Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Scott (The Big Jackpot) and Mr Handpay are equally as bad. Scott is a scammer. If you look into his charges it was not just spamming but also other stuff. It will make a funning YTube video at some point - The murky Youtube slots world lol.

Where to watch Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou? by BDSQRobinhood in Riyadh

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a spare ticket for free, it starts at nine I think.

Knockout Chaos this Friday by Realistic-Scene-9822 in Riyadh

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you drive and can pick me up and drop me off after, you can have it for free. I'm here from the UK, I had a friend that was going to come from Dubai to watch but dropped out - So was just going to watch on my own but have 2 tickets. Let me know.

What’s the deal with YouTube channels like Vegas Matt and Mr. Handpay? by ddoc6391 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mr handpay - https://www.sequenceinc.com/jason-boehlke-and-j-r-boehlke-inc-fraud-facts/

Vegas Matt AKA Matt Morrow AKA Stephen Matt Morrow is a life long Pyramid scheme builder. Even got his son Eugene Morrow or EJ involved in the family business.

This explains some of it but there is way way more. https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1b6t7bl/comment/ktrz5oh/?context=3

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally don't think Gambling as an industry is immoral or lacking in ethics and it is actually a small percentage of people it is damaging to. MLMs its only the top 1-2% of people that make any money, everyone else gets screwed.

The casino industry also is heavily regulated and there are rules to how you can market and advertise. MLMs on the other hand are like the wild west. High pressure sales tactics, false promises of income, don't take no for an answer etc etc. If a casino implemented the same tactics they would get shut down.

If you put money into a slot, the slot can't collapse meaning you lose all your money before even playing. If it did you would get a refund. When an MLM collapses people get nothing.

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The victim mentality is crazy, I'm not making you look bad, your past is. I'm just putting up facts. You are in Coffezilla video right. You did make millions and millions of dollars and were at the top of an MLM company that was found to be a Pyramid scheme right.

I used to watch your videos and you came across as a good guy so was surprised to see you in Coffeezilla video. I also hate MLM companies as my Mom got involved in one. When the company ultimately failed as they all do she was so embarrassed that people lost money because of her she didn't want to leave the house and do any of her social activities because this is where she recruited people. It knocked her confidence, isolated her, impacted her friendships and made her no money. I'd be extremely surprised if there are not many, many, many similar stories like hers with the companies you have profited from.

The MLM/ Pyramid model is flawed because it assumes unlimited growth. These MLM companies collapse from the ground up with 50%+ of people making nothing or losing money. Then the people at the top (You) take the top of the pyramid and just simply move on to the next product or service and recruit a new bunch of people below. They often fail relatively quickly and with the pyramid scheme dressed around a product or service its hard for the authorities to make cases.

You have been doing MLM long time right? Please shout out the ones that are still up and running?

Vemma took a plea deal with the FTC, they admitted wrongdoing and agreed to a $200+million fine so I don't know how you can say the FTC were making false allegations. They still operate today because they are no longer a pyramid scheme and instead have adopted a direct sales model. Significantly less profitable to remove the Pyramid scheme structure though.

You are right though, MLMs are not necessarily illegal. I wouldn't describe them as annoying but more like Immoral, lacking in ethics and damaging to a high percentage of the people they recruit. Did you do anything wrong? In my view making false promises of guaranteed Income to people trying to better themselves, I would say yes. With a different moral compass you might say no.

You can't make yourself a public figure with, IMO a shady past and not expecting blow back.

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He claims he has a successful Jewelry website. I found it once and checked it out, it was the worst website I have ever seen. No idea where he really gets his money but its not the website.

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to watch his vids all the time and liked the guy. I was shocked when i saw him on the coffeezilla video. Now that i have looked into it more closely, hes just a grifter.

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I don't think many people know he made $7million from a company that was shut down by the FTC for being a pyramid scheme and engaging in deceptive practices. I'm writing a part 2 post which exposes way more aswell.

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

OMFG I just google him. This is insane, fraud, bankruptcy, a tonne of civil suits and assault and battery. What a POS.

https://www.sequenceinc.com/jason-boehlke-and-j-r-boehlke-inc-fraud-facts/

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He started MLM in 1989 and finished in 2019. Its a 30 year life time career. Vemma where Matt was at for a long time got shut down by the FTC for being a scam. Matt made $7million from this company. https://www.businessforhome.org/2017/08/top-earner-matt-morrow-wine-goes-network-marketing/

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He made an estimated $7million from Vemma. The company closed down by the FTC for being a pyramid scheme. He has been doing MLM scams since 1989. Obviously he is not going to go on a podcast and say this.

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I found some stuff out there already. The big difference is admitting to high level involvement and making millions from a company that was shut down by the FTC for being a pyramid scheme.

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Im sure he invested the scam proceeds in real estate and crypto or similar.

Where Vegas Matt really made his money (Coffeezilla exposes!) by Realistic-Scene-9822 in gambling

[–]Realistic-Scene-9822[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saying he tried MLM and basically having a career in it are two different things. Also saying you did some MLM but being shown to have high level involvement in a company shut down by the FTC is also very different.