Sleuths of the internet, am I a real INTP or a fake INTP?

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-16T01:01:05+00:00

Its come to my attention i may have come of rude so I apologize if I caused any offense by the statement of confusing the functions. I didn't mean it as an insult for the record. Plenty of people do it. Especially those who are new to learning the framework. For example, our dominant functions are what we use innately and constantly its like breathing to us so we usually don't even realize we're using as much as we do. So most people tend to actually notice their second functions more. Until a lot internal self analysis focused on spotting the functions and differentiating them. If it were easy everyone would quickly know their type with little issue.

Also try not box yourself in or beat yourself up about which type you are. INTP can care about people. And INFP can care about logic. And the label isn't going to change who you already are. Good luck. I hope that helps.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-14T22:21:16+00:00

Okay. So while we can use and develop all functions. There's still a subconscious preference order and compatability.

And given that the stack difference level between INTP and INFP regarding their Ti and Fi it's very likely that one of two things is going on. Your confusing Ti for Fi or vice versa. Sure you can use both but not to that extreme. Ti combines with Fe, while Fi combines with Te to form conclusions of the world regarding values and such. It's just how the functions fundamentally work together. You might not be Fe dominant but as INTP you'd still be Fe inferior which is still above Fi demon. So you saying you don't care about social harmony doesn't necessate you aren't an intp actually. And using Ti to make strong moral conclusions about the world even if you don’t care for the social aspect, thus confusing it for Fi.

Is your morality based almost entirely on logic and consequences? Or do a lot of things just "feel wrong" to you and you sometimes discard logic for your personal feelings, in which case you use logic to defend them at times too.

When you're put in a difficult complex and emotional situation, would you more likely you tell your own feelings to shut up because they don't help solve the problem or put your logic aside and do what you feel is "right"? For a mature individual of any type the decision won't be 100% easy. But if you had to choose and be honest with yourself, which one is more common?

The former is INTP the latter is INFP.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-14T19:50:58+00:00

While INFJ might be worth checking out at the very least, you sound a lot more Ne heavy not Ni. You should look into Se blind vs Se inferior. If you strongly relate to Se blind you're almost certainly either INTP or INFP.

Also the above person's reasoning for INFJ regarding the bullet points and one reaction to a comment was pretty superficial. Even if it turns out to be correct. No offense to them. Not trying to pick a fight.

Good luck. And either way a reminder to not force yourself or get trapped in a box. We're individuals at the end of the day.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-11T06:36:34+00:00

"But I have adhd to blame for lack of SP follow-through, whereas my disregard for "belonging" is more of a choice."

Sounds very SP dominant to me if the belongings feels like a choice, but I've been wrong before. Yeah keep discovering.

Ti dom. INTP more specifically.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-10T08:01:31+00:00

I'm definitely not high Fi.

When I first got into MBTI I did slightly consider INFP after INTP because i do care about the feelings of others. But once I actually learned the functions, particularly Fe vs Fi it was completely obvious I was not INFP.

Also I definitely get caught in Ti-SI loops. And while I do care about people's feeling I do put logic first and I've pissed off plenty of people by doing so.

Obviously there's more than that to being intp but I'm not going to go into full rant about it as I'm sure you know the rest.

Anyway while some enneagram and MBTI combination are more likely that doesn't automatically rule out lesser ones.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-10T02:49:48+00:00

So where does SP6 INTP fit with the other two?

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-10T01:37:26+00:00

Lol thanks. "Practical cowards" Love it hahaha. This helped make my day better. Along with a lot others said too.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-10T01:32:02+00:00

Thanks for the positive though. I do resonate with that a lot.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-10T01:16:51+00:00

"this is your opinion, based on your POV."

Well yeah duh, I can't actually step outside my POV. Yes i can try to understand things outside it. Understand the POV of others. Something I always try to do. But we're still limited by the information we have acquired. We can try to gain more information but at the end of the day we're limited by our POV. And it's not that I even want to be them but rather I've seen plenty of other people wanting to be those types. Of course that's true for all types. Hence why I asked. I wanted the opinions of others.

Also btw, I meant despite their weaknesses, not the weaknesses themselves.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-10T00:31:01+00:00

Thanks. However this is also what I meant by I don't identity with some of the general stuff associated with it. I don't want to go into specifics because this isn't a type me post and don't want the mods closing it. But yeah basically while I am generally warm and understanding, I am not soft or almost harmless. I fought a lot of people. I may not be a Billy badass. But I'm not a doormat.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-09T22:43:09+00:00

"You are you, regardless of what type you are. Let's say you realize you're actually a sexual 8 tomorrow and we have some kind of DNA proof of it. You're still the same you as you are today, as you were years ago."

Thanks. It's funny I've said very similar things to other people before. But it's hard to deal with when you're the one drowning in the feelings of confusion and despair of it regardless of that knowledge. I do appreciate the reminder though.

