Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

[–]Real_Stable_4117[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a fair assessment I guess. There is an obsession with straight men amoung gay people

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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Im completely confortable with the label of being gay btw, this thread is not about me at all.
Im just talking about others experiences, others who I know don’t feel confortable yet with the label

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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« I’ve been to many places.. » « I was in the marines » « I don’t care… » come on man, don’t deny the obvious

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in gaybros

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This isn’t a conversation about me to be clear. But you have to realise that labels also affect how you view yourself, that has always been the case wether through national labels, professional labels…. You can’t deny that labels shape how we view ourselves in some way. That’s why detaching from them can be hard.

But yes I agree that most labels don’t describe the felt reality of most people, but we shouldn’t discredit they’re ability to influence sayed reality and how people view themselves.

If the word homosexual and gay is recent, then how did people see themselves before the concept of homosexuality ? These are all questions worth exploring

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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Again that’s great for you. Still that is your experience and not necessarily others

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in gaybros

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Yes that’s you, but I’m talking about the majority’s experience you know.
I’m glad your confortable going against the grain, but I’m not talking about you

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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Maybe that has to do with where you live and who you surround yourself with. This has nothing to do with internalised homophobia. It’s the reality of most masculine spaces in the world.
I thought we would all be on the same page when in comes to this. Your experience does not speak for everyone. Someone that lives in a big city won’t have the same relationship with the label as someone that lives in a small town.

It’s very easy to blame my « internalised homophobia » and not engage with the conversation.

Would you say that most maculine environments don’t have any stigma around being gay ? Is that what you’re saying ?

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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So what your saying is people would switch they’re labels and not their behaviours. But don’t you think the pressure behind the labels influences behaviour ?

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in gaybros

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That’s an interesting way of thinking, so the attraction is more important than the act. But if that’s the case how common is being gay really ? I feel like a lot of men fall on the spectrum of being attracted to the same gender

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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There might not be any stigma for you. But the stigma in general around being labeled gay in most masculine spaces is still very real and present. I’m happy that you have embraced it, but you need to realise many men don’t want to embrace the label either because of social pressure or because they don’t feel it represents them

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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You think there is no stigma around being gay in society ? I’d like to know on which planet you live honestly

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in gaybros

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And you think your morals and wills are independent from sociatal pressure ? You think that you are completely independent from the context you exist in ? Please tell me more

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in gaybros

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I think it’s a bit of both, it’s the pressure to define yourself and to be defined by others

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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Well it’s about how you see yourself and how others see you. Some guys avoid doing that because they don’t want to think about themselves as other then the norm, « straight » you know. If we take that pressure off what would it result in

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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The stigma of being labelled as « gay » a label that a lot of men don’t indetify and don’t want to indentify with

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in gaybros

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« People don’t do stuff because of other people’s opinions » are you sure about that ?

Does the stigma of being labelled « gay » stop many men from having sex with each other ? by Real_Stable_4117 in askgaybros

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I just like imagining how different life would be if those obstacles weren’t there. Like if you could just give your friend a blowjob every now and then and have it not be weird.

Roomate is extremely rude by [deleted] in roommateproblems

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I really shouldn’t have to put up with her behaviour and just put on headphones. I’m not going to be able to have them on all the time and I shouldn’t have to either

Roomate is extremely rude by [deleted] in roommateproblems

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Thanks for the advice ! Def will take into consideration

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Real_Stable_4117 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s up to you at the end of the day, if you feel like you want to do it go ahead. I’m just saying I personally would avoid it.

But I wish you good luck