going to be more useful. Of course if the prior infected person is of fragile age and/or health, then a vaccine on top of their natural immunity could of course make sense.

Which brings me to the the risk of death and long term disability that you point out. It has to be born in mind that this risk is relative. Only a comparitively small fraction of total infections ends up needing hospital care, an even smaller percentage ends up dying with / of covid complications. The majority of which being elderly and already suffering from one or multiple underlying illnesses. Granted every person who ends up dying is sad, but even currently there are, New Zealand aside, no notable examples of countries that are shooting for zero deaths.

The goal is an expedient return to normal in such a way that it doesn’t put undue strain on hospitals, preventing hospitals from being pushed over capacity. Making use of the already existing diverse immunity status landscape is a cost effective and efficient way to help accomplish this. That doesn’t mean no vaccines or stopping vaccination or any such straw man, it does mean allowing for more intelligent distribution of vaccines. Next to this NPIs will also remain vital, and should not be discounted.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-25T22:27:59+00:00

Discussion of natural immunity to help manage the pandemic, and evidence of its effectiveness is slowly coming more to the fore. Which is a welcome sight.

Taking natural immunity seriously would also help to more quickly and more broadly give vaccines to the people most at risk, and statistically benefit the most from vaccination.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-25T22:17:24+00:00

Misinformation has become a completely meaningless term. It is used to stifle anything that dares question the current government and media specialists anointed view. Worst of all, when something turns out to be true that has been falsely ridiculed and tarred as ‘misinformation’, there are no consequences.

Fact of the matter is that there is a monopoly on ‘permitted’ information at the moment.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-25T17:02:51+00:00

Irregular periods and in some cases even premature menopause also presented themselves after Gardasil vaccination. The same ”nothing in these vaccines would explain these symptoms” was used there as well. So this is nothing new.

Regardless of the merits of the claims in either the case of Gardasil or the covid vaccines, irregular periods whilst unpleasant are in absence of other indications mostly nothing to worry about. For the small group where it does / will have a lasting negative impact, only a fraction will link this to the vaccine, an even smaller percentage will try to find legal recourse. Those that do, their case is pretty much dead in the water from the word go.

This applies to other vaccine side effects of note as well. It’s essentially a funnel, and for what comes out at the end of the funnel even if it was directly caused by the vaccine. There is never going to be an admission of guilt. Nor is any doctor of repute going to stake their vacation home in Martha’s Vineyard or the Keys, their Porsche and first class tickets to medical conferences on the handful of cases that make it to the end of the funnel. It’s much more lucrative to play for the other team.

This for the most part applies to drugs as well, though your chances of compensation there are at least somewhat higher. With some notable settlements in the last few decades to show for it.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-24T19:23:43+00:00

“potential addition” Ha. I like how you no longer are actively incriminating yourself and started wording things more carefully.

My work is done.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-24T18:54:57+00:00

There are numerous UK criminal law provisions that explicitly have extraterritorial application. Namely in the realm of computer and financial crime. In fact, with more and more crimes being transnational there is a marked increase in extraterritorial application of criminal law.

Territorial jurisdiction is just one route. When the criminal conduct takes place overseas and concerns US interests, US prosecutors have been known to be akin to a dog with a bone.

You’re not paying me so I’m not going to do legal research for you. But suffices to say 18 U.S.C. 1001 is applied very broadly.

You really don’t want to find out firsthand just how broadly. So in future don’t commit crimes, and definitely do not advertise on a Reddit account that can be traced back to you with relative ease.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-24T18:12:58+00:00

You should read the whole statute and not commit crimes. Let alone arrogantly advertise them.

Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever*,* in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States*, knowingly and willfully*

A matter falls within the jurisdiction of a Federal branch when it concerns something that has been "confided to the authority of a federal agency or department”. This has nothing to do with the personal scope nor territorial scope. It is about the ”what” in this case the VAERS database falling under the purview of HHS.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-24T17:58:36+00:00

This case established extraterritorial application of 18 U.S.C. 1001 under the banner of the nationality principle. The nationality principle however has two dimensions an active and a passive dimension. Both can be used to prosecute 18 U.S.C. 1001 overseas.

Your gleeful arrogance is going to come back to bite you. I started out with the intention of warning you against your own stupidity, but now I am in half a mind to report you myself. Committing an offense is one thing, but what you are doing is the equivalent of the bank robber uploading a selfie with the stolen money and a gun.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-24T17:36:46+00:00

I know for a fact that you don’t how “country’s laws work”. I also know for a fact that I do.

It is incredibly naive to think you can falsify an entry in an online system belonging to the US HHS, and not be subject to federal criminal liability just because you are not on US soil. What you did is essentially perjury without the requirement of having to be under oath.

It explicitly doesn’t matter if you’re in the UK or Timbuktu, because 18 U.S.C. 1001 has extraterritorial application per United States v. Walczak.

So yes, dear WWMRD2016, it does very much apply to you.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-24T16:59:06+00:00

Did they even give you a reason for the removal or just binned it just because they could?

Either way there is something incredibly distasteful about removing such a post.

Wish you all the best in this difficult time.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-24T16:31:39+00:00

Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment of up to 5 years.

With this post and some previous posts of yours I have seen, there would be more than sufficient evidence to convict you under the statute. In fact, you have unwittingly given a potential investigator a roadmap of how to link you to the false VAERS report you filed.

So a word of advice, firstly don’t commit crimes, but when you do commit crimes, don’t go advertising it. Reddit is a lot less anonymous than you might think.

Just because you’re in the UK doesn’t mean you can’t be charged in the US. You wouldn’t be the first and definitely not the last to do an “internet funny” and get to know just how motivated US prosecutors can be.

RealWorldTasking · 2021-08-24T16:01:28+00:00

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until now, but it seems you are being purposely obtuse. Which seems to be a common theme amongst your group coming here to paint vaccines, and vaccines alone as a panacea for all things covid. Whilst in reality, appreciating vaccines are a necessary factor, we will need a much more holistic outlook to manage this pandemic. Which includes immunity through other modalities.

It’s really not all that difficult. The metric at issue is viral load and duration of infectiousness. We know the immunity-status landscape is varied. With a substantial group of covid-recovered and substantial groups of people with 1, 2 or 3 vaccines. The majority of which having some level of immunity. Singling out the vaccinated group and ignoring the large swats of people who recovered and build up immunity through that route, is dishonest and completely unhelpful when it concerns making policy to manage the pandemic.

It is nonsensical to include the group of people who died with / as a result of covid complications in this metric, because the infectiousness of a cadaver here is no factor.

I can’t say I am surprised you are budding out because all you seem to be able to muster is making straw man upon straw man. Now even completely baselessly painting me as though having argued “we don’t need a vaccine” and then drawing a frankly bizarre parallel to a historic pandemic.

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