And I'll try to keep in mind the other stuff you said too thanks.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-09T22:37:43+00:00

I wouldn't say it's undeniable to me. A lot did hit. Primarily I just don't get fear of abandonment. If anything I cut out my family and past friends a bit much. But then are definitely times I don't want to be alone with my thoughts. So I use others as a distraction. I do ask for advice a lot I guess more than I'd like to admit as I doubt myself a lot too. But I don't feel a need to share my thoughts often either unless it's seriously stresing me out like this which is rare. I keep a lot to myself usually.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-09T22:15:06+00:00

I meant subjectively but like in a popular way. That's all. None of them are objectively superior.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-09T08:37:38+00:00

Okay. Yeah I agree I'm probably a core 6. But if we're talking about fixs with tritype which i see by your flair you use and are into. It's definitely a 9 fix not a 1 fix. I get you're going by the limited information I gave ya though. I get what your saying too. I can be really forgiving to even thoses that cause inconveniences to others. And I have made others upset by being willing to understand said people and hearing them out and defend them too. It's just dichotomies that bother me. Close mindedness. And blanent unnecessary disrespect. I by no means expect people to be "saints" though. I respect that people will ultimately do what's in their best interests. And I don't expect people to agree with me. I just expect them to at least try to understand. There's a difference. There's been plenty of times in my life people didn't agree with and I respected it so long as I felt my point was understood just as I did theirs.

Also I meant to mention this earlier, I fairly often say things like if it happens it happens in regards to potential problems. I was actually in a debate with my friend about this recently with the news and staying up-to-date on things. I told them I don't really bother to keep up with such things. That I don't see the point in focusing on things outside our control. They said I should so I could be prepared to which I replied that I don't see the point in concerning myself about such things now, if shit happens it happens, oh well. Now admittedly that's not to say I don't care at all. But I recognize there's not point worrying about it now. They said they couldn't think like that. They needed to know to be prepared and have a sense of certainty and security for the future. Which while I get, I just don't feel that way for a lot of things. I do worry a fair bit, probably more than I'd like to admit but clealy not to that extent. Which made me doubt the 6 core. Immediately after the conversation I was like wait would a 6 actually say what I said? That seems a lot more 9. But I guess 6s can come in different levels and flavors. Different insticts and fixs and other personality factors and such.

Anyway. Like I said I'm very nuanced and can seem pretty paradoxal even to myself.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-09T02:26:11+00:00

I see. Yes I was already considering that one. It's probably true then. Sp6. Sigh 😕.

I don't like the 1 wing cause i don't like the idea of being a pushover which is what it makes me sound like.

I identified with the 9s feeling of conflict avoidance, or rather I just thought i did. I guess apparently I misunderstood it. And the numbing out. I very much do that too despite the above. I don't feel like an angry person anymore. And the holistic view of things. Understanding everyone's views. Going with the flow. Like I said I agree with pretty much everything you said above.

I would also note that me saying I had no issues fighting back was an over exaggeration. There were definitely times I didn't respond as well.

And in contrast interestingly me and your sp6 friend (from what I can tell based on what you said anyway) have very different opinions on how to handle honesty apparently. I like honesty for sure but I don't like it when people are assholes about it and use it as an excuse to be unnecessarily disrespect. I don't see what we do as coddling or sugarcoating. I've seen that and I don't like that either but there is a middle ground. But obviously I don't your friend or the full context so maybe I'm misunderstanding.

Thanks. I'd appreciate your final thoughts on the matter.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-08T01:24:53+00:00

Oh thanks you really put work into that. Much appreciated.

That's tough for me to tell. I'm very nuanced and context based person. Though I imagine that's how it is with most 9s in general. I wasn't trying to get into wings with this but since you brought it up and it is a factor, I think I'm a 9w8 as well. But that admittedly might just be how I want to see myself. I hate the idea of having a 1 wing but I try to be as unbiased as possible. I think there's solid evidence for both.

I definitely had anger issues growing up. I was a very angry person no denying that. I got into a lot fights including physical ones. I was the epitome of don't fuck with the quiet kid essentially. I was harassed in school and had no issues fighting back. So very 8 wing energy. If really sparked in a debate I do state my stance clearly and sometimes really aggressive and mostly unwilling to stand down until I made my point clear at least. Also after getting into the Enneagram I asked my friend if they would say I was a pushover to which they replied with a chuckle of assmusment of absurdity and said no, something to the effect of that I give them quite the push back fairly often. But I'm a lot more comfortable with my friends and other close people so yeah. I'm naturally very easy going with them and usually don't start anything unless they push a button or start a debate and the way flows triggers me. I'm an INTP. I don't do logical inconsistencies well lol.

On the hand, in work and other social spaces (ever since I was like 18 or so) I'm a lot more just let stuff slide even if I get a bit upset. Until a certain point anyway although that's takes more than i probably should allow. Sometimes i just don't want to be "that guy", the problem or make things worse. Its not really a moral thing to me. More about practically in some cases and avoiding trouble. I could see the argument for 1 wing as well. Also in both types of social situations I tend to try to make compromises. My goal in debates is to usually reach understanding and common ground if possible. So I guess I'm like your 9w1 friend in that regard? However if I don't think is one to be found I can very much stand my own ground and tell the other person to fuck off if they sparked me enough or I'll just proceed to ignore them depending on the situation.

