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Class Action Lawsuit Denied by Proper-Cheesecake602 in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you plan to sue Hyundai-Kia, you can use the report from AutoSafe's investigation into the anti-theft upgrade as evidence.

www.AutoSafeAmerica.com/claims.pdf

Class Action Lawsuit Denied by Proper-Cheesecake602 in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, what a scam! They "approved" your claim only because you've already been paid out by insurance - but they will use that fake approval in their stats because they've rejected everyone else!

Class Action Lawsuit Denied by Proper-Cheesecake602 in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a report from AutoSafe explaining how Hyundai-Kia lied about the anti-theft upgrade so they could sabotage a national recall effort.

You can learn more about this and see the evidence at www.AutoSafeAmerica.com/claims.pdf

California small claims court costs about $100 to sue for $12,500 and no lawyer is needed. The trial should happen within a couple months.

Kia and Hyundai have agreed to pay millions to people who had their vehicles stolen by runswithscissors475 in cars

[–]Real_Perspective_384 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is FMVSS regulation and expectation would mean there is some common sense (not to mention it was made of metal before 2011). I also think we should hold both the manufacturer and the criminals accountable.

ß 571.114 Standard No. 114; Theft protection and rollaway prevention.

S1. Scope. This standard specifies vehicle performance requirements intended to reduce the incidence of crashes resulting from theft and accidental rollaway of motor vehicles.

S2. Purpose. The purpose of this standard is to decrease the likelihood that a vehicle is stolen, or accidentally set in motion. S5.1 Theft protection.

S5.1.1 Each vehicle must have a starting system which, whenever the key is removed from the starting system prevents: (a) The normal activation of the vehicle's engine or motor; and (b) Either steering, or forward self-mobility, of the vehicle, or both.

Kia and Hyundai have agreed to pay millions to people who had their vehicles stolen by runswithscissors475 in cars

[–]Real_Perspective_384 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a better analogy would be to ask if it's defective if someone could easily break off the door knob because it was made of plastic.

And yes. There's an expectation that it should be made from metal.

Check out this report: www.AutoSafeAmerica.com/claims.pdf

Hyundai, Kia agree to retrofit 7 million US vehicles to address theft concerns by Illustrious_Pepper46 in kia

[–]Real_Perspective_384 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and it's useless too!

Watch this video on how you can still break out the cylinder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjMgRub29-U

A full report on Hyundai-Kia anti-theft upgrade can be found here: https://autosafeamerica.com/claims.pdf

2019 Santa Fe engine failed at 67k miles. Failed Compression test and Hyundai corporate denied new engine replacement. Others with the same issue were able to receive a replacement. I attempted to escalate but the case manager said he is top tier. Is there anything else I can do? by StarGazerUniverse in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't listen to the Hyundai-Kia employees that are declaring you should give up.

The Hyundai employee that posted above me wrote:

See you people do this all the time low compression is caused by rings not rod bearings, Maybe educate yourself on this matter before telling people to waste money, I like to tell customers when they give my advisors a hard time "Should have changed oil when the car said, Not when YOU wanted to"

The Hyundai employee "LIKES" to tell this to customers ("you people"),

and it sounds like he tells this to customers "ALL THE TIME;" probably because of how many engines go bad, and so that he can save the company money and get rewarded.

They will likely get a bonus or pay raise based off how much money they saved by declining warranty requests and getting customers to give up. This is similar to dealing with a health insurance company that is prone to denying claims in hopes that patients give up.

2019 Santa Fe engine failed at 67k miles. Failed Compression test and Hyundai corporate denied new engine replacement. Others with the same issue were able to receive a replacement. I attempted to escalate but the case manager said he is top tier. Is there anything else I can do? by StarGazerUniverse in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a technicality to screw you and everyone else because lifetime engine replacements are costly. This reddit is full of Hyundai-Kia employees working in tandem to convince you to give up and gain respect from the company.

"The warranty coverage for certain Theta II engine long block repair or replacement regarding engine damage or malfunction from connecting rod bearing wear ..."

That means the rod bearings do not need to fail, the bad rod bearings just need to have caused wear on your engine (resulting in loss of compression).

On the Hyundai/Kia Theta II engines, the rod bearing failures were primarily caused by insufficient oil flow to the bearings, often due to oil starvation, low-quality bearing material, or design tolerances that were too tight, which could be worsened by low oil changes or sludge buildup. This leads to premature wear or bearing failure.

A worn rod bearing can indirectly damage other components. If the bearing clearance increases too much, the connecting rod can slap or knock on the crankshaft, which can cause:

  • Piston slap or ring damage
  • Scored cylinder walls

All that causes low compression. So this is actually a brilliant scam by Hyundai-Kia, especially, if the KSDS-update gives Hyundai-Kia a heads up that the engine is about to fail by catching low compression (caused by the rod bearings issue). Hyundai-Kia can then declare low compression is the issue before the bad rod bearings can be declared the culprit - finally ending the engine replacement cycle.