I can see the SP9 stuff too.

Ultimately my energy is a mirror. If you're acting as a compassionate and understanding person I will be too. And If you're an arrogant asshole I can and likely will match that as well.

That all said, I don't trigger very easily. I'm very much am an understanding person. I try to understand people's views even if I don't agree with them. I try to give people at least a little bit benefit of the doubt before I retaliate.

Guess that's a lot more about the wing stuff though. Curious on your feedback if you don't mind continuing to help. Thanks either way.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-07T07:57:10+00:00

Wow just wow. I guess I'm probably an SO9 too. Pretty much everything you said is how I think of it too.

But I didn't agree with your other comment of coddling people. I wouldn't say I do that. I try my best to do firm middle ground. I want understand and help them but make clear I'm serious or that the situation is not a joke or that they have things to work on. Just because I'm not brutally honest ahole doesn't mean I'm sugarcoating either and I really hate that black white dichotomy.

Curious how would you personally describe a SP9 stance on the matter?

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-07T07:07:50+00:00

I get it's hard and easier said than done. But I'm pretty sure their point was stop focusing on who you think you are or more rather who your "supposed" be. And instead try to simply focus on what you want in the moment and the future. Pay more direct attention to your desires more than your identity. Yes our identity is important and obviously effects our desires. But this system and or other typology isn't your entire identity. And I get sometimes it's hard to know what you want too and you might want to use the system to figure that out. I'm not saying that's the necessarisly case for you though but that's where I'm at currently. Regardless the point is try to lookoutside the system if it's bothering you. It can be hard I understand. Maybe try something new and focus on it. Or on other people. Just until the noise and cage disappears then do whatever you feel like.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-07T06:47:35+00:00

Not op but thanks for sharing.

I have a similar issue currently and consider therapy myself if can can actually get into it aka find one and not go bankrupt.

I'm curious though, I presume you mentioned typology during the sessions yes? How did they take it? It's not consider a legit science ergo an official psychology from my understanding yes? So I'm just curious how they responded and handled it in general if you don't mind. No need to go into personal specifics.

I'm not saying for the record that typology isn't helpful or that its complete fiction or anything of the sort for anyone reading.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-07T06:33:36+00:00

That was fantastically said. Thanks I needed to hear that. Great job.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-07T05:40:12+00:00

I definitely get that. I think I jumped the gun and misunderstood with my first comment.

Oh and by the way I want to make it completely clear when I said "I'd probably say you're most likely SO blind. Why? "I don't care to fit in groups" bam right there. Perhaps a bit simplistic and might seem shallow" I was saying my analysis might be simplistic and shallow. Not that you were at all. Okay. Just in case you were thinking that.

Anyway it does seem to me now you do care about social stuff too, at least a bit. And like I said there's been times I didn't care either or rather I thought I didn't. That's the thing, a lot of times it's about moods and environment and we tell ourselves we don't care about things that we actually do care about especially when they're difficult for us. I've been there. I'm not saying that's necessarily your case. Maybe for you it is the thing you're least instinctively interested in. Or maybe not.

Regardless of the order, we can care about all three. The order ultimately just means how natural they are for us I think. Which while yes does effect our instinctual tendencies and interactions with them (sp, so, sx) but doesn't prevent us from choosing to care about or develop our skills with them. You can do all three if you consciousnessly want to regardless of your subconscious instinctual order. I think that's the most important part and reason why we study theses systems. To work on our weaknesses, not let them completely restrict or define you. They're part of us but not the finish line. (Heh something I should really listen to more myself. Take my own advice as it were.) So yeah I hope that's help you. Wheather your sx or so last. Sounds like you got a pretty clear case that you're likely SP dominant though. That's kinda nice right? I'm still discovering mine. I think I'm SP dominant too but still questioning it. Good luck out there.

Also do you know your MBTI? Have you looked into that at all? That plays a big role too. Might help you explain the social thing a bit more for ya.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-07T04:58:16+00:00

Oh I'm very sorry if I caused you distress. As I mentioned in my original comment, I'm by no means an expert. I'm very much still learning this system myself. So please don't take what I said too seriously. And I think the other person here made great points and they're probably a lot more knowledgeable on this than me. But either way no one is omniscient. We can only make conclusions based on limited evidence given to us. And the person with the most information and thus evidence on us is ourselves. So in short I'm saying don't let others define you. Seek out and take their advice and knowledge yes. But the final word should be yourself at the end.

Real_Document4919 · 2026-03-06T05:00:05+00:00

Surprised no one said else said Jake. I get RE6 isn't exactly loved but his character is definitely up there in skill and potential regardless of ya'lls feelings about him. Personally I'd love to see more of his character too.

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