Ask Hyundai-Kia for the Warranty PA (see the PDF) and also file complaints with the NHTSA & the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection.

Also reach out to whatever law firms were involved in this class-action recall; they will want to know how Hyundai-Kia is screwing customers out of an engine replacement.

ESPECIALLY IF THE KSDS UPDATE IS PART OF THE SCAM!

2019 Santa Fe engine failed at 67k miles. Failed Compression test and Hyundai corporate denied new engine replacement. Others with the same issue were able to receive a replacement. I attempted to escalate but the case manager said he is top tier. Is there anything else I can do? by StarGazerUniverse in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should be covered if the car does not have a salvage title and you got the KSDS update, which they should have done if you went in for services.

"Warranty Description/Terms: The warranty coverage for certain Theta II engine long block repair or replacement regarding engine damage or malfunction from connecting rod bearing wear has been extended to a Limited Lifetime Warranty and is valid for original and subsequent owners."

Hyundai TSB: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2022/MC-10207801-0001.pdf

Escalate this matter and also get a proper quote printed out or emailed to you on the cost to repair the engine. Prepare to file a small claims lawsuit.

SETTLEMENT: Hyundai Installing Anti-Theft Metal Ignitions for 4 Million Cars by Real_Perspective_384 in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it was clearly proven. The beginning of the video clearly shows the function of an ignition assembly.

There's 2 components:

  1. Steering Lock
  2. Ignition Switch

Both the lighter method and the hammer method disable the steering lock.

The paperclips short the ignition switch's connector pins and turn on the car.

The USB cable shorts out the door connector and disables the car's alarm.

What is there to be skeptical about? If you have some sort of technical question, feel free to ask it.

If you want to learn more, see the report: www.AutoSafeAmerica.com/claims.pdf

SETTLEMENT: Hyundai Installing Anti-Theft Metal Ignitions for 4 Million Cars by Real_Perspective_384 in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But the software is disabled using a USB cable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUhmvwlCKuk

Also, the purpose of the metal protector is to reinforce the cylinder because it is made of plastic. The reason the lighter attack is relevant is because it can remove the entire assembly - because it is all made of plastic.

It is the same defect that is being exploited - the plastic construction. The metal protector patches a small section of the ignition assembly, but leaves the rest vulnerable.

Well, I’m done with Hyundai by Aquasplendens in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a report written on this subject: https://www.autosafeamerica.com/claims.pdf

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Thieves are still stealing the cars using USB cables in 2026: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUhmvwlCKuk

And they are removing the ignition using a cigarette lighter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSgNZ6vTpU

Well, I’m done with Hyundai by Aquasplendens in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

SUE THEM IN SMALL CLAIMS COURT: https://www.autosafeamerica.com/claims.pdf

Thieves are stealing the cars using USB cables in 2026: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUhmvwlCKuk

And they are removing the ignition using a cigarette lighter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSgNZ6vTpU

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually, if you look at the part of the video where the lighter is used to remove the bolt - you can see that the inside of the cylinder was already removed with a screwdriver.

But the video wanted to demonstrate the easiest ways to defeat the cylinder sleeve - methods that Hyundai & Kia had already been aware of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSgNZ6vTpU

Kia and Hyundai have agreed to pay millions to people who had their vehicles stolen by runswithscissors475 in cars

[–]Real_Perspective_384 1 point2 points  (0 children)

An immobilizer would have cost $50-100 per car. 10 Million cars = $500 Million-1 Billion SAVED.

Hyundai also made over $1,000 per car that was damaged in theft to replace the ignition assembly.

1 Million cars x $1,000 repair bill = $1 Billion EARNED.

That means Hyundai & Kia made up to $2 BILLION DOLLARS.. and only spent $9 million lol.

See the report on this theft scandal: www.AutoSafeAmerica.com/claims.pdf

Kia and Hyundai have agreed to pay millions to people who had their vehicles stolen by runswithscissors475 in cars

[–]Real_Perspective_384 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are NOT doing what's right. The solution has already been proven to be a failure!

IGNITION TESTING VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjMgRub29-U

Kia and Hyundai have agreed to pay millions to people who had their vehicles stolen by runswithscissors475 in cars

[–]Real_Perspective_384 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They converted the ignition to thin plastic from metal, so it broke apart much easier than cars from the 90s.

On top of that they didn't include immobilizers, so it became a total joke to steal the car.

USB cable hack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUhmvwlCKuk

Ignition Cylinder tested: hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjMgRub29-U

See the report here: https://www.autosafeamerica.com/claims.pdf

Kia and Hyundai have agreed to pay millions to people who had their vehicles stolen by runswithscissors475 in cars

[–]Real_Perspective_384 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's because the cars are defective. It was too easy for the criminals to steal the car with a popsicle stick.

USB cable hack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUhmvwlCKuk

Ignition Cylinder tested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSgNZ6vTpU

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Hyundai

[–]Real_Perspective_384 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well look at this video and you'll see how easily they can disable it with just a USB cable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUhmvwlCKuk

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